Pearse stadium floodlights

jj72

...sooooo everyone agrees im right

extraice

Galway City Tribune Friday feb 05 02 2010

"Forged name : Gardai now say it is a 'Criminal Investigation .

Probe aims to Establish who sined Perese statium Planning document , Gardia have commenced a criminal investigtion into forged signature on letter from the Perese statium , Councillor described the situation surrounding the document as"SCARY" and plan it own There own Investigation .

January 20, 2010
Pearse Stadium Development Committee chairman Frank Burke said that he was “extremely shocked” by the allegation and denied any knowledge of the document in question. He added:

“I have absolutely no knowledge of this document and can say, certainly, that nobody was authorised by our committee to interfere with any document. . . ‘” Its only few hand full off residents that are objecting
when it know that over few hundred residents and associations objecting
to plans off the Stadium . Frank Burke said , lets put it this way.. what ever chance the stadium had of getting lights before the accusation, it has zero to none chance now if this is found true .

no from Gaa are Pearse Stadium decline again to comment on it, Friday feb 05 02 2010

Closed shop the Gaa ?

unJustMary

jj72 wrote: »

Just because there are floodlights doesnt mean that there will be any more games been played?

So if the games are being played already, what do they need the floodlight for? Decoration? Coat-stands?

Starie1975

unJustMary wrote: »

So if the games are being played already, what do they need the floodlight for? Decoration? Coat-stands?

Funny.

GAA our national sport, need to move forward like other main stream sports. i.e. Soccer and rugby. In Galway city both these sports have floodlit stadiums. Two find stadium which I attend.

The reason they we need a floodlit stadium is to move Galway GAA in line with these sports. Not only in our city or county or country but with the rest of the world.

Progress I believe in this case is good.

P.s. Come on the tribes vs Mayo;)

Sponge Bob

Pearse stadium predates ALL the houses around it , it was there before Ard NAMA Mara in the early 60s and Glenard in the late 60s and the ones built to the south in the 1970s. The houses along the north wall were built on former pearse stadium land in the 1990s.

These people all bought houses near Pearse Stadium and saw that there was a stadum there before they bought the houses .....helllOOOO salthill inbreds.

However I would restrict the usage of the floodlights to no more than 8 matches a year after 5pm and if they cannot make a business case for that they can feck off. They would be allowed to do closed squad training too.

As for daytime use there is absolutely no problem if proper parking is enforced. Nobody forced the inbreds to buy a house in salthill. A couple of bylaws and ruthless towaway enforcement and all would be tickety boo.

Arnold Layne

Sponge Bob wrote: »

As for daytime use there is absolutely no problem if proper parking is enforced. Nobody forced the inbreds to buy a house in salthill. A couple of bylaws and ruthless towaway enforcement and all would be tickety boo.

IF proper parking is enforced.

What do you mean by inbreds? Most residents in proximity to the stadium are pensioners

Sponge Bob

Arnold Layne wrote: »

What do you mean by inbreds? Most residents in proximity to the stadium are pensioners

Bred into salthill. They bought a house 40 odd years ago beside a bloody big stadium and managed to forget the stadium was there before they were.

Breeding into salthill makes people complain about what was there before they ever were I find

Arnold Layne

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Inbred into salthill. They bought a house 40 odd years ago beside a bloody big stadium and managed to forget the stadium was there before they were.

Inbreeding into salthill makes people complain about what was there before they ever were I find

People knew about the staium, but SFA happened there. Residents have had to deal with cars parked in front of driveways all the time, but this became part of the 'norm.

The development plans were approved by the Galway Council based on a Park & Ride facility which was never implemened by the GAA. Hence the oppposition to any further development as previous agreemants were ignored.

IMO, the GAA troglodytes are the ones at fault in this instance.

Sconsey

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Pearse stadium predates ALL the houses around it , it was there before Ard NAMA Mara in the early 60s and Glenard in the late 60s and the ones built to the south in the 1970s. The houses along the north wall were built on former pearse stadium land in the 1990s.

Emmm...don't mean to be pedantic but..WRONG, some houses on Rockbarton Road were there before the stadium, not that it matters, which came first is not an issue when considering the impact of a planning application.

