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Selling wsop %'s, yup in January!!!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭SpencerJames


    I think the abuse here is unwarranted. I find that people have a strange perception of buying %. Its a two way thing in my opinion. This guy is not looking for charity, rather looking to do you a favor by selling you a piece of his action in Vegas. You in return are doing him a favor by helping him play the tournament better bankrolled.

    All too often people think that buying % is doing the person the buy off a serious favor, a sort of "you owe me one bud" thing. This is not the case. So if you don't like the look of this business deal for whatever reason then thats fine, don't take it!

    However, that being said. I think it is very naive of the op to come on here with an unclear reputation and no real stats and expect to receive a warm and serious reception. But it is nothing more than naive.

    I personally don't know the guy or have never to my knowledge played with him but it seems to me that he has just got a bout of the fear and is worried about bankroll issues. He has coming on here in an attempt to put structure to his game. I don't think he thought this through very well or that his new found attitude to bankroll will last but he has done nothing wrong.

    Also, I think alot of what Flipper has said is valid. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to package any of what he says with charm or compassion. Which is a shame cause he does make alot of good points and shouldn't be dismissed so easily. There does seem to be a lot of geographical bashing on here from the south. You don't see that in Dublin or Galway where the players really encourage eachother. Just look at the Eglington celebrating and throwing a party everytime some takes down the 50 freezeout! Flipper didn't mean poker teams as in to be put into a competition, he meant groups of like minded players that help eachother out and travel together like a team. Doesn't seem to happen with the southern guys from what I can see. Not necessarily a bad thing, the single mindedness and egotism of alot of southern players is definitely a strength in some cases. Unfortunately that chip on the shoulder mentality isn't always met with open arms from people.

    Anyway, what I'm trying to say is give the guy a break. He isn't looking for charity, rather a business proposal. Take it or leave it, no need to keep beating him up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭roleynoley


    I think the abuse here is unwarranted. I find that people have a strange perception of buying %. Its a two way thing in my opinion. This guy is not looking for charity, rather looking to do you a favor by selling you a piece of his action in Vegas. You in return are doing him a favor by helping him play the tournament better bankrolled.

    All too often people think that buying % is doing the person the buy off a serious favor, a sort of "you owe me one bud" thing. This is not the case. So if you don't like the look of this business deal for whatever reason then thats fine, don't take it!

    However, that being said. I think it is very naive of the op to come on here with an unclear reputation and no real stats and expect to receive a warm and serious reception. But it is nothing more than naive.

    I personally don't know the guy or have never to my knowledge played with him but it seems to me that he has just got a bout of the fear and is worried about bankroll issues. He has coming on here in an attempt to put structure to his game. I don't think he thought this through very well or that his new found attitude to bankroll will last but he has done nothing wrong.

    Also, I think alot of what Flipper has said is valid. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to package any of what he says with charm or compassion. Which is a shame cause he does make alot of good points and shouldn't be dismissed so easily. There does seem to be a lot of geographical bashing on here from the south. You don't see that in Dublin or Galway where the players really encourage eachother. Just look at the Eglington celebrating and throwing a party everytime some takes down the 50 freezeout! Flipper didn't mean poker teams as in to be put into a competition, he meant groups of like minded players that help eachother out and travel together like a team. Doesn't seem to happen with the southern guys from what I can see. Not necessarily a bad thing, the single mindedness and egotism of alot of southern players is definitely a strength in some cases. Unfortunately that chip on the shoulder mentality isn't always met with open arms from people.

    Anyway, what I'm trying to say is give the guy a break. He isn't looking for charity, rather a business proposal. Take it or leave it, no need to keep beating him up.
    Never a truer word spoken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭roleynoley


    roleynoley wrote: »
    This is bad form and now hes banned,hope youre happy!!Disappointed in you and you know me ill be saying this to you face to face too!He trusted you and you STAB,never thought you were like that:mad:
    Edit!!Discussed this with 1 of my friends and to be fair he made the point that if positions were reversed said guy would do the same to you!!So I would like to retract above statement,apologise and not post on this thread again unless asked


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭SpencerJames


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    All of this would make sense if this was May, and the person making the offer hadn't posted publicly here last Summer about being a busto degenerate mess in Vegas during WSOP time. Anyone who picked up on his posts last summer has to be thinking there is a decent >0% chance that money provided to him now, will be used for gambling purposes now. Or that, in the event he does make it over there to play tournaments this summer, he will disintegrate within a couple of days / piss it away / gamble it away / get robbed / who the **** knows.

