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DaBrow

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I know from a previous thread that there are hapkido clubs in Ireland but one thing which I just cannot get to grips with is this.

Dublin, a city of 1 million people. There are virtually very few/no hapkido clubs in the area; I mean they are either very hard to find or they are so invisible, they don't appear to even exist.

I have been told of two in dublin: One taught by a Master Beveridge in a community centre near rialto & the coombe and another in Aughrim Street Parish.... which will be out of the way as I am going to be going back to university.

The only places where there have been definite advertisements of this art are: Cork, Waterford and Wicklow.

I am aware of Grandmaster Ghorbhanni in Bray; but Bray isn't Dublin... He is widely respected and seeing his list of very impressive achievements, I'd love to have him as my master. The problem is that for most people in Dublin who don't live on the dartline, this isn't really a possibility.

How can this be? Why aren't there more around either in the city centre or in the suburbs?

It's a shame because I really want to take this style up and there are very few places that teach it....

DaBrow

Why aren't there any replies?

yomchi

Becasue it's not popular?

DaBrow

yomchi wrote: »

Becasue it's not popular?

I think the reason would be that there isn't even a proper presence of it; let's imagine taekwondo wasn't present in Dublin.

How would they get noticed? I think they started out by promoting themselves and setting up classes, that is how I would grow.

yomchi

Fair enough. Problem solved?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Eugene McQuillan filled IrishFighter Mag with Hapkido for the last few years and it still never took off in Dublin, guess its just not all that popular here.

Dawei

I guess it is just not as popular as TKD, since the latter is in the olympics. TKD is more popular than Kung fu in china among young people, how sad is that.

BTW, I think there is another one in Baggot street no too sure though if it is akido , or hapkido.

Ug Lee

I know I am being picky but Dublin City only has a population of about a half million and Dublin County another half million so its a million altogether.

I would also be wary of wanting someone to become "your master" I can understand wanting someone who is a master to become your teacher but "my master" sounds dadgy.

yomchi

Ug Lee wrote: »

I know I am being picky but Dublin City only has a population of about a half million and Dublin County another half million so its a million altogether.

I would also be wary of wanting someone to become "your master" I can understand wanting someone who is a master to become your teacher but "my master" sounds dadgy.

God knows Irish people have had enough masters through the centuries. I don't like this term either and it makes me cringe. However I think if you put it into the context of martial arts it resembles the eastern/oriental/confucian way of thinking which has been adopted, somewhat oddly, by western some people involved in eastern martial systems.

Back on topic, I think Eugene is finished with Hapkido, or Combat Hapkido as it was called. I haven't heard sight nor sound of him in years. I could be wrong though.

DaBrow

yomchi wrote: »

God knows Irish people have had enough masters through the centuries. I don't like this term either and it makes me cringe. However I think if you put it into the context of martial arts it resembles the eastern/oriental/confucian way of thinking which has been adopted, somewhat oddly, by western some people involved in eastern martial systems.

Back on topic, I think Eugene is finished with Hapkido, or Combat Hapkido as it was called. I haven't heard sight nor sound of him in years. I could be wrong though.

The Term Master which I have mentioned; is purely the oriental philosphy of the teacher and the student learning the art to pass it on.

The other thread on this subject had a poster who confirmed that Eugene McQuinlan/Quillan left dublin and moved to tenerife... to become a fisherman.

Let's just think about this though; is it really acceptable for an international capital city to have no presence whatsoever of Hapkido? Not even a single class based in the city centre that is advertised? If there was I'm sure it would have a greater presence...

This is a golden opportunity for any hapkido association to exploit... Why not for the few ones we have available which for some strange reason are outside the capital?

DaBrow

Ari Creamy Boy wrote: »

Eugene McQuillan filled IrishFighter Mag with Hapkido for the last few years and it still never took off in Dublin, guess its just not all that popular here.

I think the reason why was because it was based in Portmarnock; which unless if you lived there would be a nightmare for others to get to on an evening.

Dublin is sadly a city which has terrible traffic management due to the number of cars that clog up the roads to and fro the city; The Buses are fairly reliable but still rather limited in areas they travel to and from.... the only true way of commuting suburb to suburb when you live on the other side of the liffey is either the dart/own transport/ A Metro which should have been developed many years ago.

