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Women in high heels

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    star-pants wrote: »
    That's grand, I guess I meant more that those who find heels an aid to boosting confidence, how do they separate those that are using them as an aid, to those that aren't?
    Purely curiosity, because I fully understand people are attracted to different things. I myself have odd quirks regarding whether a guy is attractive or not to me.

    We're talking in generalities, so it's not perfect. Also I feel we're being asked to over-rationalise what we're saying. If you rationalise pretty much anything down to a certain level it starts making things seem different than they are, eg that I "look down" on women who wear high-heels.
    For example if I went into the Ladies Lounge and someone said they didn't find beards attractive (obviously this wouldn't happen) and I asked why, the more I ask them to rationalise their reasons the more pre-conceptions and misconceptions will show up, despite them not being the main reason for someone holding the opinion.

    I'm not really arsed with this thread anymore, so I'll say this and leave it, 99% of the time I prefer women wearing very little or no make-up and plain clothes. I don't think they're "better" than other females, just that those things tend to be signs of personality traits that I happen to like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    amacachi wrote: »
    99% of the time I prefer women wearing very little or no make-up and plain clothes. I don't think they're "better" than other females, just that those things tend to be signs of personality traits that I happen to like.

    I think this is the hub of it and that this is actually the first time it's been expressed properly, although it seems many posters are trying to say the same thing.

    It's about personal preference and perception. For example, my sister think I "dress up" more than she does. I wear different clothes to her. She tends to spend a lot of time in hoodies, jeans and trainers but then again, she has a few piercings, spends more time on her hair, wears more jewelry. As far as I can see we just prioritise different aspects of how we look.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    amacachi wrote: »
    I'm not really arsed with this thread anymore, so I'll say this and leave it, 99% of the time I prefer women wearing very little or no make-up and plain clothes. I don't think they're "better" than other females, just that those things tend to be signs of personality traits that I happen to like.

    I wasn't asking anyone to justify - I was merely curious. I found it interesting to see what different people thought.
    As I said, it doesn't bother me, I have my own quirks regarding what I like/don't like and I wouldn't expect anyone to feel the same. And it doesn't mean anyone's 'better' than anyone else, we all have our own personal taste. I didn't mean to offend anyone by asking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Jemmy


    amacachi wrote: »
    I'm not really arsed with this thread anymore, so I'll say this and leave it, 99% of the time I prefer women wearing very little or no make-up and plain clothes. I don't think they're "better" than other females, just that those things tend to be signs of personality traits that I happen to like.

    You say your gone but anyway here goes...

    I'm a girl who wears little or no makeup, little going out for a night and none at all day to day, and I wear plain clothes (as you put it) but I still love high heel shoes. It's nice to make the effort. So what are these personality traits your on about? I dont wear makeup, I don't wear mad fancy clothes but I like high heel shoes, so what does that make me according to your traits system?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,637 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    We seem to be getting a little bogged down here, heels caught in the grate if you will. Lets move on.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭Shinyboots


    OldGoat wrote: »
    We seem to be getting a little bogged down here, heels caught in the grate if you will. Lets move on.

    yea, some serious stuff here!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    I think at the end of the day we all judge each other by our clothes. I have to admit if I see a girl going out with straightened bleached blonde hair, massive stilletos and a skirt bet up her arse then I'm more than likely going to think (a) dollybird or (b) slapper.

    Thats my opinion and I'm entitled to it, at the same time they may look at me and go oh look at that scruffy hippy who can't be arsed making the effort and thats equally ok.

    At the same time though most of us have the sense to see through these things when we meet people in everyday life, I have plenty of girlfriends who would fall into one or both of my two categories above if they were just randomers on the street but I still love them for who they are and I think the same would apply for finding people attractive.

    A man may judge a girl for how shes dressed (and vice versa of course) on first appearances and go 'oh dollybird too prissy' or 'oh too trendy too tomboyish not into that' and dismiss them, but it's not to say that if they got to know each other through work or college etc that they would be able to find each other attractive later on or fall in love etc..

    We all have our preferences in terms of style and appearances and some guys simply don't like the style that tends to accompany massicely high stilettos and that's fair enough, more than likely their style wouldn't appeal to the girls wearing them anyway. I for example cannot stand the brogs and checked shirts tucked into jeans look that you see around town on a saturday night everywhere, but they probably don't find me attractive either!