    Could not invest in the man concerned imo. Don't care how good a player he is when he's sober, focused, not on tilt, blah, blah...God this forum sucks. :rolleyes:

    hmm, didn't know the severity of his reputation Lloyd. still though, you and I won't be investing and the warnings are out there. I think thats sufficient enough and that he should be free from attack now. He hasn't done anything wrong though??

    People should be free to make up their own minds in my opinion Lloyd. If they got stung from this with all the relevant info on show then i have as little sympathy for them as I do for the degenerate scamming them. Basically I feel we should stop flogging a dead horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭thenutpeddler


    All too often people think that buying % is doing the person the buy off a serious favor, a sort of "you owe me one bud" thing. This is not the case. So if you don't like the look of this business deal for whatever reason then thats fine, don't take it!
    (bit derailed)
    Totally agree with this. I sold some of myself for the winter fest and then won the super Sat. After I didn't cash in the event i hear a couple of guys that I sold to are moaning that I didn't offer to buy their % back. I would consider it a bit rude to offer to buy back % after already agreeing to business deal. Would they be moaning if I scooped?

    Some people don't understand the concept of buying %

    Regarding Michael, i've put in some table time with him and he definitely has an edge. Nice guy too. Maybe his degenerate summer thought him some valuable lessons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    hmm, didn't know the severity of his reputation Lloyd. still though, you and I won't be investing and the warnings are out there. I think thats sufficient enough and that he should be free from attack now. He hasn't done anything wrong though??

    People should be free to make up their own minds in my opinion Lloyd. If they got stung from this with all the relevant info on show then i have as little sympathy for them as I do for the degenerate scamming them. Basically I feel we should stop flogging a dead horse.

    they are only free to make up their minds because people have posted with all of the relevant information and opinions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Flipper


    On Douglas' offer: As I've said before, I've no beef with Michael. It fact I think he's a plesant guy who's got some bad "press" but has ultimately been the master of his own distruction on this forum. With regard to his offer, I think coming on here in the first week in January is his first mistake. To me, the first thing I think of is that you've a new years resolution to manage money better etc etc but that takes a lot more than turning the page of a calender. As for what SpencerJames said, I think it's acceptable for the old regs to chime in and make newbies who might be interested in buying percentages aware of Douglas' past on this forum. I think Lloyd has the right idea here.

    On the Cork thing: I don't want this to derail Douglas' original post but I do feel that the matter deserves addressing. I'm personally embarrassed by the actions of some people on here and while some of the insults are directed towards me, they are inadvertently affecting the growth of poker in Cork by restricting up and coming Cork players from getting the same benefits I got from Boards.ie when I was learning. Back in 2006, I started to fall in with several of the poker crew in Dublin and they have all had a huge positive effect on my game. If I had looked for this "teamwork" in Cork, I would have struggled to find it. The sadest thing is that the two main culprits of this are men > 40 years of age. If anything can be done to repair the damage already done to our name is that these two (who offer nothing back to the forum) should be banned with immediate effect.

    There are several factors that have made Cork the laughing stock of the Irish Poker Community. The Macau Sporting Clubs involvment on the forums was for me, the single biggest contributor to the degeneration of cork poker and this was not directly their own fault. It was the fault of 5 posters (I may be forgetting one) who kept on needling Ken and they was only so much he could take. I personally think it's wrong for the Macau to be banned from the forum and would also like to see this matter sorted as it is only curtailing the growth of poker in Cork. After all, they are the reason poker exploded in Cork back in 2005 and many of us owe them a debt.

    These views are my own and not necessarily those of anyone else that might appear to be in my camp. I want what everyone else wants - to rid the forum of the parasites that are causing this aggravation and to see the game grow exponentially county and country-wide.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 knucks213


    I have bitin my tongue for long enough on this subject and i finallly have to make my 1 and ONLY post on it....as from my screen name im sure the majority of you crk boardies will know who i am...i completley agree with flipper on his comments on the macau and i think as cork poker players we badly need to see the reintroduction of the Macau on boards...all ovr the country fields are down and we sud be trying to attract poker players (fish) :D from all ovr Ireland and the UK and all a small number of crk boardies want to do is make a holy fckn show of the county....i personally have good time for all the crk posters here but a lot of theses guys dont travel to tournaments and have to hear the about how much they are embarresing the crk poker community as a whole.....please please people for the good of crk poker just fckn drop it......theres two casinos...DEAL WITH IT....people dont like each otr....DEAL WITH IT....stop making it into a crk thing....and as for Mr Douglas....i will have 1% please and fully expect u to give me a return on that cuz u r a solid player who thinks in a very deep way bout the games...best of luck at the felt y'all :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭kakak1


