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Running out of novel things to do now you've turned 18? Look no further!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    Piste wrote: »
    Yay it's great to see such a positive response! I was thinking of organising a blood drive in college, but seeing as about 75% of the students are foreign, they probably wouldn't be eligible (most of this 75% come from malarial regions). Might look into it after the exams.

    that sounds awesome piste! i reckon go ahead with it, and whoever'll donate will donate.

    and fair play to any and all of ye in this thread that've donated, im well impressed! it's one of those things ive always wanted to do, but can't because i had a few transfusions as a chiddler, and consequently can't guarantee that my blood's safe :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    The Walsho wrote: »
    I thought seven seemed a bit odd, since I remember being in the higher end of the teens! I can't quite remember what the minimum level required is though.

    It should be 14, depending on the reference range they use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Moromaster


    I'm too well traveled unfortunatly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    I can definitely recommend this to anyone eligible. Finally got around to it back in November (I'm 20) and will be going again soon. I'm bad with needles, really bad. I'll feel sick if I glimpse one in a medical drama, but this is so much more important.

    I looked in the opposite direction any time they were doing anything with my arm, which was funny when they were only washing it before they put the needle in. I had to go in twice because the first time they couldn't get me to bleed on my left arm and I felt a bit weak (more than likely psychological considering I hadn't lost any blood!) so they didn't want to try my right arm straight away.

    Anyway, point is, if you have a fear of needles you can still donate. Explain it to them when you arrive, I'm sure it happens all the time. Go with friends if you can, much better experience. Oh, and make sure to go pale afterwards to get the maximum of food. =P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    I was talking to my mam about the exact same thing last week. My eighteenth will be spent in town, but instead of going totally blotto, I'll give blood. If you can, you should do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    CTYIgirl wrote: »
    I was talking to my mam about the exact same thing last week. My eighteenth will be spent in town, but instead of going totally blotto, I'll give blood. If you can, you should do it.

    And then get nice and drunk?
    Remember, the less blood you have the easier it is to get drunk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Ugh. I walked all the way from Deanshall to St. Finbarr's Hospital on Douglas road, which took about half an hour, filled out the form, and was all ready to give blood when I remembered something in the folder I read. I had low blood pressure a few years ago and got a load of blood tests to see if there was anything wrong, and it turns out there wasn't. I mentioned this because the folder said I was supposed to. I had my blood pressure taken and was then pretty much guaranteed I'd faint if I gave blood.

    So unless my blood pressure remarkably rises in the next while, I won't be giving blood in case I pass out, and potentially hurt myself badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    I think I mgiht be in the same boat,I had a period where I would pass out when I stood up quickly.

    If not,Then WOOT! less than 3 weeks 'til I can give blood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    Jay P wrote: »
    Ugh. I walked all the way from Deanshall to St. Finbarr's Hospital on Douglas road, which took about half an hour, filled out the form, and was all ready to give blood when I remembered something in the folder I read. I had low blood pressure a few years ago and got a load of blood tests to see if there was anything wrong, and it turns out there wasn't. I mentioned this because the folder said I was supposed to. I had my blood pressure taken and was then pretty much guaranteed I'd faint if I gave blood.

    So unless my blood pressure remarkably rises in the next while, I won't be giving blood in case I pass out, and potentially hurt myself badly.

    Aww, that's annoying =( I have slightly lower than normal blood pressure but it was ok. They used to always take blood pressure but then stopped because too many people would be turned away with high blood pressure, when it was really just due to nervousness.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭degausserxo


    I think I mgiht be in the same boat,I had a period where I would pass out when I stood up quickly.



    Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew.












    sorry for lowering the tone again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    I think I mgiht be in the same boat,I had a period where I would pass out when I stood up quickly.

    If not,Then WOOT! less than 3 weeks 'til I can give blood

    I went through that in TY, so I got loads of tests done to see was I alright, which I am.