    It's all primitive psychological stuff isn't it, identifying yourself with a stereotype (like a goth, emo, etc) of people that you generally are able to identify with on an emotional level also.

    I think people are reading way to far into this, who cares if everyone doesn't find everyone else equally attractive!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Jemmy wrote: »
    You say your gone but anyway here goes...

    I'm a girl who wears little or no makeup, little going out for a night and none at all day to day, and I wear plain clothes (as you put it) but I still love high heel shoes. It's nice to make the effort. So what are these personality traits your on about? I dont wear makeup, I don't wear mad fancy clothes but I like high heel shoes, so what does that make me according to your traits system?
    Presumably, an aberration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    I dont get this thread at all, long legs look really really good, even if there girls only 5.2, I know this to be the case granted there are some high heaels out there that look almost, porn star a like but then there are some that arnt i think if the woman can dress, and present her self well keeping cowardinated, then its a truly magnificant site to see....

    I mean i dont nesscerelly find a woamn unattractive wearing a pair of sneakers but to be honest if she wants to wear them so be it, it hink its nearly as bad as saying I dont like her because shes ggot a cork ccent :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    I dont get this thread at all, long legs look really really good, even if there girls only 5.2, I know this to be the case granted there are some high heaels out there that look almost, porn star a like but then there are some that arnt i think if the woman can dress, and present her self well keeping cowardinated, then its a truly magnificant site to see....

    I mean i dont nesscerelly find a woamn unattractive wearing a pair of sneakers but to be honest if she wants to wear them so be it, it hink its nearly as bad as saying I dont like her because shes ggot a cork ccent :confused:

    This thread doesn't make any sense because TASTE IS SUBJECTIVE!
    It's silly to expect everyone else to agree with our opinions or preferences. Im sure plenty of the high heal wearing girls would have ZERO interest in a guy going out looking like a hardcore goth!? There's nothing wrong with having a perference or finding certain styles unattractive we all do. At the same time stlye and image is simply more important for some people than others in tersm of finding someone attractive.
    I'm also fairly sure I couldn't find a guy with a D4 accent attractive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    This thread doesn't make any sense because TASTE IS SUBJECTIVE!
    It's silly to expect everyone else to agree with our opinions or preferences. Im sure plenty of the high heal wearing girls would have ZERO interest in a guy going out looking like a hardcore goth!? There's nothing wrong with having a perference or finding certain styles unattractive we all do. At the same time stlye and image is simply more important for some people than others in tersm of finding someone attractive.
    I'm also fairly sure I couldn't find a guy with a D4 accent attractive.


    Of course taset is subjective, some people cant dress with any sense of style, actuall cant cloth them self not matter what they wear or how hard they try!...

    But your forgetting something men are different to women in one area, men find visual attractive women... , now, if you going to tell me a woman looks attractive in a christmas jumper pink legings and new rock boots then im sorry it could be pulkled of in some unusal way but, my god, not likely....

    The fact of the matter is, all men find jackie deg attractive or eve mandays weather she wearing jeans or a tight fiting dress type thing....

    If you where to tell me joe brand on the other hand can look attractive due to her taste in clothing id say your a lier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    If you where to tell me joe brand on the other hand can look attractive due to her taste in clothing id say your a lier.

    Ok overall your post made very little sense but in response to your last statement, I can say that people don't have to be 'beautiful' to be attractive, attractiveness can be an amalgamation of dress sense, personality, persona and any other range of factors that appeal to ones own tastes.

    God knows I've gone out with a few fella's who were really not good looking at all but they dressed really well and so looked well and sexy as a result none the less so how you dress can compensate for a lot.

    I've also gone out with guys who had frankly the worst dress sense imaginable and two of them were drop dead gorgeous otherwise, but while they were great people and it did put me off how they dressed (and I didn't particularly like looking at them from the neck down) I loved them for who they were.

    On the otherhand if a girl looks like a slapper or a trackie or a goth or as hippy or whatever (and thats not what you're into) no matter how beautiful they are you're not necessarily going to want to sleep with them (ie you may be able to appreciate the physical beauty of her face/body without actually fancying them), some men might others wouldn't simple as that.

    You're trying to paint men with one brush here and I know for a fact that not all men are like that believe it or not some men might prefer a size 20 woman who wears the most horrible clothes out there but has got the best sense of humour they've ever come acrosss to someone with a size 8 butt, a great dress sense and the intelligence of a potato.