    Flipper wrote: »
    On Douglas' offer: As I've said before, I've no beef with Michael. It fact I think he's a plesant guy who's got some bad "press" but has ultimately been the master of his own distruction on this forum. With regard to his offer, I think coming on here in the first week in January is his first mistake. To me, the first thing I think of is that you've a new years resolution to manage money better etc etc but that takes a lot more than turning the page of a calender. As for what SpencerJames said, I think it's acceptable for the old regs to chime in and make newbies who might be interested in buying percentages aware of Douglas' past on this forum. I think Lloyd has the right idea here.

    On the Cork thing: I don't want this to derail Douglas' original post but I do feel that the matter deserves addressing. I'm personally embarrassed by the actions of some people on here and while some of the insults are directed towards me, they are inadvertently affecting the growth of poker in Cork by restricting up and coming Cork players from getting the same benefits I got from Boards.ie when I was learning. Back in 2006, I started to fall in with several of the poker crew in Dublin and they have all had a huge positive effect on my game. If I had looked for this "teamwork" in Cork, I would have struggled to find it. The sadest thing is that the two main culprits of this are men > 40 years of age. If anything can be done to repair the damage already done to our name is that these two (who offer nothing back to the forum) should be banned with immediate effect.

    There are several factors that have made Cork the laughing stock of the Irish Poker Community. The Macau Sporting Clubs involvment on the forums was for me, the single biggest contributor to the degeneration of cork poker and this was not directly their own fault. It was the fault of 5 posters (I may be forgetting one) who kept on needling Ken and they was only so much he could take. I personally think it's wrong for the Macau to be banned from the forum and would also like to see this matter sorted as it is only curtailing the growth of poker in Cork. After all, they are the reason poker exploded in Cork back in 2005 and many of us owe them a debt.

    These views are my own and not necessarily those of anyone else that might appear to be in my camp. I want what everyone else wants - to rid the forum of the parasites that are causing this aggravation and to see the game grow exponentially county and country-wide.


    Very good post Kieran. I'd have to agree with you on an awful lot that you said here & it is a shame that it is affecting poker in Cork & more importantly the growth of the game. I for one was very dissappointed with the turnout at the Macau Christmas festival which was once the best game in the country.

    With the reduced entry fee this year from €1000 + €100 to €500 + €50 numbers should have increased rather than decreased (admittedly the clash with the Fitzwilliam didn't help matters but they also clashed last year).

    A major contributing factor in this was the ban on the Macau posting on this site, the reasons are well documented and I have to say, even though I have always supported the Macau for tournaments & with posts on this site, questions do need to be answered by them to some very serious allegations.

    Nevertheless were they to overcome these difficulties I still think there would be major problems everytime they post here due to the bitterness of some "ex members" who just do not seem to be able to move on. Didn't a famous Cork man say very recently about a different matter "forget it, just move on".

    I know if my custom is not wanted in a business I'm not interested in dealing with them anyway.

    Cork didn't earn the nickname "the rebel county" for nothing. Shame really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Flipper wrote: »
    I personally think it's wrong for the Macau to be banned from the forum and would also like to see this matter sorted as it is only curtailing the growth of poker in Cork.
    Just on this.

    The Macau are banned for 2 reasons, firstly and primarily, they refused to answer reasonable questions about their tournaments. Every single Casino and Operator who uses boards (basically everyone in the country) has to abide by this golden rule, they refused to answer reasonable questions and so are rightfully banned. The second reason they are banned is they created a new account to circumvent this ban, and that is a boardswide rule and are site banned by the admins.

    There's no point in complaining on here about them being banned, everyone has to play by the same rules and they are no different. But because of their actions, our hands are tied.