There officially isn't one hapkido class in the dublin city/county area... only Bray which you can get to if you catch the dart or bus to there in wicklow.

Ug Lee

yomchi wrote: »

God knows Irish people have had enough masters through the centuries. I don't like this term either and it makes me cringe. However I think if you put it into the context of martial arts it resembles the eastern/oriental/confucian way of thinking which has been adopted, somewhat oddly, by western some people involved in eastern martial systems.

Back on topic, I think Eugene is finished with Hapkido, or Combat Hapkido as it was called. I haven't heard sight nor sound of him in years. I could be wrong though.

Apparently Eugene is still teaching. A work colleague started training with him a few months ago. He was telling me that "a lot" of the class (up to one hour) is physical conditioning.

For me, calling someone "my master" is the first step on the road to abandoning critical/independent thinking. It is due to this type of thinking that we have had all the problems with the church, Mao, etc.

But maybe I am just being arsey.

DaBrow

Ug Lee wrote: »

It is due to this type of thinking that we have had all the problems with the church, Mao, etc.

But maybe I am just being arsey.

With respect, let's please leave the church out of this discussion that is completely separate and a heated subject given what some pervertors did... this is about why hapkido isn't more widely available in Dublin.

The term master is used in the context of a teacher that has many years of knowledge behind them educating and passing on his knowledge to a student who is worthy of learning the art... not a title that allows someone to treat others lower than in experience like a slave.

A martial arts student isn't forced to think the exact same as their teacher... but they should obey what they are taught in class and accept that their teacher has more years of wisom/experience... It is student who has to acknowledge they have a responsibility to use their knowledge for good.

yomchi

Ug Lee wrote: »

Apparently Eugene is still teaching. A work colleague started training with him a few months ago. He was telling me that "a lot" of the class (up to one hour) is physical conditioning.

For me, calling someone "my master" is the first step on the road to abandoning critical/independent thinking. It is due to this type of thinking that we have had all the problems with the church, Mao, etc.

But maybe I am just being arsey.

We've had problems with Mao?

Roper

LOL @ the facebook group!

I started one yesterday "Why isn'y my bin collected on a Sunday". I'm expecting once I reach 12 members I'll get Dublin City Council to agree.

DaBrow

Roper wrote: »

LOL @ the facebook group!

I started one yesterday "Why isn'y my bin collected on a Sunday". I'm expecting once I reach 12 members I'll get Dublin City Council to agree.

It's relatively new, so no cheap shots please... Sunday BTW is supposed to be a day of rest.

This group will grow naturally as it is only a few days old and I don't know anyone in Dublin whom practises Hapkido... the purpose is to find out or influence more hapkido clubs to emerge in Dublin.

Ug Lee

What do you like about Hapkido and where do you live?

DaBrow

Ug Lee wrote: »

What do you like about Hapkido and where do you live?

I live near Terenure and I'd like to learn Hapkido partly because I remember seeing Ji Han Jae in the Game of Death using the art.... I was amazed at the disposal of techniques that it offered.

A book by Steven Tedeschi called Hapkido: Traditions, Philosphy & Technique just blew me away.

I remember reading an old article on Master's Temple that about nearly 3 years ago there was going to be a class opening in Rathmines with a Master Ken Mahony teaching, but there is no trace of a class and also Master Ghorbhanni after a email exchange didn't mention your man in rathmines either.

Roper

DaBrow wrote: »

It's relatively new, so no cheap shots please... Sunday BTW is supposed to be a day of rest.

This group will grow naturally as it is only a few days old and I don't know anyone in Dublin whom practises Hapkido... the purpose is to find out or influence more hapkido clubs to emerge in Dublin.

Mate it's not a cheap shot. Sitting on your hole expecting Facebook to do your work for you is just silly.

If you're really that interested, get off your chair and get the bus/2 buses/bus and Dart to somewhere.

DaBrow

Roper wrote: »

Mate it's not a cheap shot. Sitting on your hole expecting Facebook to do your work for you is just silly.