    Like I said everyone's different, clothes matter more for some than others when it comes to determining someone's overall attractiveness. To thers the sexiest thing may be a sense of humour, confidence, persona etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    star-pants wrote: »
    I wasn't asking anyone to justify - I was merely curious. I found it interesting to see what different people thought.
    As I said, it doesn't bother me, I have my own quirks regarding what I like/don't like and I wouldn't expect anyone to feel the same. And it doesn't mean anyone's 'better' than anyone else, we all have our own personal taste. I didn't mean to offend anyone by asking.


    This sums the whole arguement up nicely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Toes


    A good looking girl in high heels is pretty hot, but i really love when girls wear flats/flip flops etc very cute!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Of course taset is subjective, some people cant dress with any sense of style, actuall cant cloth them self not matter what they wear or how hard they try!...

    But your forgetting something men are different to women in one area, men find visual attractive women... , now, if you going to tell me a woman looks attractive in a christmas jumper pink legings and new rock boots then im sorry it could be pulkled of in some unusal way but, my god, not likely....

    The fact of the matter is, all men find jackie deg attractive or eve mandays weather she wearing jeans or a tight fiting dress type thing....

    If you where to tell me joe brand on the other hand can look attractive due to her taste in clothing id say your a lier.
    Wait, what?

    Your post can essentially be summed up with "Taste is subjective, but actually, taste isn't subjective"

    ...

    Not all guys will necessarily find either of the two women you mentioned attractive.


    Also, afaik you said you were dyslexic before, so I'm sympathetic towards your poor grammar and spelling, however, many of your posts verge on being incomprehensible. Might I suggest you copy and paste them into MS Word or an equvilent spelling and grammar checker before posting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    Wait, what?

    Your post can essentially be summed up with "Taste is subjective, but actually, taste isn't subjective"

    I agree the poster contradicted himself completely within the space of two sentances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Im sorrryfor confusing you booth


    unfortunatly i ant always get whats in my head out on to a keyboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    Im sorrryfor confusing you booth


    unfortunatly i ant always get whats in my head out on to a keyboard.

    Fair enough, no need for an apology though! We're all here in the spirit of arguementativeness ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    I'm just going to say what some others may have said. I don't like high heels. I don't think they're pretty and they don't add to a woman's sex appeal. In fact if you don't feel good in them then you're not going to look good. To me a barefoot woman is far more attractive than one in high heels.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Never mind if they look thrashy/slutty.

    Something like this can't be good for your feet no matter how stylish they look.


    This thread reminds me of that episode of the I.T Crowd when Jen gets new high heels that destroy her feet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Tallaght Saint


    God no I love it when my girlfriend wear her heels :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    I'm 5' 0'', but most of the time I wear heels no more than 2''. I couldn't get through a full day in work if I had higher ones on.

    At night I might go to 3'' heels, but only if there was no significant walking to be done.

    I despise platforms. They make me think more orthopedic than elegant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭window_licker


    That_Guy wrote: »
    .

    Something like this can't be good for your feet no matter how stylish they look.


    Why wouldnt they be god for your feet? there just your average heels?
    I love my heels, and always wear them on a night out, Im not one of these girls who brings flat shoes in her bag lol, if anybody tried to tell me i looked trashy in my heels, well, id take them off, but only to embed them in the back of their head :P Damn, i really am a lady :O:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    if anybody tried to tell me i looked trashy in my heels, well, id take them off, but only to embed them in the back of their head :P Damn, i really am a lady :O:rolleyes:

    Someone calls you trashy and you prove them wrong by stabbing them with a stilleto!? Brilliant! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭vicecreamsundae


    i'm a heel hater too ha.

    as for people who try to claim they are actually just as comfy as flat shoes..who are you kidding?! you don't have to be an engineer to look at them and know they are not designed to be comfortable! there's a reason slippers are flat!!

    even apart from the discomfort aspect, I don't think they are sexy or cute...i think they look goofy [especially the ones with pointed toes -yuck!] and old fashioned, conventional... i dunno, just the opposite of sexy and just reallly doesn't do it for me. hard to explain but something seems fake and just uncool about 'em. just don't get the ....point. [ahem].


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    something seems fake and just uncool about 'em.