Sponge Bob wrote: »

These people all bought houses near Pearse Stadium and saw that there was a stadum there before they bought the houses .....helllOOOO salthill thoroughbreds.

Are you the same Sponge Bob that makes very informative posts on the broadband and infrastructure forums? I had some respect for you before this post, I can only assume your account has been hacked, otherwise you need to up the medication.

biko

Sponge Bob wrote: »

helllOOOO salthill thoroughbreds.

Yellow card, you just knew it was going to rise people didn't you?

Sponge Bob

Magnus wrote: »

Yellow card, you just knew it was going to rise people didn't you?

People BUY a house with a STADIUM outside the front door circa 1960 or 1970 and they are STILL COMPLAINING about it 50 years later. Well I NEVER.

There was a solution for them originally. It was called NEWCASTLE or RENMORE or even DEVON PARK or OAKLANDS for Leitrim matches , but no.

Some mysterious force of nature attracted them to cluster around Pearse Stadium instead. I know what it was and at least I am not afraid to say it.

Sconsey

The story so far......

Against The Lights:
- Negative impact on life
- insufficient planning
- etc.

For The Lights:
- Stadium was there first
- Benefit the large community
- etc.

Sponge Bob:
- INBREDS
- Salthill Inbredddss
- wahhh blahh blahhh Jim Corr blargh blaah

biko

Ok back on topic now please.

Sponge Bob

Pearse is well capable of handling events up to 10,000 persons cars and only a few events are bigger than that every year.

The problem with Pearse as I see it is that too many low grade concerts take place there and floodlights make it even more likely that more will occur, last year they wanted the bloody Eagles but that was credit crunched and in other years we had Wetlife and Andrea Bocelli ....all of whom were rained on thoroughly and Bob Dylan some time. I would still allow one or two such daylight events annually.

I would not be in favour of floodlights being put in so that this sort of low grade crap can occur with any regularity .

I have no issue with floodlights going in so that county finals can take place at 6pm on a friday evening in October if required.

I would also permit Galway squad training any time .

But I would restrict the number of floodlit public events to 8 a year of which 0 would be concerts , and with a minimum 2 weeks notice given of each individual event. I would also use a planning application to force the GAA to participate in a traffic management plan, park and ride for large events like connacht finals with Mayo and providing standby towaways for crap parkers who ignorantly block roads and gates especially at large events.

The simple test should be whether an ambulance can normally go down a road and if there is a match on can they STILL go down that road.

A planning application is the ideal time to insert planning conditions like that. Let it go ahead but let it be known that conditions will be attached to any sucessful application and that these will cover non floodlit events too.

You will PROBABLY find that half the cars towed off are those of the ignorant offspring of the residents who came over to see Mummy in the X5 and dumped it rather than parked it, let it be so

But carrying on as if these people have a natural precedence of some sort over the stadium is a step too far and should not be entertained.

Sconsey

Sponge Bob wrote: »

A planning application is the ideal time to insert planning conditions like that. Let it go ahead but let it be known that conditions will be attached to any sucessful application and that these will cover non floodlit events too.

NEWSFLASH: conditions like those you describe were conditional on the planning granted about 10 years ago, but the local GAA then proceeded to ignore those conditions, why should anyone expect them to follow the conditions in their current application....have you read the whole thread or what?

Sponge Bob wrote: »

You will PROBABLY find that half the cars towed off are those of the ignorant offspring of the residents who came over to see Mummy in the X5 and dumped it rather than parked it, let it be so

But carrying on as if these people have a natural precedence of some sort over the stadium is a step too far and should not be entertained.

You're letting yourself down again with this ignorant rambling, maybe you should keep your notions of the type of people that live in an area to yourself, everyone has a right to object if they disagree with a development, regardless of who they are or where they live, it's up to the planners to decide. 'Natural precedence'? what are you like?

Andrea B.

You will PROBABLY find that half the cars towed off are those of the ignorant offspring of the residents who came over to see Mummy in the X5 and dumped it rather than parked it, let it be so

Brilliant! Classic! Should be be cross-linked to the "Old Glaway" thread!

It's near on 20 years ago since I heard the chip-on-shoulder comments regarding Salthill residents. It's obviously been passed on to you as an offspring of one of those "chipped shoulders".