If you're really that interested, get off your chair and get the bus/2 buses/bus and Dart to somewhere.

The group is for anyone in Dublin that has the same frustration as me in this area.

I don't have a car which is what would be required and quite frankly it's ridiculous that Dublin with the population of over a million doesn't have this art in it's boundries.

I live in Dublin 6 and it would be a logical tiring to go home after work.... cook dinner and make my way out to Bray for 8.30pm finish at 10pm and make my way back to where I live on public transport when by that time the buses/darts are not as frequent.

It's easier said than done.... There should be at least a few more easily accessible classes within Dublin than having to commute outside the county.

http://massanghorbanimasterstemple.com/timetable.php

Grandmaster Ghorbhanni only teaches Hapkido on Mondays/Thursdays at 9pm til 10.30pm & a Friday at 7-8pm.... These times are really awkward for me and getting to bray and back from there at those times are not easy.

yomchi

I think Dublin with over a million in population not having a metro is more of an argument.

DaBrow

yomchi wrote: »

I think Dublin with over a million in population not having a metro is more of an argument.

Please can we stick to the topic? That isn't relevant to Martial Arts discussion, I think it's ridiculous that for the capital of Ireland which is the first city of this country... we have a very limited selection of martial arts to learn.

If you went to London, Paris, Madrid, Rome or even the accession states... you'd find a hapkido club in their capitals... but not Ireland?

Ug Lee

DaBrow wrote: »

I live in Dublin 6 and it would be a logical tiring to go home after work.... cook dinner and make my way out to Bray for 8.30pm finish at 10pm and make my way back to where I live on public transport when by that time the buses/darts are not as frequent.

It's easier said than done.... There should be at least a few more easily accessible classes within Dublin than having to commute outside the county.

http://massanghorbanimasterstemple.com/timetable.php

Grandmaster Ghorbhanni only teaches Hapkido on Mondays/Thursdays at 9pm til 10.30pm & a Friday at 7-8pm.... These times are really awkward for me and getting to bray and back from there at those times are not easy.

I used to train every Saturday in Warrenpoint. I got up at 6.30 in the morning, took a bus into Connolly Street, got the train to Newry, got a taxi to Warrenpoint and did the same in the evening. I would get home at 6.30pm.

Where do you work? Don't go home after work. Go to Bray and get a sandwich in the spar, train and get into bed at 12.30 or whatever.

And stop whinging.

DaBrow

Ug Lee wrote: »

I used to train every Saturday in Warrenpoint. I got up at 6.30 in the morning, took a bus into Connolly Street, got the train to Newry, got a taxi to Warrenpoint and did the same in the evening. I would get home at 6.30pm.

Where do you work? Don't go home after work. Go to Bray and get a sandwich in the spar, train and get into bed at 12.30 or whatever.

And stop whinging.

I work near the Airport and believe me catching the 16A every morning early, especially when it's not even rush hour is busy enough.

I'm strongly considering going back to University in October; by that time I'll have very little money as I'm saving cash to do a masters aswell as find a place to live near DCU.

Once I'm back at university, I'm only going to be able to travel when and where necessary... I won't have the luxury of a car or not worrying about how much travel will cost.

I'm not whinging, I think it's just crazy that as a potential student of this Art... I cannot find one in my own town/city.


Yet you can find at least one in Riga, Paris, Brussels or Lisbon


P.S.
I admire your spirit that you had commuting to Warrenpoint but that just seems crazy, Newry is more than 60 miles for a class... I see why you likely stopped because that is too far.

Ug Lee

DaBrow wrote: »

I admire your spirit that you had commuting to Warrenpoint but that just seems crazy, Newry is more than 60 miles for a class... I see why you likely stopped because that is too far.

Thanks but I travelled to Newry on a Saturday to get to a certain level while also training in Dublin City Centre on a Tuesday and Thursday. I now travel to the UK and Germany for seminars while teaching in Dublin. I have students who travel from Navan, Athlone, and Sligo on a weekly basis.

You seem to feel strongly about Hapkido. That is fair enough but the responsibility for training in it is for you to travel. I really don't think you are going to get any sympathy for this thread.