    And on that note, that ends discussion about The Macau in this thread. If anyone wants their ban lifted or wish to complain about the decision or this post, take it up in Helpdesk or Feedback, but NOT in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭thedini


    damn you Ste05, too quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Sirtoyou


    One thing I'll say for Michael Douglas is that because he has been on boards so long and around the poker scene so long that people forget that he is still a kid.I believe he is still only 21 and hence last year was his first time in vegas though he was probably rolled for it several times since at least the age of 15.He is a nice guy and a good player and I'd doubt if he would have it in him to wrong anyone.I think people of that age have to be allowed leeway for immaturity in their past dealings with forums etc.I remember Hawkeye's vegas experience could have gone similar barring a big cash or Cardshark was certainly in a similar situation yet if they posted selling %s their hands would be bitten off and rightly so.All I'm saying is this kid certainly deserves a chance on ability no doubt maturity and wisdom will follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Sirtoyou


    Flipper wrote: »
    On Douglas' offer: As I've said before, I've no beef with Michael. It fact I think he's a plesant guy who's got some bad "press" but has ultimately been the master of his own distruction on this forum. With regard to his offer, I think coming on here in the first week in January is his first mistake. To me, the first thing I think of is that you've a new years resolution to manage money better etc etc but that takes a lot more than turning the page of a calender. As for what SpencerJames said, I think it's acceptable for the old regs to chime in and make newbies who might be interested in buying percentages aware of Douglas' past on this forum. I think Lloyd has the right idea here.

    On the Cork thing: I don't want this to derail Douglas' original post but I do feel that the matter deserves addressing. I'm personally embarrassed by the actions of some people on here and while some of the insults are directed towards me, they are inadvertently affecting the growth of poker in Cork by restricting up and coming Cork players from getting the same benefits I got from Boards.ie when I was learning. Back in 2006, I started to fall in with several of the poker crew in Dublin and they have all had a huge positive effect on my game. If I had looked for this "teamwork" in Cork, I would have struggled to find it. The sadest thing is that the two main culprits of this are men > 40 years of age. If anything can be done to repair the damage already done to our name is that these two (who offer nothing back to the forum) should be banned with immediate effect.

    There are several factors that have made Cork the laughing stock of the Irish Poker Community. The Macau Sporting Clubs involvment on the forums was for me, the single biggest contributor to the degeneration of cork poker and this was not directly their own fault. It was the fault of 5 posters (I may be forgetting one) who kept on needling Ken and they was only so much he could take. I personally think it's wrong for the Macau to be banned from the forum and would also like to see this matter sorted as it is only curtailing the growth of poker in Cork. After all, they are the reason poker exploded in Cork back in 2005 and many of us owe them a debt.

    These views are my own and not necessarily those of anyone else that might appear to be in my camp. I want what everyone else wants - to rid the forum of the parasites that are causing this aggravation and to see the game grow exponentially county and country-wide.

    Great post Flipper.I've said very similar for a long time especially on board's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    Sirtoyou wrote: »
    .I remember Hawkeye's vegas experience could have gone similar barring a big cash or Cardshark was certainly in a similar situation yet if they posted selling %s their hands would be bitten off and rightly so.All I'm saying is this kid certainly deserves a chance on ability no doubt maturity and wisdom will follow.

    I don't recall Hawkeye or Cardshark ever coming on here insulting people left, right, and centre. If DBC had the ability of Phil Ivey he would still be told where to go if he came on here asking for a stake. Nobody in this world deserves a chance merely on ability in any field imo, their attitude, judgement, and respect for others are paramount in the decision of any reasonable person to give them the time of day.

    Dougee may well be a very nice guy, in fact given the testimonials I'm inclined to think he probably is. But he has no credibility on this forum. That can happen. I've seen people of his age act like fools online but be very nice guys in real life. That's partly down to immaturity and partly due to not appreciating that communicating via this medium is an extension of the self for the overwhelming majority of people and not a computer game where you create a villainous character for fun.

    Everyone is free to create a character and take the p1ss if they wish, but the problem comes in attempting to oscillate between that character and your real self. You will have zero credibility and will reacted to exactly as Dougee has.

    Us non-Cork people don't know Dougee the real guy, we know the annoying, immature character who purposely trolled here and likes to call us muppets. Hence Cork people who know him and us boardsies who don't are not disagreeing about the nature of a single identity, we are each reacting appropriately to a different one. It was his choice to cultivate that schism through not being authentic.

    Having said that, the list of people from Cork who have come on here defending him reads like a list of the worst posters this forum has ever seen. That there are multiple accounts from the same people makes a lot of sense, because some of my favourite people on this earth are from Cork and yet a good proportion of the Cork posters on here have been genuinely LOL.

