Birmingham v Man Utd (Mod warning #112)

Bandit12

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Going to be very tough for United now.

Birmingham are tough to break down at the best of times, and now they have a goal to cling too.

Ferguson really needs to take a proper look at this United side, devoid of spark. My freaking arse there are not players around who could improve this side.

It's only half time but i can see where you are coming from. With Uniteds finances in the toilet is there a chance ferguson would walk at seasons end if he is'nt given the funds? The Ronaldo sale is really coming home to roost now.

PHB

Yeh, I'd go for Scholes and Carrick off, Anderson in the middle with Fletcher, Giggs for Park, and then Diouf up front. Why Diouf? Because Owen aint gona make an impact against this sort of defence.

What I'd expect to happen though is different.

James Forde

Mad_Max wrote: »

Should see giggs coming on after the break.

and diouf too

Bukman13

Mame Diouf on for park second half.

kenon

Very frustrating half.

Johner

Harsh on United.

Birmingham have always played like this, its just with their solid defense this season and a bit of luck upfront it is working.

miralize

bryanjf wrote: »

Kuzcsack is fcuking awful

Wasnt his fault at all. Park should have gotten in front of the Birmingham player.

Mad_Max

Johner wrote: »

Birmingham have always played like this, its just with their solid defense this season and a bit of luck upfront it is working.

It's an irritating style to watch.

flahavaj

Unlucky United. Lets see if they have the creativity to break down the packed defence now.

Bukman13

monkey9 wrote: »

Just reading the first few pages of this thread. Who is Diouf?? A new signing or someone from the reserves?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mame_Biram_Diouf

Bought him during the summer, but stayed on loan at his former club Molde until jan.

Johner

Mad_Max wrote: »

It's an irritating style to watch.

Oh how I know to well, was at St Andrews 3 weeks ago for the match.

Mad_Max

Johner wrote: »

Oh how I know to well, was at St Andrews 3 weeks ago for the match.

Must be torture to sit thorugh live. Don't blame them for playing like it but feck me I despise it.

Johner

Mad_Max wrote: »

Must be torture to sit thorugh live. Don't blame them for playing like it but feck me I despise it.

It's very annoying alright. Joe Hart is some keeper though!

ghouldaddy07

why did we even bother signing own to just leave him sitting on the bench on days like today were once again one striker is not working, if giggs isnt on for park at the start of the second half its game over.

nullzero

If United continue this form they could be finishinh outside the top four.
What is the problem? Even if you cant beat Birmingham, you shoudln't be losing to them.
It looks like a complete overhaul of the squad is needed based on the last few games.

Johner

nullzero wrote: »

If United continue this form they could be finishinh outside the top four.
What is the problem? Even if you cant beat Birmingham, you shoudln't be losing to them.
It looks like a complete overhaul of the squad is needed based on the last few games.

Ah come on you are over-reacting!

kenon

nullzero wrote: »

It looks like a complete overhaul of the squad is needed based on the last few games.

Thats very dramatic altogether. We're playing well and were dominating the game, Birmingham seemed to have one attack and scored.

Fuhrer

nullzero wrote: »

If United continue this form they could be finishinh outside the top four.
What is the problem? Even if you cant beat Birmingham, you shoudln't be losing to them.
It looks like a complete overhaul of the squad is needed based on the last few games.

Trolling much?


United have been all over Birmingham with nearly 70% possesion for the entire half,

Birmingham got lucky scoring with their second shot.

Iago

The sheer lack of knowledge or sense on this forum staggers me at times, this thread is a perfect example of it.

keane2097

One striker on the pitch for United is an absolute disgrace tbh.

Mad_Max

nullzero wrote: »

If United continue this form they could be finishinh outside the top four.
What is the problem? Even if you cant beat Birmingham, you shoudln't be losing to them.
It looks like a complete overhaul of the squad is needed based on the last few games.

Drama or what.

Outside top 4? Christ almighty.

They've drawn with liverpool chelsea and city and oh yeah.... It's only half time!

Kev_ps3

nullzero wrote: »

If United continue this form they could be finishinh outside the top four.
What is the problem? Even if you cant beat Birmingham, you shoudln't be losing to them.
It looks like a complete overhaul of the squad is needed based on the last few games.

We'll finish in the top 4 but we wont win another trophy with this squad.

eagle eye

Well after watching that first half I predict United buy a new keeper before January is out.

Trizo

read this on the caf thought it sums up the first half pretty well -

"That half was like being in first place for nearly the entire race in Mario Kart and getting hit by the blue shell."

An Citeog

Mr Alan wrote: »

its not just that though, he doesnt like to overpay for players either.

Des wrote: »

he overpaid for Berbatov.

It's just a hunch but I think Mr Alan may be being slightly disingenuous here!

Mitch Connor wrote: »

well, shouldn't be manager of united then - United ALWAYS have to over pay.

This is possibly one of the most pathetic posts I've read on here. Fergie shouldn't be manager of United?:rolleyes:

As for Kuszczak, he's a great shot-stopper but has zero command of his area and panics every time the ball comes to his feet.

Dacelonid

ghouldaddy07 wrote: »

why did we even bother signing own to just leave him sitting on the bench on days like today were once again one striker is not working.