DaBrow

Ug Lee wrote: »

Thanks but I travelled to Newry on a Saturday to get to a certain level while also training in Dublin City Centre on a Tuesday and Thursday. I now travel to the UK and Germany for seminars while teaching in Dublin. I have students who travel from Navan, Athlone, and Sligo on a weekly basis.

You seem to feel strongly about Hapkido. That is fair enough but the responsibility for training in it is for you to travel. I really don't think you are going to get any sympathy for this thread.

I think what you're telling me is striking.... I can't believe that people have to travel so far for training or seminars.

This just really shows that Hapkido needs support or some form of network of solidarity for it to grow.... Can you PM your details on what and where you teach this art?

I have contacted Hapkido schools in Britain like Dukmoo whom are present in France, Greece, Germany & the UK... They have said they would arrnage a seminar if they know the turnout will be good. http://www.dukmoo.com/links.php

The European Hapkido Alliance's nearest class was far away from me aswell.... http://www.hapki.co.uk/

I lived in Britain/England for years and there are no hapkido clubs near where I used to live; It's either Newcastle & Teeside or Further the South you go.

yomchi

I used to travel to cork for squad training and I travelled to Bulgaria to grade last time out. Jump on the dart to Bray, problem solved.

I live in Dublin 6 and it would be a logical tiring to go home after work.... cook dinner and make my way out to Bray for 8.30pm finish at 10pm and make my way back to where I live on public transport when by that time the buses/darts are not as frequent.

I think Dublin with over a million in population not having a metro is more of an argument.

Please can we stick to the topic? That isn't relevant to Martial Arts discussion,

It might be a martial arts discussion forum, but your travel problems were raised by you, hence my reply.

I tend to agree that this thread is a bit futile. There are no Hapkido clubs in Dublin. Sin é. Nothing more you can do except make the effort to travel to one or take up Aikido, which is identicle.

DaBrow

yomchi wrote: »

I used to travel to cork for squad training and I travelled to Bulgaria to grade last time out. Jump on the dart to Bray, problem solved.

It might be a martial arts discussion forum, but your travel problems were raised by you, hence my reply.

I tend to agree that this thread is a bit futile. There are no Hapkido clubs in Dublin. Sin é. Nothing more you can do except make the effort to travel to one or take up Aikido, which is identicle.

This thread isn't futile; it's a genuine issue which from aspiring students I think is entirely relevant to Martials Arts discussion.

Dublin should have Hapkido Schools exactly in its boundary but for some unusual reason it doesn't..... Why?

More importantly why do you have to travel to the ends of the earth to get to one? Especially when you can't get there and back with relative ease?

Furious-Dave

DaBrow wrote: »

This thread is futile; it's a genuine issue which from aspiring students I think is entirely relevant to Martials Arts discussion.

Dublin should have Hapkido Schools exactly in its boundary but for some unusual reason it doesn't..... Why?

More importantly why do you have to travel to the ends of the earth to get to one? Especially when you can't get there and back with relative ease?

Why should Dublin have a Hapkido school? Perhaps the lack of one is due to the small number of schools in Ireland. Perhaps it was cheaper for the existing schools to set up elsewhere. There's plenty of styles I'd like to see around but I don't start moaning about it.

DaBrow

Furious-Dave wrote: »

Why should Dublin have a Hapkido school? There's plenty of styles I'd like to see around but I don't start moaning about it.

Dublin should have one because most european capitals have at least one; why should we not? It's a reasonable question to ask.

I apologise if I appear to be moaning; I'm not but I am just very frustrated that for a capital of over a million people... There isn't a great variety to choose from.

I study Wado Ryu but I would like to have another art that I can become familiar with also... TKD isn't really that different and nothing else appears as exciting.

Ug Lee

DaBrow wrote: »

There isn't a great variety to choose from.

There is a hugh amount of martial arts to choose from in Dublin. Just not the one you happen to be interested in. Probably the reason why there are not more Hapkido clubs is because teachers don't want to go to all the trouble of setting up in the City Centre and have whingers like you say, "I can't travel all the way to the City Centre because I live all the way out in Terenure/work near the airport, etc"

My girlfriend is sitting beside me watching me write this and is rolling her eyes at what I am writing. She says I am a big child. I agree.