    It's still feckin going over three years later


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭IronGirl92


    Wish I could :( But apparently they don't like the iron-less blood! Hopefully someday it'll come up to the level it needs to be though! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    IronGirl92 wrote: »
    Wish I could :( But apparently they don't like the iron-less blood! Hopefully someday it'll come up to the level it needs to be though! :rolleyes:

    I find your username very ironic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    Gave blood yesterday evening, am hoping to switch over to donating platelets instead if I'm suitable. Signed up for that so hopefully I shall get called for an interview soon. \o/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭IronGirl92


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    I find your username very ironic.

    :rolleyes: Irony is what I aimed for


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    IronGirl92 wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Irony is what I aimed for

    Lolcano!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,532 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Jay P wrote: »
    Lolcano!

    Lolcano? Never heard that, but thats quality!

    About blood donation, yeah I do platelets, tis handy enough. Only one or two mishaps over time(collapsed vein once and otehr time think body was still wrecked from severely long flight). Always do try and do it though, and like to encourage others to aswell. Worthy cause, and ya can step up on the moral high-horse from time to time:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    just wondering about this: I'm 18 in 2 weeks,and the FAQ says you need to be 18 to give blood,just wondering can I get a start on the paperwork before hand[they need to do blood tests etc. beforehand don't they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    just wondering about this: I'm 18 in 2 weeks,and the FAQ says you need to be 18 to give blood,just wondering can I get a start on the paperwork before hand[they need to do blood tests etc. beforehand don't they?

    nope, no head start needed. Paperwork is done on the day and they take the blood samples at the same time as they take your donation =) you'll just have to wait in suspense I'm afraid =P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Aoibheann wrote: »
    Gave blood yesterday evening, am hoping to switch over to donating platelets instead if I'm suitable. Signed up for that so hopefully I shall get called for an interview soon. \o/
    Why so? Is that easier/quicker?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    oh great thanks,I was expecting to wait a few months before my first donation[in which time I would more than likely have forgotten about it]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    jumpguy wrote: »
    Why so? Is that easier/quicker?

    No, platelets are in high demand. The process is much different to just giving blood and it takes a whole lot longer, so not as many people donate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    jumpguy wrote: »
    Why so? Is that easier/quicker?

    Nah, it takes 55 minutes + apparently. It means I can donate more frequently (the platelets are essentially filtered out and you get the rest of the blood back, so you don't have to wait the 3 months like you usually do for the erythrocytes/red blood cells count to improve again) and they're always looking for people to donate them. I want to help, and it doesn't cost me anything, except a couple of hours every month or two, so why not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    Aoibheann wrote: »
    Nah, it takes 55 minutes + apparently. It means I can donate more frequently (the platelets are essentially filtered out and you get the rest of the blood back, so you don't have to wait the 3 months like you usually do for the erythrocytes/red blood cells count to improve again) and they're always looking for people to donate them. I want to help, and it doesn't cost me anything, except a couple of hours every month or two, so why not?

    Do you get more free cookies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    phlegms wrote: »
    Do you get more free cookies?

    Entirely possible! Chocolate yesterday. Delicious chocolate. \o/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    I got a free crunchie and taytos and I didn't even give blood! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Halpin94


    Drank all the booze your liver can handle? Bought ciagarettes even though you don't smoke, just cos you could? Played the Lotto when you knew you had no chance of winning? Voted? Got a credit card? Seems like there's one thing left to complete your list of things you can now legally do, give blood.

    I thought the last thing would be to go get a full driver's licence...
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    Halpin94 wrote: »

    I thought the last thing would be to go get a full driver's licence...
    icon6.gif

    Can be done when your 17. Had mine 7 months to the day pretty much after I turned 17.