Totally agree. I know we didn't fork out any money for him, but it is still a waste to have him doing nothing. We need another striker on the pitch more than we need 5 midfielders, take off Park for Owen, and give us a chance to score and go onto to win it

nullzero

Johner wrote: »

Ah come on you are over-reacting!

Not really.
It doesn't make sense to play a lone striker against a defence like Birmingham.
What's the probelm with Berbatov and Owen?
Our defence is a shamble's, our keeper's are all over the place.
There's no stability.
Take Rooney out of our squad and we'd be lower than Liverpool right now.
There's big problems at United, a combination of aging stars and players who just haven't ever shown the required quality, ie: Park, Anderson, Nani etc...
It's time to get some quality in, otherwise we could be struggling for years, a la Liverpool.

~Rebel~

I haven't gotten to watch the first half, but the amount of people on here throwing in the towel at half time, considering it a lost game seems nuts - you're man utd for christ sakes and however much i dislike it, you have an incredible knack for turning games around that start badly and getting not only the draw, but the win. They may or may not do that today, but theres still 45 mins left to wait and see!

Mad_Max

eagle eye wrote: »

Well after watching that first half I predict United buy a new keeper before January is out.

Based on Birmingham having how many shots?

Pig can be blamed but only after Park and Evans.

KittyeeTrix

What's the scare now??:)

Sorry, I meant to ask what is the score now??

nullzero

Mad_Max wrote: »

Drama or what.

Outside top 4? Christ almighty.

They've drawn with liverpool chelsea and city and oh yeah.... It's only half time!

Last season I would have agreed with you.
This season there's good reason to be pesimistic.

davyjose

Iago wrote: »

The sheer lack of knowledge or sense on this forum staggers me at times, this thread is a perfect example of it.

Thankfully we have super, awesome mods to let us know how much we suck :rolleyes:

Mad_Max

nullzero wrote: »

Last season I would have agreed with you.
This season there's good reason to be pesimistic.

Well I can't argue then. You have logic on your side.

Bandit12

nullzero wrote: »

Not really.
It doesn't make sense to play a lone striker against a defence like Birmingham.
What's the probelm with Berbatov and Owen?
Our defence is a shamble's, our keeper's are all over the place.
There's no stability.
Take Rooney out of our squad and we'd be lower than Liverpool right now.
There's big problems at United, a combination of aging stars and players who just haven't ever shown the required quality, ie: Park, Anderson, Nani etc...
It's time to get some quality in, otherwise we could be struggling for years, a la Liverpool.

Yeah but we win Champions leagues when we struggle for years

eagle eye

keane2097 wrote: »

One striker on the pitch for United is an absolute disgrace tbh.

I don't think it is to be fair, its the centre of the park where United are weakest this season. You are giving Birmingham room if you only play two in midfield. The biggest problem for United is that lack of communication on either flank. Park does not work well with Evra and Rafael does not work well with Valencia.

nullzero

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I haven't gotten to watch the first half, but the amount of people on here throwing in the towel at half time, considering it a lost game seems nuts - you're man utd for christ sakes and however much i dislike it, you have an incredible knack for turning games around that start badly and getting not only the draw, but the win. They may or may not do that today, but theres still 45 mins left to wait and see!

We've been papering over the cracks this season and we're starting to get found out now. It's time to get some top class players in. I knwo the finances aren't great, but they'll be worse when we cant qualify for the Champions League in a couple of years time, or even this year.

Mr Alan

Iago is right tbh.

And Des, the overpaying comment was tongue in cheek based on Fergusons recent comments.

and by the wayim starting to think the internet is playing a huge part in destroying football.

Mitch Connor

well, this has been a terrible start to the second half. shocking stuff from united.

nullzero

Birmingham already showing the correct attitude in the second half.
Showing no undue respect to a poor side.
They're taking the game to United now, just like Leed's did last week:(

miralize

Get park off. Obertan, owen and diouf on!

Mitch Connor

An Citeog wrote: »

It's just a hunch but I think Mr Alan may be being slightly disingenuous here!



This is possibly one of the most pathetic posts I've read on here. Fergie shouldn't be manager of United?:rolleyes:

As for Kuszczak, he's a great shot-stopper but has zero command of his area and panics every time the ball comes to his feet.

yeah - way to get the context all wrong.

If Ferguson refuses to 'overpay' for players he will never sign anyone.

flahavaj

Bandit12 wrote: »

Yeah but we win Champions leagues when we struggle for years

WRONG.:)

KittyeeTrix

What's the score??

FearDark

Had brum/utd ft/ht at 25-1...

Feck sake, Im cheering Utd on for once :mad:

Mitch Connor

this is terrible to watch. Absolutely nothing from United. No creativity, no spark. Lack of movement. Just horrible stuff.

_blank_

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

What's the score??

1-0 to Birmingham City

PHB

The sheer amount of people who are calling for players who aren't in the match squad or who are injuried to be playing is just utterly unreal.

nullzero

Christ on a bike, United are falling apart here.

redout

When is Fergie going to realise we have no creative spark in midfield ?

I agree with the others. Its time to splash the cash and get in some quality.

Yoann Gourcuff is a realistic target (though cup tied CL)

mike65

Brum 8 - 0 Utd