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SF lose another councillor

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    #32
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    Maybe he just grew up a little- there's a reason why Sinn Fein are popular in college campuses and then people grow out of them when they actually have a look at their bigotry, anti- EU stance and crazy economic suicide policies like hyper corporation tax and rent controls.

    They have a dangerous ideology that people grow out of when they learn that the world is better with compromise and mutual respect.

    Put simply you haven't a clue. This notion that Sinn Féin's current stagnation and deterioration in the south is as a result of "people rejecting their communist ideology" or whatever crap is simply pure b*llocks. Similarly it ignores the fact that Sinn Féin in 2004 were extremely popular and at their most radical, it is only when they jettisoned leftist politics in 2007 with a view to hopping into coalition with Fianna Fáil that their southern project began to collapse.

    The fact is that Sinn Féin was initially popular because of the hard work of its activists on the ground, and because it was the only party that provided a radical voice or any semblance of an alternative between the tweedledee and tweedledum parties in the south. Unfortunately, Sinn Féin has now tried to re-invent itself as a greener version of Labour, and tried to poisition itself slightly left of centre, and to its detriment it is learning that that space is already full. Instead of concentrating on what made them popular in the first place they engaged in complete political oppurtunism, beginning with their budget u-turn in 2007. The fact Mary Lou McDonald lost her seat as an incumbent and VP of Sinn Féin to Joe Higgins who ran on a shoe-string tells its own story. Similarly you also have the case of many grassroots activists within Sinn Féin walking or simply drifiting away.

    In Dublin Sinn Féin have lost one councillor to Éirigi, one possibly to Labour and their best known councillor, Christy Burke is going independent. They are under severe pressure from the SWP in Aengus Ó Snódaigh's constituancy; personally I think the future does not bode well for them.


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    #33
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Confirmed that he has joined Labour

    http://www.labour.ie/press/listing/1263220069166454.html

    Some interesting analysis

    http://neilward.ie/2010/01/sinn-fein-problems-in-dublin/
    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/95419
    http://sinnfeinkeepleft.blogspot.com/2010/01/killian-fordes-analysis-of-problems.html

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #34
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    but socialism and money dont really mix.

    can i quote you on that in a parallel thread?


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    #35
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Johnnymcg wrote: »
    Confirmed that he has joined Labour

    http://www.labour.ie/press/listing/1263220069166454.html

    Some interesting analysis

    http://neilward.ie/2010/01/sinn-fein-problems-in-dublin/
    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/95419
    http://sinnfeinkeepleft.blogspot.com/2010/01/killian-fordes-analysis-of-problems.html

    He is a waste of space in a political sense. I cannot wait to see him gone. But time will tell. its just so unfortunate the locals are so far away.
    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    can i quote you on that in a parallel thread?

    I still like the man I always will unless you can prove without useing links provided by the cia why I should not.


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    #36
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    I still like the man I always will unless you can prove without useing links provided by the cia why I should not.

    yeh :rolleyes:

    the Guardian (a leftie newspaper), BBC,AP/Google, Human Rights Watch Organization,WSJ are all CIA controlled?


    "i see"

    sarcasm++


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