    OT, I went to give blood, but my blood flow was too slow and they only managed to get enough for the test bag :o. That was a few weeks ago and they said I can try again in about a month because it wasn't a full donation, so I'm definitely planning on going back soon. Was told to make sure I drink about 2 liters of water before I go on the day, as this should help. Hopefully that'll work anyway, I definitely want to become a regular donor, even if my blood type is the most common (O+).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    In was due back in on Monday but I kept forgetting to go all this week, I'll have to pop in next Monday. Hopefully my iron is ok this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Still haven't gotten around to donating :( Bad Neurotic, bad bad Neurotic...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭banjopaul


    Anyone know a way to work out when you can give blood again? Do they text you? I vaguely remember giving them my number, I should be good to donate again any day now I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,532 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    banjopaul wrote: »
    Anyone know a way to work out when you can give blood again? Do they text you? I vaguely remember giving them my number, I should be good to donate again any day now I think.

    Well its every 3 months. So if ya know when the date of last donation was, then go ahead from that date up 3 months. If its not a permanent clinic, they normally only come around every 3 months to the same place, as it'd make most sense that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    So I decided that it'd be nice to resurrect this thread, see if a few more people haven't turned 18 and are stuck for things to do. :pac: I had permission to drag it up, swears!

    I was on the bus home after giving blood today, and while on the phone talking about said donation I was thinking about the stats. Thing is, roughly only 3% of the population give blood. ~25% of us will need a transfusion at some point in our lives, from what I've been told by the IBTS in the past. Doesn't really seem fair, does it? Of course, some people can't give blood for various reasons and circumstances - but many choose not to. I'm not here to rant about those who don't, because their choice isn't my business. I'd just like to play devil's advocate here and ask - do the people who are eligible to give blood, but choose not to, deserve a transfusion if they don't donate themselves (I'd like to say that I don't necessarily think this, I'm curious as to what others think!)?

    Moving on from that - what about organ donations? Should you be eligible to receive an organ if you're not willing to be an organ donor yourself? Should we be automatically opted-in, with an opt-out clause that states that you're ruling yourself out from being eligible for a donation if you choose to remove yourself from the list?

    Apologies if I'm not explaining myself properly, this idea is only a recent one. So what do you all think? I'll post my own opinion on it once I have one that makes sense.

    If anyone has any other thoughts/opinions in general on blood/platelet/marrow/organ donation, please share! I'm considering the marrow registry (my veins are too bendy for giving platelets, apparently >_<), so if anyone knows anything about the process, I'd love to hear about it.

    Oh, and if the mods want to move/split discussion or whatever, go ahead - this just seemed the most appropriate thread.

    Give blood! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    I can't give blood even if I was 18 because I'm under the weight limit :( Why is there a weight limit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    I can't give blood even if I was 18 because I'm under the weight limit :( Why is there a weight limit?

    I'm not sure, but I'll hazard a guess at this one. Everyone donates the same, standard amount of blood - roughly a pint. It's not adjusted according to your weight etc. Also, it would be losing a larger percentage of blood for a smaller person, so a lot of side-effects could kick in - fainting, nausea, not to mention more serious ones. Not to say these don't happen to some people anyway, it'd just be more common the lighter you are, after losing a considerable amount of blood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Aoibheann wrote: »
    I'm not sure, but I'll hazard a guess at this one. Everyone donates the same, standard amount of blood - roughly a pint. It's not adjusted according to your weight etc. Also, it would be losing a larger percentage of blood for a smaller person, so a lot of side-effects could kick in - fainting, nausea, not to mention more serious ones. Not to say these don't happen to some people anyway, it'd just be more common the lighter you are, after losing a considerable amount of blood.

    Better not get in any car crashes then, I'd be screwed if I lost any blood :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    Aoibheann wrote: »
    I was on the bus home after giving blood today, and while on the phone talking about said donation I was thinking about the stats. Thing is, roughly only 3% of the population give blood. ~25% of us will need a transfusion at some point in our lives, from what I've been told by the IBTS in the past. Doesn't really seem fair, does it? Of course, some people can't give blood for various reasons and circumstances - but many choose not to. I'm not here to rant about those who don't, because their choice isn't my business. I'd just like to play devil's advocate here and ask - do the people who are eligible to give blood, but choose not to, deserve a transfusion if they don't donate themselves (I'd like to say that I don't necessarily think this, I'm curious as to what others think!)?