Furious-Dave

DaBrow wrote: »

Dublin should have one because most european capitals have at least one; why should we not? It's a reasonable question to ask.

I apologise if I appear to be moaning; I'm not but I am just very frustrated that for a capital of over a million people... There isn't a great variety to choose from.

I study Wado Ryu but I would like to have another art that I can become familiar with also... TKD isn't really that different and nothing else appears as exciting.

You're coming across as if you think by right we should a Hapkido school and are looking for someone to give out to over it. Should or shouldn't doesn't come into it. It's whether or not there's enough coaches around and if they can afford to rent a hall in Dublin. Also if there's enough interest around to make it feasible.

yomchi

• There is no Hapkido club in Dublin
• If you like Hapkido this is a bummer
• There is no Hapkido in Dublin because it's not popular enough
• If you like Hapkido this is a bummer
• There should be a Hapkido club in Dublin
• We all agree
• However there IS one in Bray
• Go there

No end of discussion here will bring about your Hapkido club, therefore the thread is futile and now locked.

arybvtcw0eolkf

OP I think this is the thread which you said Yomchi said could be opened again, if its not I apologise to Yomchi.

Here's a suggestion for you - get in touch with an established Hapkido club and see if they'll support you if you start a training group in Dublin City Centre.

Its really no big deal, we'd a young lad in one of our Judo clubs, a white belt but he was moving to the midlands with his job.

He loved Judo and wanted to continue in a town without a club, so he started a training group and has some black belts who are willing to travel and over look the club and gradings occasionally and last I heard its got a growing membership and the lad is on his yellow belt!.

Just something for you to consider.

Doug Cartel

DaBrow, have you even gone to a single hapkido class yet?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Have fun.

DaBrow

Doug Cartel wrote: »

DaBrow, have you even gone to a single hapkido class yet?

Yes, I've been to a few... I watched the classes and that is why I liked the look of it .

I work near Dublin Airport and the days/times that are offered in Master Ghorbhanni's Dojang are not possible for me... I don't have a car and getting out of Collinstown is a pain after 5pm because you can be stuck for hours with traffic.

The whole basis of this thread is to make Hapkido more available in the Dublin Area, so if you support this idea then please stop dwelling on Bray... It is not easy to get to at all during the week.

Doug Cartel

You just watched, instead of participating? That's hilarious, but I'm getting off the point here.

So really the problem is not that there isn't hapkido in Dublin, the problem is that there isn't any hapkido in Dublin that fits in with your schedule. There's a very simple fix to this - pick something else.

There's nothing particularly fantastic about HKD to set it apart from the many other options that are available to you. It's basically just TKD/TSD crossed with aikido and a couple of judo throws. Any of the "traditional" styles of jujutsu or maybe kempo would give you a reasonable approximation to it.

DaBrow

Doug Cartel wrote: »

You just watched, instead of participating? That's hilarious, but I'm getting off the point here.

So really the problem is not that there isn't hapkido in Dublin, the problem is that there isn't any hapkido in Dublin that fits in with your schedule. There's a very simple fix to this - pick something else.

The whole point of this thread is for campaigning to have Hapkido more widely available in Dublin... Having a city of a Million People and not being able to have a club that you can get to easily is ridiculous.... There are many in DUblin like myself who share this frustration. I made contact with several UK Based Hapkido Schools if they had links in Ireland; they say that they have had hundreds of Irish people enquire or even fly over there to train... That shows how much demand there is for this.

Doug, if you are just going to just throw unhelpful jibes... Don't bother posting.

Doug Cartel

I am being helpful. I just gave you a viable solution to your problem.

An alternative solution might be for you to get a group of people together and arrange to take privates together and split the cost. You might be able to have these at a time that's more suitable fro your schedule. If this training group takes off, it could lead to a situation where the person giving the classes sets up something more permanent in a more central location.

I don't see what result you expect a facebook group to have. Getting a suitable training location in the city centre is difficult and expensive. No one is going to set something like this up based on a couple of people saying the might train if it becomes available. There's a huge drop out rate for new students so the facebook group would have to be huge in order to contain a viable number of long term students.