    Hopefully this last line sums it up well - Michael I wish you all the best in Vegas and hope you do well and enjoy it, Dougee19 go **** yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭roleynoley


    Btw,Ill take 1% too Dougee.Because at the end of the day this is YOUR thread.As regards the cork thing,ive either pm'd you,spoken to you or texted you.Ye all know my proposal to put cork on the poker map for the RIGHT reasons.Im not going to say what ive asked of ye all on a public forum but all Ill say in the words of a famous man is,"YES WE CAN!!!!":)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭gorfield


    roleynoley wrote: »
    Btw,Ill take 1% too Dougee.Because at the end of the day this is YOUR thread.As regards the cork thing,ive either pm'd you,spoken to you or texted you.Ye all know my proposal to put cork on the poker map for the RIGHT reasons.Im not going to say what ive asked of ye all on a public forum but all Ill say in the words of a famous man is,"YES WE CAN!!!!":)

    If you need any input let me know noel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭roleynoley


    hotspur wrote: »
    I don't recall Hawkeye or Cardshark ever coming on here insulting people left, right, and centre. If DBC had the ability of Phil Ivey he would still be told where to go if he came on here asking for a stake. Nobody in this world deserves a chance merely on ability in any field imo, their attitude, judgement, and respect for others are paramount in the decision of any reasonable person to give them the time of day.

    Dougee may well be a very nice guy, in fact given the testimonials I'm inclined to think he probably is. But he has no credibility on this forum. That can happen. I've seen people of his age act like fools online but be very nice guys in real life. That's partly down to immaturity and partly due to not appreciating that communicating via this medium is an extension of the self for the overwhelming majority of people and not a computer game where you create a villainous character for fun.

    Everyone is free to create a character and take the p1ss if they wish, but the problem comes in attempting to oscillate between that character and your real self. You will have zero credibility and will reacted to exactly as Dougee has.

    Us non-Cork people don't know Dougee the real guy, we know the annoying, immature character who purposely trolled here and likes to call us muppets. Hence Cork people who know him and us boardsies who don't are not disagreeing about the nature of a single identity, we are each reacting appropriately to a different one. It was his choice to cultivate that schism through not being authentic.

    Having said that, the list of people from Cork who have come on here defending him reads like a list of the worst posters this forum has ever seen. That there are multiple accounts from the same people makes a lot of sense, because some of my favourite people on this earth are from Cork and yet a good proportion of the Cork posters on here have been genuinely LOL.

    Hopefully this last line sums it up well - Michael I wish you all the best in Vegas and hope you do well and enjoy it, Dougee19 go **** yourself.
    I dont know you and you prob dont know me but i have to say thats 1 powerful post,makes alot of sense,kudos


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭thenutpeddler


    hotspur wrote: »
    I don't recall Hawkeye or Cardshark ever coming on here insulting people left, right, and centre. If DBC had the ability of Phil Ivey he would still be told where to go if he came on here asking for a stake. Nobody in this world deserves a chance merely on ability in any field imo, their attitude, judgement, and respect for others are paramount in the decision of any reasonable person to give them the time of day.

    Dougee may well be a very nice guy, in fact given the testimonials I'm inclined to think he probably is. But he has no credibility on this forum. That can happen. I've seen people of his age act like fools online but be very nice guys in real life. That's partly down to immaturity and partly due to not appreciating that communicating via this medium is an extension of the self for the overwhelming majority of people and not a computer game where you create a villainous character for fun.

    Everyone is free to create a character and take the p1ss if they wish, but the problem comes in attempting to oscillate between that character and your real self. You will have zero credibility and will reacted to exactly as Dougee has.

    Us non-Cork people don't know Dougee the real guy, we know the annoying, immature character who purposely trolled here and likes to call us muppets. Hence Cork people who know him and us boardsies who don't are not disagreeing about the nature of a single identity, we are each reacting appropriately to a different one. It was his choice to cultivate that schism through not being authentic.

    Having said that, the list of people from Cork who have come on here defending him reads like a list of the worst posters this forum has ever seen. That there are multiple accounts from the same people makes a lot of sense, because some of my favourite people on this earth are from Cork and yet a good proportion of the Cork posters on here have been genuinely LOL.

    Hopefully this last line sums it up well - Michael I wish you all the best in Vegas and hope you do well and enjoy it, Dougee19 go **** yourself.