    That is something to think about alright, I feel quite strongly about giving blood/organ donation, I think donating blood is something everyone should do at least once. I went a while ago and a few friends came with me, I think 6 of us went, and 2 chickened out, because they were afraid of needles/just too creeped out by the idea, one person was told they were ineligible at the time and to come back, 2 of us could only give part donations, so out of 6 of us who went, only 1 completely successful donation was given. Only 2 of us have gone back since, me and the other person who did it successfully. I think even though it is completely necessary to go through all the procedures, that it does turn some people off a bit. I just do it though, I don't know why, it's just something I've always said I'll do, and when I turned 18 I did, even though I hate needles and have quite low blood pressure, I do it anyway. I've nearly fainted before, but an hour or so out of my time every few months, that could save someone elses life, why wouldn't I do it.
    Moving on from that - what about organ donations? Should you be eligible to receive an organ if you're not willing to be an organ donor yourself? Should we be automatically opted-in, with an opt-out clause that states that you're ruling yourself out from being eligible for a donation if you choose to remove yourself from the list?

    I completely agree with this. I think that unless someone has major objections to their organs being donated that they should be automatically registered. My opinion on organ donation is, I'm as good as dead, I'm not using them, I may as well hopefully prolong someone elses life. I can't think of a much better last act that I'll do before I die. I understand that people don't like the idea that your heart has to still be beating to donate organs, i.e. you are technically still alive, although, it is usually when you are brain dead and have no hope of ever waking up again.

    If anyone has any other thoughts/opinions in general on blood/platelet/marrow/organ donation, please share! I'm considering the marrow registry (my veins are too bendy for giving platelets, apparently >_<), so if anyone knows anything about the process, I'd love to hear about it.

    They were recruiting for marrow donation registration the last time I gave blood. It all seems very extreme to me. The leaflet basically said that it's quite unlikely that you'll ever be called if you are registered. If you are though, it involves a 2 night stay in hospital and going under general anaesthtic. I decided not to register at the time, but I might put my name down in the future, it's not something I'd decide lightly on. There's more info on bone marrow donation here if anybody wants to find out more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I'm trying really hard to figure out what my opinion is on the whole 'should you be eligible to receive an organ if you're not willing to donate' and... I just don't know. I mean, it'd be so hard to let someone die because they didn't wanna be an organ donor, and it'd be so easy for someone to say that they would donate in order to save their own life and then change their mind afterwards.

    Is it fair to place the pressure of having to donate on someone who is more than likely already going through hell with a failing organ? Or, is someone who has suffered organ failure more likely to donate anyway because they know how terrible it is to live waiting?

    Should someone who has liver failure of their own doing (alcoholism etc.) be granted a new liver when it means that someone else in need through no fault of their own is left to die? Who even gets to decide this sort of thing?

    My uncle has kidney failure. He's had one transplant, about twenty years ago and is in need of a second. He'll never be able to have a second transplant though. He has a level of antibodies so high that his body would immediately reject a new organ and the treatment to lower the antibodies would more than likely kill him instantly. So he's living now, on dialysis three times a week and y'know, a time will come when his body can't take it anymore and he will die. He's young, he has a young daughter. Life just isn't fair.

    I've seen my uncle and his family and my own extended family go through a really tough time so I know I'd like to donate my organs. I'd donate mine 'cause I know how shit it is to be in need, and I know how much joy a donated organ can bring. One organ donation doesn't enrich one life, it makes the lives of so many people happier. There are the family of the receiver too, and an organ donation can bring years and years than otherwise would never have been possible.

    I don't know where I stand on the opt in/opt out thing. I think everyone should donate their organs tbph, I don't really get why one would choose not to... but to each their own and all that.


