Big Freeze Discussion (Friday 8/1/10)

Dublin_Gunner

ibarelycare wrote: »

I don't understand how councils were running out of grit. There were numerous quarries/concrete companies ringing up Liveline yesterday to say they had plenty of grit to offer to the councils...one quarry in Oldcastle was even giving the grit away for free if the local councils could collect it themselves. So what's the problem?

Because there is probably some stupid agreement with an English firm that they would exclusively supply all the grit/salt to our councils.

Wouldn't surprise me. Twats. Sending the money outside of the country when businesses here could provide it (and keep the money in OUR economy).

MilanPan!c

Suddenly I'm the guy reminding people that there's a difernce majour between grit and salt.

Plus, if your council went to some third party and paid through the nose for dirt you'd all be calling for their blood in July.

We need salt and patience.

Rodar08

Ha haa! The Donegal Postman is making an appearance on The Late Late Show tonight lol:D Cool!!

WolfeIRE

eastie wrote: »

WTF?? How can it end up as rain if its below zero when its raining??

Fecken Dublin gets everything

because the air in the uppers (1200 metres up) do not favour snow. It may be -3c at ground level but +1 higher up where the snow forms. Remember xmas day - -3c but freezing rain everywhere? Rain froze on ground when it landed.

wertyl

Calina wrote: »

You are not endearing yourself here.

1) I lived in lots of foreign countries before I settled back here 10 years ago. I never once called anyone my host country "primitive" just because they told me something I didn't like.

2) Ireland has lots of problems. Extreme cold in the winter on an annual basis is not one of them. If you are as bright as you think you are, you would understand that this is extreme by our standards and therefore we are unlikely to be fully prepared for it. You have not addressed this point.

3) If you don't like it here you can either constructively work to improve things which is what most of my generation did or you can continue to wallow in your pool of dislike and negativity.

4) Leaving is always an option. Having a family and an business are not an excuse to feel trapped. The one doing the trapping is yourself. End of. If I really wanted to go, I'd look at making it possible, not moping about how external events make it not possible.

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Sun is shining here at the moment (north county Dublin). I see a radar chart suggesting some cloud on the way in. Anyone know if this is likely to dump some more snow on the M1?

Calina, I think you read a little too much into my post and person here. I am sorry for your wasted effort, but that post was actually a mistake, which you of course could not have known. I had not finished writing it and somehow managed to press Enter, so it got submitted, and then it would not let me submit it the finished post again. I do not spend a lot of time on Boards, because whenever I write something, people get angry, and aggressive over very little.

WolfeIRE

MilanPan!c wrote: »

We need salt and patience.

not enough traction in patients:p

maquiladora

eastie wrote: »

WTF?? How can it end up as rain if its below zero when its raining??

Fecken Dublin gets everything

Because temps are forecast to rise to about 3c along the east coast late on Sunday, it can snow when temps are 2c but abot 3c it usually is rain/sleet.

Mobhi1

eastie wrote: »

WTF?? How can it end up as rain if its below zero when its raining??

Fecken Dublin gets everything

We didn't think that last week!:)

ibarelycare

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Suddenly I'm the guy reminding people that there's a difernce majour between grit and salt.

Plus, if your council went to some third party and paid through the nose for dirt you'd all be calling for their blood in July.

We need salt and patience.

So does grit do nothing if spread on its own? Does it have to be mixed with salt?

wertyl

ibarelycare wrote: »

I don't understand how councils were running out of grit. There were numerous quarries/concrete companies ringing up Liveline yesterday to say they had plenty of grit to offer to the councils...one quarry in Oldcastle was even giving the grit away for free if the local councils could collect it themselves. So what's the problem?

Yup, I am asking the same question. I guess, it is because it is not the correct type of grit, so they would rather use nothing at all and have people falling breaking their legs or??

sunbabe08

Ludo wrote: »

Yep...it is freezing fog all over the roads and trees in parts of cork city...not snow. I was out in it at 6.30 this morning and you could see the ice particles in the fog falling to the ground.

thank you kindly

WolfeIRE

ibarelycare wrote: »

So does grit do nothing if spread on its own? Does it have to be mixed with salt?

grit provides traction for vehicles and pedestrians but it does not melt the ice/snow like salt.

jenzz

Thanks Maq - Just saw a txt onmy phone @ 8:50 from sis in Greystones - Are you getting this blizzard?? Cant belivev I missed it ..... any more on the way ?

Mobhi1

ibarelycare wrote: »

So does grit do nothing if spread on its own? Does it have to be mixed with salt?