    Great post.
    If i'm ever on trial for a murder, can you sum up for the jury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    roleynoley wrote: »
    I dont know you and you prob dont know me but i have to say thats 1 powerful post,makes alot of sense,kudos

    Nobody knows hotspur, he's an entity

    Re Dougee....You still never asnwered my question for 6 months ago..Means i can't take any %s
    dougee19 wrote: »
    weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I just got married
    and the first thing u did was post here?
    dougee19 wrote: »
    what else is a boy to do?!!!!
    actually first thing was to go parachuting, was only $180!!! do good man, so good!!!! also after getting comped one of them sweet suites so I am celebrating through the night lads, through the night!!!!
    lads, im gonna have consensual sex!!!!! yayyyyyyyyyyyy
    exactly what have you been having up to this point?
    Flushdraw wrote: »
    Hang on a sec, you're in Vegas, right?

    Did you just wait up this morning with an almighty hang over, looking in the mirror and you had the words "Just Married" tattooed on your head, or was it a more conventional wedding?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭a-k-47


    how did you bluff this one dougee

    Zeta_Jones_66669113_400.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    roleynoley wrote: »
    Btw,Ill take 1% too Dougee.Because at the end of the day this is YOUR thread.As regards the cork thing,ive either pm'd you,spoken to you or texted you.Ye all know my proposal to put cork on the poker map for the RIGHT reasons.Im not going to say what ive asked of ye all on a public forum but all Ill say in the words of a famous man is,"YES WE CAN!!!!":)

    Where's my text Noel?

    <snip - Macau talk removed>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Sirtoyou wrote: »
    One thing I'll say for Michael Douglas is that because he has been on boards so long and around the poker scene so long that people forget that he is still a kid.I believe he is still only 21 and hence last year was his first time in vegas though he was probably rolled for it several times since at least the age of 15.He is a nice guy and a good player and I'd doubt if he would have it in him to wrong anyone.I think people of that age have to be allowed leeway for immaturity in their past dealings with forums etc.I remember Hawkeye's vegas experience could have gone similar barring a big cash or Cardshark was certainly in a similar situation yet if they posted selling %s their hands would be bitten off and rightly so.All I'm saying is this kid certainly deserves a chance on ability no doubt maturity and wisdom will follow.

    What situation have I been in again? I'm not happy with this insinuation. If you are referring to me being an asshole to some people on the forum, fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Sirtoyou


    What situation have I been in again? I'm not happy with this insinuation. If you are referring to me being an asshole to some people on the forum, fair enough.

    No offence intended .My point was that Michael wouldn't be the first to get into a sticky situation in Vegas and certainly wont be the last.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭a-k-47


    what were u really looking for that time


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    a-k-47 wrote: »
    what were u really looking for that time
    $100 AFAIR


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Daithio9


    I'd say a $1 would have done him.
    Ah feck it dougee why you only selling such a small % I'd have expected an offering of at least 165% from a man such as yourself.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭a-k-47


    lol your all bad cnuts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 venturegambler


    most of ye need yer arses kicked. his history has been put forward. a number of people have vouched for his poker talent and trustworthiness. either take a percentage or shut up. harsh but fair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Im doing a 20euro accumulator on the soccer today, anyone wanna buy some of the bet off me at odds at 12 to1????
    Im selling 5% of the bet for 2 euro.



    Im very good at the betting, i won 760 on Arsenal,Bolton and wolves a few weeks ago and a horse i had backed came in second. My friends in paddy power can vouch for me.



    Anyone??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Im doing a 20euro accumulator on the soccer today, anyone wanna buy some of the bet off me at odds at 12 to1????
    Im selling 5% of the bet for 2 euro.

    Im very good at the betting, i won 760 on Arsenal,Bolton and wolves a few weeks ago and a horse i had backed came in second. My friends in paddy power can vouch for me.

    Anyone??

    Another terrible effort tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭dougee19


    Haven't been online due to work,

    Thanks a lot for your comments SpencerJames, really appreciate them but I do understand where LL, hotspur, set etc are coming from. I basically used and abused this forum for my own entertainment for a while and it must have been infuriating for a lot of readers.
    The only problem I ever had was when I tried to make amends or be serious there was instantly a lot of really irritating comments and I just got fed up again. Immature I know but thats what I was on here.