    On the subject of blood donation, I'm not eligible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    I think everyone should be automatically registered unless they write a letter saying they don't want stuff to be donated. I'd donate everything, I'm dead so I'm hardly using it.

    I don't know about the unless you're a donor no organs for you thing, because a lot of people just forget to register.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    Oh, I would love to do this. My mother's a nurse, and both my parents give blood regularly. I've never given blood before, so I wouldn't know what to expect but how bad could it be? I don't even know what blood type I am!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    Oh, I would love to do this. My mother's a nurse, and both my parents give blood regularly. I've never given blood before, so I wouldn't know what to expect but how bad could it be? I don't even know what blood type I am!

    Honestly, it's not too bad. On your first visit, you have to essentially "register". You complete a form (mainly yes/no ticking the box, regular donors have to complete a similar form each time anyway), then you have an interview of sorts - just confirming you're well and healthy and everything on the form, and you'll have the opportunity to ask questions etc should you wish. That interview is for first-time donors and people who haven't donated in a long while. After the interview, you then have the Haemoglobin test. Basically it's like a pin-prick to your finger, the blood is taken and put into a little machine which gives the level in a matter of minutes. For guys, you need to have a level of 14g/dL or above; it's 12g/dL for girls. :) Provided that your levels are sufficiently high (if not, you'll be asked to return in 3 months), you'll then get to the donation part. It's not too painful (just a pinch as the needle goes in, and again when it's taken out), and the donation process only takes a maximum of 15 minutes.


    You get a letter out in the post with (I think) your donor card and that'll have your blood type on it - that's when you find out! :)

    If you've any more questions, feel free to ask!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Y'know what's annoying? You've to be 18 to donate blood.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    jumpguy wrote: »
    Y'know what's annoying? You've to be 18 to donate blood.

    My dad can no longer donate blood because he just went over the age limit. He's still perfectly healthy, but they refused his application.

    Actually something I heard the other week that annoyed me too. Apparently gay men, or at least men who had contact with other men, can't donate blood. A bit unfair, imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 682 ✭✭✭illiop


    Actually something I heard the other week that annoyed me too. Apparently gay men, or at least men who had contact with other men, can't donate blood. A bit unfair, imo.

    Yeah, this really annoys me too. I've only given blood twice but everytime I read the form I cringe a little. In fact, if I remeber correctly (which I may not at all) if a woman has had sex with a man who has had sex with another man, then she should not give blood either. It's completely ridiculous, I know they're just trying to cover their basses but it's just discriminatory and insulting.

    I love giving blood though (not the actual needle bit obviously) it makes me feel all good, especially since I'm kinda afraid of needles so a feel really brave too.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    illiop wrote: »
    Yeah, this really annoys me too. I've only given blood twice but everytime I read the form I cringe a little. In fact, if I remeber correctly (which I may not at all) if a woman has had sex with a man who has had sex with another man, then she should not give blood either. It's completely ridiculous, I know they're just trying to cover their basses but it's just discriminatory and insulting.

    I love giving blood though (not the actual needle bit obviously) it makes me feel all good, especially since I'm kinda afraid of needles so a feel really brave too.:p
    Just makes me feel woozy and trippy :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    Can one donate from exactly when they turn 18 like? I've always wanted to, but I'm not 18 just yet. So yeah 18th birthday donation.. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    I don't see why you wouldn't be able to!


  • Registered Users Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Mollikins


    I’ve wanted to donate blood for ages but living out in the shticks means it’s really hard to get to the clinic when it comes around, which isn’t all that often really.

    I was going to give blood last year in college when they had the mobile clinic there for the day but I wasn’t feeling well at the time so they probably would have sent me away and told me to come back when I was better and I also had zero time as well with lectures and buses to catch and stuff.

    I feel bad though because I could have donated about 7 times by now if I had gone as soon as I turned 18. I’m not a big fan of needles but at the end of the day all it means is a bit of temporary discomfort for me whereas it could be the difference between another person living or dying. Also I’m curious as to what blood type I am.