    I agree 100% with that, when I was a young teenager my big sis always had me convinced straight away that runners etc were way cooler than heels and mini skirts. I much prefer a casual, trendy or just more laid back look too to the high maintenance manicured uber girlie look, it seems very contrived to me like fake nails, straightened hair etc.. lifes too short and we're all going to get old and wrinkly eventually anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    I'm female. I wear heals all the time because I'm small. However, I have a very limited shoe collection because I try to find comfortable heals and it is possible. The one I have bought that hurt rarely see the light of day. My heals vary form being 2" - 4" obviously the higher ones for going out etc.

    khrystyna100 it is possible to wear heals without being a wanta be WAG type of girl.

    For those of you who think they look trashy does that not depend on the entire outfit, hair, make-up etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    mood wrote: »
    khrystyna100 it is possible to wear heals without being a wanta be WAG type of girl.

    For those of you who think they look trashy does that not depend on the entire outfit, hair, make-up etc?

    Ya it is but the two do tend to go hand in hand more often than not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    The majority of women I know who wear heals are not at all like that but I suppose if you look around a night club you get that impression.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    mood wrote: »
    The majority of women I know who wear heals are not at all like that but I suppose if you look around a night club you get that impression.

    Ya I'm not referring to women who wear them to work or a wedding etc.. I'm talking about recreational foot abuse just for the hell of it in clubs etc. The context matters alright.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Ya I'm not referring to women who wear them to work or a wedding etc.. I'm talking about recreational foot abuse just for the hell of it in clubs etc. The context matters alright.

    Yes. My point exactly... the whole outfit etc obviously will or will not give a trashy look not just the shoe/heal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭sorrywhat


    Im a woman and I hate them. But I do think they look sexy when worn with confidence.

    I just cant walk in them. Reason for hating them.

    I would love to be able to wear them going out as Im fairly short and they look handy when standing at a bar trying to get served!

    I wear flat shoes going out and I they look nice on me just as heels look nice on another girl as both shoe wearers feel comfortable in what they are wearing.

    But I also dont think I could wear shoes that hurt me either. Id end up taking them off and wearing no shoes. And thats not fun.

    So Im all for the flats im afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    if anybody tried to tell me i looked trashy in my heels, well, id take them off, but only to embed them in the back of their head :P Damn, i really am a lady :O:rolleyes:

    This made me think of you :pac:
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100211/tuk-man-stabbed-in-eye-with-stiletto-6323e80.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Are you for real?? shooting down our femininity? haha. A woman shouldnt have to wear heels just so a guy like yourself can say.. oh i dont like them.. we wear heels for ourselves.. cos perhaps we like them / they go with our outfits etc etc.. its not just so guys can look at us and pass remarks!

    Fair enough you prob dont know a monolo Blahnik from a louboutin - but dont be putting us down and calling us slightly trashy / slutty for having an appreciation for nice things!

    maybe we dont like your choice of shoes or shirt.. but we arnt writing a thread about it!

    Am I the only one who doesn't like it? I just think girls look slightly trashy/slutty in high heels. Yes, I know they all wear them, nut I don't like it. Anyone with me?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    I think high heels suit some girls and dont suit others, some girls just look good in them, confident, sexy and elegant, others look like they are struggling to walk, almost nervous and its shows.

    Personally, if a girl has nice legs, high heels defo enhance them, elongate them and I wouldn't discourage a girl from wearing them if they feel comfortable in them. However if I was with a girl who is wearing heels for the sake of it and isn't particularly comfortable wearing them, I would ask her why is she bothering?

    Its all about what they are comfortable in not conforming to a look just to fit it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭madduke


    lads and ladies high heels are just super sexy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭DubiousDude


    Am I the only one who doesn't like it? I just think girls look slightly trashy/slutty in high heels. Yes, I know they all wear them, nut I don't like it. Anyone with me?

    I didn't read through this whole thread but just from the opening post I can say that I like a slightly trashy/slutty look. It looks sexy to me. The 'good, sweet girl' type look bores me. I always encourage my woman to dress that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭JJ


    I say if a woman likes wearing high heels and they're comfortable and/or they make her feel confident that's great. But there's nothing worse than seeing a woman who can't handle walking in high heels or having to slow down because your partner can't walk at a normal pace in her high heels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭kotva


    the problem is dear boys and girls, that most of them(girls) wearing high hills to large (size) and they look just stupid. They can't walk in it, it just inposible, and another problem: nearly all of them can't match her hight hills to the dress:P


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