Furious-Dave

This is beginning to get on my nerves to honest. DaBrow there's not much that people on here can do to get Hapkido classes with times that suit you to set up in Dublin. Even if we all join your group, it's not going to do much good. Every style in Ireland arrived here by one of three methods (that I can think of). 1. People lived abroad for a few years and trained their style there. When the returned to Ireland they brought their style with them and set up here 2. Foreigners moved to Ireland bringing their styles with them or 3. People here attended seminars from visiting instructors and traveled abroad to train and grade every few months. As I said before, the rent for space in Dublin is massive and probably a major reason why many don't set up here. There's also nothing ridiculous about a particular sport not being available in a particular city. It's not that easy for people to just up an move to an island in the Atlantic. I could moan about BJJ being the only submission wrestling style (that I know of) that has any decent representation in Ireland, and start campaigning for more Luta Livre and Catch Wrestling clubs. But it doesn't bother me at all and even then moaning won't achieve anything.
Anyway, why don't you go to the Hapkido forum on Martial Arts Planet and talk to people there. You'll probably get more help there than on here. http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

Doug Cartel

Wait I've got it!

1. Phone up the guy in Bray, find out how much he charges per hour to give a group class. If he doesn't do this, make him an offer.

2. Start looking for somewhere to hold these classes.

3. Once you have the venue and instructor sorted, decide how much you're going to charge students per class. You'll have to cover the cost of the instructor and the hall, and maybe some insurance.

4 Print some flyers, throw together a website, and post the info here and anywhere else you can get some exposure.

5 Congratulations, you've got your HKD club.

DaBrow

Doug Cartel wrote: »

I am being helpful. I just gave you a viable solution to your problem.

An alternative solution might be for you to get a group of people together and arrange to take privates together and split the cost. You might be able to have these at a time that's more suitable fro your schedule. If this training group takes off, it could lead to a situation where the person giving the classes sets up something more permanent in a more central location.

I don't see what result you expect a facebook group to have. Getting a suitable training location in the city centre is difficult and expensive. No one is going to set something like this up based on a couple of people saying the might train if it becomes available. There's a huge drop out rate for new students so the facebook group would have to be huge in order to contain a viable number of long term students.

Firstly Doug, I practise Karate and reaching the Dan Grade very soon. I'm not qualified to teach any other Art, I'd like to learn an art that is very similar to what I already do but has more techniques to fill in the gaps Wado Ryu has currently.

I know there is demand for Hapkido in Dublin and judging from the economy side of things relating to expense... Dublin is going to become cheaper because it will have to as city in order for it to survive commercially.

Taekwondo classes are taught in Dublin City Centre... I don't see them in trouble. So I don't see what would prevent another Korean Martial Art from sinking before it even gets afloat in the water.

Furious-Dave wrote: »

This is beginning to get on my nerves to honest. DaBrow there's not much that people on here can do to get Hapkido classes with times that suit you to set up in Dublin. Even if we all join your group, it's not going to do much good. Every style in Ireland arrived here by one of three methods (that I can think of). 1. People lived abroad for a few years and trained their style there. When the returned to Ireland they brought their style with them and set up here 2. Foreigners moved to Ireland bringing their styles with them or 3. People here attended seminars from visiting instructors and traveled abroad to train and grade every few months. As I said before, the rent for space in Dublin is massive and probably a major reason why many don't set up here. There's also nothing ridiculous about a particular sport not being available in a particular city. It's not that easy for people to just up an move to an island in the Atlantic. I could moan about BJJ being the only submission wrestling style (that I know of) that has any decent representation in Ireland, and start campaigning for more Luta Livre and Catch Wrestling clubs. But it doesn't bother me at all and even then moaning won't achieve anything.
Anyway, why don't you go to the Hapkido forum on Martial Arts Planet and talk to people there. You'll probably get more help there than on here. http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

Furious Dave, I spoke with a guy (The UK Secretary of a School based in 4 Countries) who said that if there were 30 people whom hand over heart said they would want a seminar held by their Instructor over in Ireland... It would be booked and if there was demand for classes...