    There isn't actually many comments I need to reply to so I will just say thanks for above opinions good and bad and if anyone else wants to buy any %'s then post or pm me. Last year was me going over with a bankroll with no plan, I bought in to some events and with the rest I played all cash games possible while paying for hotels rooms as days go by. It was an absolutely random experience which I love doing but I want to actually have one great attempt in Vegas and after last year I am determined to do well this year.
    Seeing as I am getting a car and trying to set something up I don't want to invest all of my money so want to try and sell some %'s, thats the only reason I am on here and that is the truth


    and for the future, I will try and be better on here even though I know a lot of people will never change their opinion about me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭dougee19


    hotspur wrote: »
    I don't recall Hawkeye or Cardshark ever coming on here insulting people left, right, and centre. If DBC had the ability of Phil Ivey he would still be told where to go if he came on here asking for a stake. Nobody in this world deserves a chance merely on ability in any field imo, their attitude, judgement, and respect for others are paramount in the decision of any reasonable person to give them the time of day.

    Dougee may well be a very nice guy, in fact given the testimonials I'm inclined to think he probably is. But he has no credibility on this forum. That can happen. I've seen people of his age act like fools online but be very nice guys in real life. That's partly down to immaturity and partly due to not appreciating that communicating via this medium is an extension of the self for the overwhelming majority of people and not a computer game where you create a villainous character for fun.

    Everyone is free to create a character and take the p1ss if they wish, but the problem comes in attempting to oscillate between that character and your real self. You will have zero credibility and will reacted to exactly as Dougee has.

    Us non-Cork people don't know Dougee the real guy, we know the annoying, immature character who purposely trolled here and likes to call us muppets. Hence Cork people who know him and us boardsies who don't are not disagreeing about the nature of a single identity, we are each reacting appropriately to a different one. It was his choice to cultivate that schism through not being authentic.

    Having said that, the list of people from Cork who have come on here defending him reads like a list of the worst posters this forum has ever seen. That there are multiple accounts from the same people makes a lot of sense, because some of my favourite people on this earth are from Cork and yet a good proportion of the Cork posters on here have been genuinely LOL.

    Hopefully this last line sums it up well - Michael I wish you all the best in Vegas and hope you do well and enjoy it, Dougee19 go **** yourself.

    This is actually a great post, sums up absolutely everything I've had to do with the forum in the past really. I started stupid fights with everyone just for fun and it was completely pointless and I do admit that. Don't think I'll ever change mosts opinion of me but I shall not be as annoying from now on anyway so thats something :pac:
    Cheers for the post

    So can you all stop bickering from now on, I admit I was in the wrong before. If you don't want anything to do with it no more comments needed just stick to the topic/let the thread die out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    dougee19 wrote: »
    Don't think I'll ever change mosts opinion of me but I shall not be as annoying from now on anyway so thats something :pac:
    Just to let you know, it's completely possible to change the majority of people's opinions of you. Look at Yuletured, in the past he was one of the biggest trolls on here and was banned loads of times, but he's just won Poster of the Year and Personality of the year for 2009. So it is completely possible to change opinions.

    Best of luck with Vegas and everything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    Ste05 wrote: »
    Just to let you know, it's completely possible to change the majority of people's opinions of you. Look at Yuletured, in the past he was one of the biggest trolls on here and was banned loads of times, but he's just won Poster of the Year and Personality of the year for 2009. So it is completely possible to change opinions.

    Best of luck with Vegas and everything else.

    If i remember correctly the much hated Solskjaer was in the running for POY but had to pull out due to the moans a groans from the aisles.
    The bannings were usually when some poker cnut was on his high horse and I merely told em to fk off. more or less.

    It's a dark day for the poker forum today very dark. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Brian_N


    Have played against him a few times. Once you don't blow up you should do well :P I'll take 2%

    no omaha?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    All of this would make sense if this was May, and
    What if he chose not to accept the cash until then, was simply taking tender offers etc?
    Flipper wrote: »
    On Douglas' offer: As I've said before, I've no beef with Michael..../snip/
    Never understand why you get such a hard time, I've always found you pretty straight shooting and honest. perhaps a bit too much common sence /cynacism doesn't bode well for making friends down south.
    Great post.
    If i'm ever incorrectly on trial for a murder, can you sum up for the jury.
    FYP
    What situation have I been in again? I'm not happy with this insinuation. If you are referring to me being an asshole to some people on the forum, fair enough.
    Making up a poker game to screw Dave murray as you changed the rules to suit yourself is very dodgy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    YULETIRED wrote: »
    If i remember correctly the much hated Solskjaer was in the running for POY but had to pull out due to the moans a groans from the aisles.
    The bannings were usually when some poker cnut was on his high horse and I merely told em to fk off. more or less.

