When did it become ok to joke about rape?

Fanny Wank

Jessibelle wrote: »

I may be reacting in an over-sensitive manner to this, so thought I'd throw it out to boardsies for opinions, but when did it become ok to joke about rape?
I've noticed recently, particularly with people I work with that would say be maybe 5-6 years younger than me, that they'd say something jokingly like 'God, she was so hot I could have raped her there and then' or 'If I was left alone with him i would have raped him'
Now it bothers me, and enough so that I've said it a few times that I'd rather they didn't joke like that around me, and if it occurs, usually I just leave or ignore it, but tbh, I can't see the humour in it at all. Am I just being an old fuddy at 29?

Have you ever seen "The Accused"?

Fighting Irish

I will laugh at pretty much anything.

What do the PC heads think about laughing at prison rape jokes?

Snowie

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I will laugh at pretty much anything.

What do the PC heads think about laughing at prison rape jokes?

I hear ya.

My friends my self included, say sinsiter things to the girls in our group like here drink this .... and make it look like where sprinkling things into there drink.

We take the piss out of all race's, we mock anything and everything, the same way a comidan will.
its funny and we laugh at it, when where watching csi as group where ccheering the killer on......

yet where all morally sound we just take the piss out of anything wrong, for god sake watch south park thats even worse... Bu then again we could almost blame that as the source of a twisted sense of humor but its funny we 'd laugh if, some one came over and started mouthing of at what we where saying wed winde them up so much that theyd ened up attacking us.....We dont care....

As long as we can laugh..

while yes in an ideal world people wouldnt make racistjokes rape jokes or any other kinda wrong joke but they do... it just one of those things...

Boston

Blacey wrote: »

If you extend the logic of the rape culture argument, then maybe it does. However, it's not the point right now.
Here is a link to help you understand my point

I read that and had an initial response typed up, then I clicked on a link and came across these two accounts (1 and 2)of male prison rape in the states. We all know that male rape is prolific in American correctional facilities. It's accepted and a complete joke no one takes seriously. We know it happens all the time. Everything I've ever read points to it being tacitly approved of by the justice system in america. If you're imprisoned, you will be assaulted or assault others.

Boston

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

My friends my self included, say sinsiter things to the girls in our group like here drink this .... and make it look like where sprinkling things into there drink.

Personally mate, if you tried that with me the contents of the pint would be in your face, probably followed by the glass. I get that you find it hilarious fuking about with other people, but how do they feel about it, or do you think about that?

You're "Its ok as long as its funny" stance is as ridiculous as the "Some things you never joke about" stance. Worse actually since you're more likely to offend and upset.

dan_d

Ooh, I like this one. I have a major problem with using the word "rape" in any situation other than it's intended for. And I work in a job where people above me use the phrase "such and such raped me over the state of things during the meeting today". (they are mainly men). I don't care whether I'm sensitive or not. I don't like it. I don't normally have very strong opinions on things, but this I do. I also think that men use it out of context more than women, because most men haven't the first idea what it truly means to a woman. ( I know it happens to men too, but let's face it, more common the other way around).
Another one I've heard is "abortion" out of context. Usually referring to something that's been done badly or is in a mess - "that's an abortion". I also have a problem with that. Just because - I don't know, I don't have very strong opinions on abortion but I do think again, that used by men in that context is something I've a problem with, because they haven't really got the first clue what it's like in reality.

So yeah, call me feminist, sensitive, whatever, I don't care. I've a problem with those 2 words being used like that. And as far as I'm concerned I'm perfectly entitled to.

~nop~

If we make rape something we can joke about we also make it something we can talk about. One of the big issues that surrounds rape is the fact that the victims feel that it is a taboo issue in society and therefore many continue to suffer in silence, but freedom of speech and of topic involves opening subjects up to all kinds of discussion in society, and stopping a subject from being a taboo one and making it an issue that is more accepted as a common one by the masses means that it must not be something that everyone goes silent at the mention of, therefore promoting healthy discussion and acceptance.

speedboatchase

Boston wrote: »

Personally mate, if you tried that with me the contents of the pint would be in your face, probably followed by the glass. I get that you find it hilarious fuking about with other people, but how do they feel about it, or do you think about that?

You're saying you would glass someone over an (ill-advised) attempt at humour? Not sure who the joker is in this scenario, you sound like a bit of a scumbag to be honest

Silverfish

speedboatchase wrote: »

You're saying you would glass someone over an (ill-advised) attempt at humour? Not sure who the joker is in this scenario, you sound like a bit of a scumbag to be honest

I believe the point is seeing someone sprinkling something into your drink cannot always be perceived as a joke. If you saw it, how are you to know whether they were sprinkling something, or just joking. Either way, only funny to the person doing it.

Also I would suggest, once again, that you read the charter.

fatmammycat

~nop~ wrote: »

If we make rape something we can joke about we also make it something we can talk about. One of the big issues that surrounds rape is the fact that the victims feel that it is a taboo issue in society and therefore many continue to suffer in silence, but freedom of speech and of topic involves opening subjects up to all kinds of discussion in society, and stopping a subject from being a taboo one and making it an issue that is more accepted as a common one by the masses means that it must not be something that everyone goes silent at the mention of, therefore promoting healthy discussion and acceptance.

Rubbish, you can talk about rape without turning it into a stupid joke. I love how 'PC' and 'freedom of speech' has been hijacked to encompass being insulting and being an crude oaf.

speedboatchase

Silverfish wrote: »

I believe the point is seeing someone sprinkling something into your drink cannot always be perceived as a joke. If you saw it, how are you to know whether they were sprinkling something, or just joking. Either way, only funny to the person doing it.

Also I would suggest, once again, that you read the charter.

Well I personally found it offensive that someone can basically just say "if you did that to me I'd glass you" to another person in this thread and no-one bats an eye-lid. Of course that doesn't count as personal abuse to another poster according to you, just my post

Silverfish

I see it as a discussion of a hypothetical situation rather than an outright threat.

If you have an issue with a post, please use the report post function rather than resorting to name calling.

Thank you.

Boston

speedboatchase wrote: »

You're saying you would glass someone over an (ill-advised) attempt at humour? Not sure who the joker is in this scenario, you sound like a bit of a scumbag to be honest

Most people are raped by friends and associates. Putting something in someone elses drinks and telling them its a date rape drug is assault and you can be arrested for it. Assault is all about the perception of a threat, the threat need not have been real. Maybe I am a scumbag, or maybe I realise that the only thing funnier to someone who likes to joke about spiking a drink, is actually doing it. I've never tolerated people interfering with my drinks, jokingly or otherwise. It's a fantastic way to ruin someone's night out.

pickarooney

Thaedydal wrote: »

I think it's a trickle down from certain types of online games, I started hearing it used by counter strike players about 10 years ago and have heard it this year from young halo players who tend to be male.

Yes language is organic and shifts and changes but there had to be a line and using that verb about other things lessens the impact of the word and what it really means and its not something I do and the unthinking use of it by people I find shocking and saddening.

'rape' as a verb has had a far broader meaning than 'forced sexual intercourse' for centuries. It has always had the meaning of pillage/plunder in the context of attacking a city, long before teenagers began (re-)using it for similar.

Not to mention the plant...


edit: didn't realise this thread was old, clicked in from an outside link

Thomas828

My opinion on this subject is quite plain. Rape is nothing to joke about. It's the most heinous crime you could commit. And people who make jokes about rape have no tact, no taste and no respect. Even blasphemy isn't as sickening as jokes about rape.