Then they would take further steps... All I am asking is for people to show their support by joining the group link on page 1 and convince potential schools that Dublin is a safe bet to establish something.

DaBrow

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Wait I've got it!

1. Phone up the guy in Bray, find out how much he charges per hour to give a group class. If he doesn't do this, make him an offer.

2. Start looking for somewhere to hold these classes.

3. Once you have the venue and instructor sorted, decide how much you're going to charge students per class. You'll have to cover the cost of the instructor and the hall, and maybe some insurance.

4 Print some flyers, throw together a website, and post the info here and anywhere else you can get some exposure.

5 Congratulations, you've got your HKD club.

I'll consider that Doug Thank you....

I think GrandMaster Ghorbhanni has enough on his plate from his timetable, but I'm sure he has some very brilliant students that are qualified to teach and they probably live in Dublin too.

I'll do that when I can

Furious-Dave

DaBrow wrote: »

Furious Dave, I spoke with a guy (The UK Secretary of a School based in 4 Countries) who said that if there were 30 people whom hand over heart said they would want a seminar held by their Instructor over in Ireland... It would be booked and if there was demand for classes...

Then they would take further steps... All I am asking is for people to show their support by joining the group link on page 1 and convince potential schools that Dublin is a safe bet to establish something.

Fair enough. I've no interest in Hapkido myself but I hope it works out for you.

Doug Cartel

DaBrow wrote: »

Firstly Doug, I practise Karate and reaching the Dan Grade very soon.

Good for you.

I'm not qualified to teach any other Art,

What's that got to do with anything?

I'd like to learn an art that is very similar to what I already do but has more techniques to fill in the gaps Wado Ryu has currently.

This actually doesn't make much sense to me, but I suppose that's another thread's discussion.

I know there is demand for Hapkido in Dublin

You know, or you think? Quote me some figures, and tell me how you calculated them.

and judging from the economy side of things relating to expense... Dublin is going to become cheaper because it will have to as city in order for it to survive commercially.

I'm not to great at making economic predictions, so I'll leave that to you.

Taekwondo classes are taught in Dublin City Centre... I don't see them in trouble. So I don't see what would prevent another Korean Martial Art from sinking before it even gets afloat in the water.

The market is saturated, and this new class doesn't have any established students.

unknown13

There is a club in Bray, a half an hour DART ride from Pearse or Tara street and the 145 goes to Bray, which serves the main parts of town and you have the M50 brings you to Bray aswell. Why don't just go to Bray because it is not impossible to get to.

If this was Cork, Limerick or Galway I would understand but Dublin makes no sense when there is a club in Bray.

Ug Lee

Ok, it is very simple. Ask for a private lesson once a week. You can still do your Karate and also fill the gaps with your Hapkido.

Hold on, I know what you are going to say, "I can't afford private lessons"

Boo, fvcking, hoo.

DaBrow

unknown13 wrote: »

There is a club in Bray, a half an hour DART ride from Pearse or Tara street and the 145 goes to Bray, which serves the main parts of town and you have the M50 brings you to Bray aswell. Why don't just go to Bray because it is not impossible to get to.

If this was Cork, Limerick or Galway I would understand but Dublin makes no sense when there is a club in Bray.

Please read the other page... I don't have a car or live on the Dart Line.

I don't know why many people think it's easy to get to Bray from every part of Dublin?

It isn't unless you either live close to there by bus, by car or Dart.

Bray is literally for most Dubliners out of the way

DaBrow

Ug Lee wrote: »

Ok, it is very simple. Ask for a private lesson once a week. You can still do your Karate and also fill the gaps with your Hapkido.

Hold on, I know what you are going to say, "I can't afford private lessons"

Boo, fvcking, hoo.

Ug Lee, grow up and I would like an apology for that nasty spiteful comment... It was unnecessary disrespectful and not needed.

I've said already that Master Ghorbhanni has his hands full judging from his timetable so I doubt he has the time to offer me private lessons...

I will though ask if he has high ranking students that would teach me closer to home and even setup a class.

Dyr

746 bus from collinstown to dunlaoighaire, dart from dunlaoighaire to bray?

But even tom crean wouldnt have dared to undertake such a journey...