    I did the little quiz on the giveblood website and from that it appears I’m eligible so I’m going to donate as soon as I get the opportunity again. No excuses.


    Some of the questions Aoibheann posted made me think about aspects of blood and organ donation I wouldn’t previously have thought about really. (Btw good on you Aoibheann for being so dedicated to donating!)

    It’s weird that this thread has appeared because I’ve actually been thinking about organ donation lately, although I’m not really all that sure as to why it has popped into my head. It’s something I fully intend on doing. The way I see it is: I’ll be dead (or as good as.) My organs are viable. I don’t need them anymore. Others do. Desperately. There’s no point in letting perfectly good organs die and just letting them rot in a coffin in the ground. It doesn’t make any sense to me.

    Like Novella said it’s not just the life or lives of those that receive an organ through donation that benefit: It’s the entire family of the ill person that benefit from it. There’s a huge increase in the quality of life for the whole family. Days and weeks that previously would have be wasted in hospital wards, waiting, suddenly don’t have to be. Families that previously couldn’t even go for a normal day out to the zoo or shopping in town - little things we all take for granted without even realising it - can now go on holidays abroad. And those that receive an organ can, obviously, lead much more active lives. Every few weeks you open the paper and read an article about someone that received an organ and how they are relishing their new lease of life and are raising money for organisations that helped them when they were sick by running marathons, cycling all over the country and climbing mountains. They are given a second chance at life and are making the most of it. I know I would much rather see someone raising the money for charity themselves than a loved one doing it in their memory.

    I’m not sure if I agree if it should be compulsory for people to donate blood/organs. I think that overall there should really be more information out there about donating. I can’t remember the last time I saw an ad on the TV about donating blood/organs and it’s not often at all that it gets any mention in other media forms either. If there were more information readily available I think there would be much more people donating blood and carrying donation cards and it wouldn’t be necessary for it to become compulsory. If the government tried to introduce it as being somewhat compulsory I’d say they would be met with a fair bit of backlash from a religion aspect as Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse blood transfusions and it has resulted in deaths and court cases that have been fairly well reported in the media.

    Senator Feargal Quinn submitted a Human Body Organs ad Human Tissue Bill back in September 2008 to much the same affect although I don’t have a clue if there has been any discussion of it since then. (It’s available on oireachtas.ie and is 19 pages long if anyone is interested in reading it.)
    Then there’s the Dunne inquiry into the retention of deceased children’s organs without parents consent during post-mortems. This has left a huge negative impression on an entire generation and from hearing about it in the media the whole time a lot of people would be very cautious about organ donation because of it and I can’t really blame them either as no real answers have been provided in the inquiry as far as I can gather (parentsforjustice.com has more info on this too)

    I wouldn’t really be all that comfortable with an alcoholic receiving a liver transplant before someone who was born with liver problems or developed liver problems due to other illnesses. Alcoholics have a choice in whether they drink or not and people that are born with serious medical conditions that require transplants simply don’t have a choice. (I know some people believe that alcoholism is a disease and that you can inherit it and be genetically predisposed to it etc. etc. but I’ll not get into that because I know nothing about it really and I hope I never will have to and it doesn’t have any place here anyway. At the end of the day someone born with an illness has no choice in the matter and just has to wait for a cure or a suitable organ to be found while damage to the liver caused by excessive alcohol consumption is preventable.)

    I presume that those who do receive transplants have to be sober for a certain time period before they are considered eligible for a transplant and of course there should be proper after care and counselling available to prevent a relapse. In that case I don’t see why an alcoholic shouldn’t be allowed a transplant. For some people it takes hitting rock bottom and almost losing it all for them to really start living again and if an organ is available I don’t see why they should be denied it.

    The same goes for people who don’t carry donation cards or donate blood. If they fall seriously ill or are involved in a life-threatening accident and there are ways of saving them then of course everything should be done to save them. Loads of people don’t think of donating blood or organs until it affects their lives directly and although it’s sad and it shouldn’t be the case, people shouldn’t be left to die when they can be saved.