    It's a dark day for the poker forum today very dark. :D
    I'm sticking with my version of events... ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭tylerdurden94


    What if he chose not to accept the cash until then, was simply taking tender offers etc?


    Never understand why you get such a hard time, I've always found you pretty straight shooting and honest. perhaps a bit too much common sence /cynacism doesn't bode well for making friends down south.


    FYP

    Making up a poker game to screw Dave murray as you changed the rules to suit yourself is very dodgy!

    Huh to the last bit? (pm if necessary)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    Huh to the last bit? (pm if necessary)

    Jokes jokes! Reggie invented a poker game and Dave took him to the cleaners!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭SpencerJames


    I can relate to what Hotspur has said, and I guess thats why i sympathise with Michael. I myself was totally different on here to my real life persona. I do realise that this is an extension of my persona and a representation of myself.

    I hope you have taken this on board and that you can reasses your Dougee alter-ego.

    Also, for the same reasons I would ask the older posters on here to cut him some slack.

    Best of luck in Vegas!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Sirtoyou wrote: »
    I remember Hawkeye's vegas experience could have gone similar barring a big cash or Cardshark was certainly in a similar situation yet if they posted selling %s their hands would be bitten off and rightly so.

    lol, this is the stupidest post ever.

    Hawkeye's post pre-wsop was days not months.
    There was little poker content, but from what I remember, He basically crushed a live cash table. He was already regard as a good player before that post and the WSOP.
    If offer, a lot of us would of bought %s


    As for Cardshark.
    He was much more regular user of boards a year or two ago and was regarded as one of the best) players on boards. Dispite the Reggie busto vid that pops up every year, he would of sold out 50% in hours.
    Somebody can cprrect me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure he did sell or swap % with others who are pretty highly regarded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭bops


    Mellor wrote: »
    Somebody can cprrect me if i'm wrong

    the best bit of the thread :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Mellor wrote: »
    lol, this is the stupidest post ever.

    Hawkeye's post pre-wsop was days not months.
    There was little poker content, but from what I remember, He basically crushed a live cash table. He was already regard as a good player before that post and the WSOP.
    If offer, a lot of us would of bought %s


    As for Cardshark.
    He was much more regular user of boards a year or two ago and was regarded as one of the best) players on boards. Dispite the Reggie busto vid that pops up every year, he would of sold out 50% in hours.
    Somebody can cprrect me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure he did sell or swap % with others who are pretty highly regarded.


    Can't really use boards now in Argentina. Its too slow and doesn't load properly. I can't even see what links I'm clicking half the time. Don't know why, but its been the same everywhere in this country, and only for boards.
    That stupid video was funny about 3 years ago, sigh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 798 ✭✭✭lucky-colm


    I can relate to what Hotspur has said, and I guess thats why i sympathise with Michael. I myself was totally different on here to my real life persona. I do realise that this is an extension of my persona and a representation of myself.

    I hope you have taken this on board and that you can reasses your Dougee alter-ego.

    Also, for the same reasons I would ask the older posters on here to cut him some slack.

    Best of luck in Vegas!


    i can dig that,
    so what you are saying is',
    ye are like jekel and hyde or the priests:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭DrJFF


    This has been a very interesting thread thus far,

    I defo would have bought a couple of % if it was closer the events, if your still selling closer the date PM me

    gl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭dougee19


    This is closed for now; I have layed out how much I will need for Vegas and I have decided I want to sell 20% of my action total and get the other 80 myself. Have sold 14 on here and 5 privately so for the moment I will stop selling. If I don't make my target in that time I will be back selling here or on ptp.
    Thanks all for your above comments good and bad. Happy with this thread :)



    All of these are provisional and you can just pm me if you do not want to back out, I honestly won't mind


    a-k-47 2%
    THEIRISHMOB 2%
    keane2097 2%
    myflipflops 2%(sorry for never pmming, honestly never saw your post until now. Will do it once I am back in Cork during the week)
    pokerpisstaker 2%
    dave147 1%
    pppspecial 1%
    knucks213 1%
    roleynoley 1%


    If I have missed out on anyone then post and I will fix it. Was a fun thread and happy I did it as I am now going to try and mature on here instead of being an idiot :).
    Quite random to put it up so early but even when I'm gonna be normal on here I'm still gonna be kinda loopy.
    Thanks for all the comments and hope to see you all in Vegas at some point :D. gl all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭dougee19


    pm sent to all about this. I honestly have 0 problem if anyone wants to back out so just let me know.
    Cheers


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