Salt melts the ice; grit provides traction in snow. I think.

DOCARCH

maquiladora wrote: »

Because temps are forecast to rise to about 3c along the east coast late on Sunday, it can snow when temps are 2c but abot 3c it usually is rain/sleet.

It will all be about dew points! Usually if it sleets or snows at 2, 3 or 4c (with a low dew point) then the precipitation itself will bring down temperatures to sustain the snow.

I think I have seen snow/sleet fall here at 6c (obviously with a low dew point).

Figuramatyi

wertyl wrote: »

I do not spend a lot of time on Boards, because whenever I write something, people get angry, and aggressive over very little.

And that never made you think that the problem might be with YOU?
Your posts are rude indeed. If you don't see that, it could be just a language issue. Now I'm really curious where you are from, as I know people from some countries regularly have this problem, because of specific language circumstances.

Trotter

maquiladora wrote: »

Another spell of snow will affect mainly Leinster and Munster during Sunday and Monday with falls of 5 to 10 cm expected ( highest in eastern and southeastern counties). Strong easterly winds will lead to drifting.

Stick that up your Waterford Raincloud lads!! I will get a photo of snow in Waterford.. I WILL!!

maquiladora

jenzz wrote: »

Thanks Maq - Just saw a txt onmy phone @ 8:50 from sis in Greystones - Are you getting this blizzard?? Cant belivev I missed it ..... any more on the way ?

Not at the moment, Irish Sea looks quiet now. Not much expected now till early tomorrow. Might be a few odd showers before then.

Jip

kingshankly wrote: »

That sun could wipe away a weeks good work:mad:

We can only hope so.

Elmer Blooker

kingshankly wrote: »

That sun could wipe away a weeks good work:mad:

If the air temperature is below freezing, which it is, then the sun will have no effect whatsoever. The Big One in 1982 was followed by a week of glorious dazzling sunshine but daytime temps were well below freezing so there was no thaw until the Atlantic influence returned.

joes girls

DonnieBrasco wrote: »

google search on wexford and waterford temperature is showing as -10C ...cant be right can it ???

No this cant be right, but its very cold this morning, can anyone tell me what the temps are in wexford town now???

maquiladora

Trotter wrote: »

Stick that up your Waterford Raincloud lads!! I will get a photo of snow in Waterford.. I WILL!!

Yep, could see a few inches before it might turn to sleet/rain.

jenzz

maquiladora wrote: »

Met Eireann predicting up to 2 inches of snow the east on Saturday followed by up to 4 inches of snow in the east and southeast over the next 2 days.

Plus the 6 we already had, plus the 1 " that fell this morning. Thats like 13" of snow in sunny seaside Bray lol :D:D:D

maquiladora

DOCARCH wrote: »

It will all be about dew points! Usually if it sleets or snows at 2, 3 or 4c (with a low dew point) then the precipitation itself will bring down temperatures to sustain the snow.

I think I have seen snow/sleet fall here at 6c (obviously with a low dew point).

Dew points look to be borderline 0/1c till late Monday on the south coast when they start to rise.

ibarelycare

WolfeIRE wrote: »

grit provides traction for vehicles and pedestrians but it does not melt the ice/snow like salt.

Well I don't know about salt but the government/councils are saying that the grit supply is dangerously low, yet it is being offered for sale/for free from various quarries around the country!

sunbabe08

is this snow definite for sunday and monday??? cause i'm sick of accuweather and it's false predictions, it said it was going to be snowing in cork yesterday:mad:

maquiladora

jenzz wrote: »

Plus the 6 we already had, plus the 1 " that fell this morning. Thats like 13" of snow in sunny seaside Bray lol :D:D:D

You got 6 inches of snow already? That was back when Met Eireann were forecasting just 2 inches. So by that calculation you can expect up to 18 more inches by Monday. :D

(Joking...)

poindexter

no hot water coming out of any taps, cold water only coming out of kitchen sink just now. heating is on ok though.

how can i get this sorted, what do i have to do??

maquiladora

sunbabe08 wrote: »

is this snow definite for sunday and monday???

Met Eireann seem certain.

wertyl

Figuramatyi wrote: »

And that never made you think that the problem might be with YOU?
Your posts are rude indeed. If you don't see that, it could be just a language issue. Now I'm really curious where you are from, as I know people from some countries regularly have this problem, because of specific language circumstances.

Now, give me an example of being rude. I only responded to someone who told me to "go back home", which I found rude and "primitive". No, the problem is not me, but that people feel safe behind their screen. I sort of doubt the person would tell me to my face to "go back home".