    Anyway I’ve waffled on far too much but I’ll finish off with some info I discovered through doing a bit of Googling:

    Last Saturday (the 23rd of October) was the 12th European Day for Organ Donation and Transplantation. It is hosted every year by a different member state with the aim of encouraging debate on the topic of organ donation and transplantation and the event was held in Tbilisi in Georgia this year.

    Every year World Blood Donor Day is celebrated on the 14th of June, a date that commemorates the birth of Karl Landsteiner, who discovered the ABO blood group system and won a Nobel Prize for it. Spain hosted this year’s one. WBDD was first held in 2005. It was held in Australia in 2009, Dubai in 2008, Canada in 2007, Thailand in 2006 and the UK in 2005.

    In the EU alone 50,000 people are on a list waiting for an organ donation. Every day, on average, 12 people die while waiting for a transplant.

    A press release on runforalife.ie states that last year 261 people received organs through donations and that there are 600 people still on waiting lists. (This was dated July this year as far as I remember)

    The incidence of Cystic Fibrosis in Ireland – 2.98 per 10,000 – is the worlds highest and it affects about one in every 1,600 children born here. Lung donations are, I would imagine based on that information anyway, are badly needed too, as well as kidney ones.

    Also one last thing. If you are debating whether or not you want to donate blood then do this: On the giveblood.ie website there is a Peoples’ Stories section with about 18 stories detailing each person’s experience with blood donation/transfusions etc. Scroll down to the Brice Family Story which is about fourth from the end and read it and when you have finished reading it look at the picture underneath the text. I dare you not to well up. I gets me every time and it has me convinced to donate anyway. The other stories are well worth a read too.

    That ended up being way longer than I intended and I’m not sure if it makes any sense. I’m awake about 30 hours straight at this stage so apologies if the above is incoherent. :o

    Aaaaaand now I’ll shut up. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever



    I don't know about the unless you're a donor no organs for you thing, because a lot of people just forget to register.

    The thing is, even if you register and have a donor card and everything, it's still the decision of your next of kin when it comes down to it. And even if you don't have a card, they can still choose to donate. The card is essentially about making your wishes known, rather than meaning your organs will automatically be donated.
    jumpguy wrote: »
    Y'know what's annoying? You've to be 18 to donate blood.
    I think if you have parental consent you can do it from the age of 16 on. :) Friend of mine who only turned 18 in September has been giving blood since he was 16.


    I wanna donate my organs (if they're of any use...) when I die. And I'm in favour of an "opt-out" scheme when it comes to organ donation. Not eligible to donate blood though, gragh.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    I gave blood for the first time on Wednesday.

    It went really well, and I'm glad I did it!

    I went to D'Olier Street Clinic.
    I filled out a form.
    Then went into an interview room with a nurse [this only happens first time].
    She tested my haemoglobin level - it has to be >12 to donate, mine was 15.1 so that's fine. Haven't a clue what haemoglobin is though!
    I was sent to get a cold drink beforehand, then was called to give blood.
    They attach the equipment to your arm (hurts slightly going in, otherwise is fine) and you just sit back as the blood is taken - you can't see the bag filling up, which makes sense.
    After this they made me sit on a bed. I was fine for the first few minutes, but I then started to feel very hot, flushed and light-headed. She made me lie down for a few minutes and I was fine then.
    I was sent to the café to get free sandwiches, cold drink and crisps and biscuits etc. I LOVE free stuff, and the view from there is amazing!

    Overall, I would definitely give blood again. It's a lot easier than I thought. And it's quicker when it isn't your first time, apparently, as you don't have to do the interview with the nurse and that.

    I would advise anyone who is eligible to give blood. I've already convinced a few of my friends to do it! Especially if you have a useful blood group, like O neg (universal donor - can be given to anyone in emergencies).


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