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Doesn't make it right though. Especially in a car where you could have 5 screaming kids.
Most of the cars will be driven by people that wont be changign the wheel themselves anyway. They can handle a little compressor with a can of tyre weld though
Whats the story with the Verso models so? If the Corrolla Verso is based on the Avensis,Is there a reason why the corrolla Verso wasnt the one that was dropped (even if in name only) and the Avensis Verso kept?0 -
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Not much good if you buckle the alloy from whacking it off a kerb or pothole.Most of the cars will be driven by people that wont be changign the wheel themselves anyway. They can handle a little compressor with a can of tyre weld though
The original Corolla Verso was based on a model called the Spacio (based on the 02 Corolla) that was an early 2001 Japanese model. they ran it to compete with the Scenic, it bombed, so they pullled it after 18 months and launched the new model. AFAIK the 2001 model Spacio continues to be sold in other markets.Whats the story with the Verso models so? If the Corrolla Verso is based on the Avensis,Is there a reason why the corrolla Verso wasnt the one that was dropped (even if in name only) and the Avensis Verso kept?
The Avensis Verso was also based on the Avensis but was launched in 2001 so by 2007 (It was a replacement for the smaller Toyota Picnic 7 seater both called Ipsum in Japan) it had reached the end if it's product cycle (production actually ended in 2006).
It wasn't built to the same safety standards as the Corolla Verso and the only feature worth noting was the placement of the spare wheel under the passenger seat which freed up a load of space behind the rear seats - the boot floor actually goes down as far as the bottom of the bumper. The 03 Avensis (saloon) and 04 Corolla Verso have a design called MICS which is a bodyshell safety design which the Avensis Verso didn't have despite technically sharing a platform
The Corolla Verso met 5 star NCAP requirements (was the safest of the MPVs when scored) and had a far bigger market than the Avensis Verso, also Toyota want to get their collective emissions down so the smaller MPV was obviously the one they'd keep.
The Avensis Verso was to be replaced by a newer larger MPV that would also replace the ageing Previa. I think the 2004 model Sienna was deemedto be the most likely model that would come to Europe, but by the time they would get it homolgomated to European standards and get a European engine line-up the model would be a few years old. They probably figured they wouldn't sell enough of them to justify it.
The thing with Toyota is that they have a myriad of models to choose from, I think they have 90 models on sale in Japan. sometimes models brought to and sold in Europe overlap for whatever reason (product cycles, new types of vehicle etc).0 -
my point is all 7 seaters have enormous boots with the rear seats folded.
The Corolla Verso is actually wider than the Avensis Verso and has more middle seat room and front legroom. It isn't as tall though and has a longer bonnet.
I thought myself the Verso has one of the smallest, even with the seats down. The rear folding seats are also very tight. Still a good sized boot though. With 5 seats I think its 607 litres vs Touran 695 litres. I quite liked the Corolla though. Quite wide in the back. But when I was looking it was quite a good bit more expensive than other MPV's.
Theres actually a lot of stubtle differences between all the MPV's you need to get in and play with all the seats go for a drive to get a feel for which one suits.Doesn't make it right though. Especially in a car where you could have 5 screaming kids.
Not many have quintuplets. Well done you.
I don't like not having a spare wheel. Its a poor design. Though as Stekelly says most of the time the person driving the MPV is just doing local trips and is unlikely to change a wheel anyway. If I was doing a longer trip I'd propbably be using a roofbox and source a spare and jack from somewhere. But hardly do long road trips and rarely have got a roadside puncture. But then am usually near people who could come and help and the insurance has roadside assistance anyway.
If you are doing lots of long trips and get punctures then obviously you'd have to get something with a spare, even a full sized one.
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We had a Scenic... loads of Autolight-autowiper faults after the windscreen was replaced. Probably moisture in the gap between the sensor and the new screen - could happen on any make I guess.. shame as the 1.5dci was a lovely engine.
Now we have a Berlingo (5 seat) and a Grand Picasso (7 seat).. both will take 3 baby seats as they have 3 full size rear seats.. (we have twins). The kids love row 3 with can take fwd facing kiddie seats.. and you can get two (umbrella style) folded buggies behind row 3
GP is 1.6HDI EGS (electronic gear shift).. wife loves it. We have the Exclusive model which gets you Pneumatic rear suspension - but no spare wheel... we had a puncture (Cork councils best pot holes), cost us a night in hotel.. oops.. It has a jack though! you just need to flag down a lower spec C4 or Peugeut 308!
Other nice GP feature... auto hill hold!0 -
The Zafira definitely doesn't do this. it has a bench seat in the middle row which means the whole bench has to be slid forward (and child seats unbuckled) if you want to:
Get in or out of the rearmost seats
Fold or unfold the rear seats
remove or fit the luggage cover
That was the reason we never bothered with the rear row in the Zafira hire cars we had.
For some reason in the Scenic the kids try to get put in the boot Having the ability to move individual setas back and forward, to recline them and remove one or more when needed is very handy and I'd say a lot of people buying their first MPV might overlook it . TBH I didnt put much thought into it when buying the first Scenic, but it wasnt as big an issue as it was only a 5 seater. It was a big issue wehn we were lookign at the next one though when we had had the chance to mess with the seats in the first one. 0
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