Sponge Bob

Sconsey wrote: »

NEWSFLASH: conditions like those you describe were conditional on the planning granted about 10 years ago, but the local GAA then proceeded to ignore those conditions, why should anyone expect them to follow the conditions in their current application....have you read the whole thread or what?

I have.

You're letting yourself down again with this ignorant rambling, maybe you should keep your notions of the type of people that live in an area to yourself, everyone has a right to object if they disagree with a development, regardless of who they are or where they live, it's up to the planners to decide. 'Natural precedence'? what are you like?

cremeegg

I need some focus here...

we are where we are... its quite a good point that the soccer and rugby folk have floodlit stadia...and the gaa need to move with the times...

its clear the gaa have acted the king louis XVI on this. but what do we do now...

is there anyway the GAA are going to get the lights in... they are certainly needed... is there a mood amongest the residents to negotiate..???

How many residents are affected.. if we leave all the issues of traffic etc aside and stick to the lights..

WHAT IS THE SOLUTION???!!! Cant we all be friendsss....

Sconsey... lets be 'avin you....:)

Sconsey

cremeegg wrote: »

I need some focus here...

we are where we are... its quite a good point that the soccer and rugby folk have floodlit stadia...and the gaa need to move with the times...

its clear the gaa have acted the king louis XVI on this. but what do we do now...

is there anyway the GAA are going to get the lights in... they are certainly needed... is there a mood amongest the residents to negotiate..???

How many residents are affected.. if we leave all the issues of traffic etc aside and stick to the lights..

WHAT IS THE SOLUTION???!!! Cant we all be friendsss....

Sconsey... lets be 'avin you....:)

Gimmie a break cremeegg, you could just ask me at work tomorrow

Anyway, yeah we are where we are, for me it's kind of like 'fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...." we've been fsked over by the stadium management board more than once on issues like this, try talking to them and you'll either get a stone wall from them or maybe an offer of ticket or two to the next game! not a great solution really.

Rugby and soccer have floodlights? probably much classier operations than the guys running the Pearse, maybe not the same kind of issues, etc.

How many people does it affect....dunno, but I believe there are about 100 individual objections.

I think we are kind of flogging a dead horse here, it's in the hands of the planners now. Seven or eight odd pages of discussion hasn't really changed my views and I doubt it has changed the views of the pro-lights guys either.

unJustMary

cremeegg wrote: »

I need some focus here...

we are where we are... its quite a good point that the soccer and rugby folk have floodlit stadia...and the gaa need to move with the times...

...

is there anyway the GAA are going to get the lights in... they are certainly needed...

So far, all I've heard is "wahhhh .. the kids playing rugby have toys, we want some toooooo ....".

Keeping up with the Jones (hang, on wrong country - what do we say here, Murphys?) is all very well and fine, but what do the GAA need the lights for, if not to play games at times they cannot play them now? Which invalidates the claims that lights won't make anything worse.

dave 27

3fullback wrote: »

Why, what have you got against the odd evening league fixture during the boring old months of january and feb, it would be a great fri or sat night enterainment. i'm talking maybe 4 or 5 games that would be fixed under lights there would be no training , at maybe 2.5hours for each game thats in or around 10hours a year how can anyone disagree with that ?

believe me, you dont want the flood lights! i live in the shadow of the gaelic grounds in Limerick city and when they are on its actually like day time!

the lights are easily over 200 feet high, biggest thing iv seen this side of town and local residents are going mad! not only this thomond park is only up the road so the whole north side of the city is awash with lights at night time! planes flying into shannon must be thinking where the hell all the lights are coming from..





this is before the floodlights were put in, but you get an idea on the proximity to each other

toiletduck

unJustMary wrote: »

So far, all I've heard is "wahhhh .. the kids playing rugby have toys, we want some toooooo ....".

Yeah, well done...

what do the GAA need the lights for, if not to play games at times they cannot play them now?

Not necessarily. Galway/Kerry quarter final 2008 springs to mind.

I was at a match at the weekend in Castlebar (should have been the Saturday under lights, an appeal was made and nothing can happen while under review so it went ahead on the Sunday) and I couldn't help thinking at times that it getting dark enough that they may have been needed.

Which invalidates the claims that lights won't make anything worse.

I really don't see how. There'd be the same amount of matches, just (example) instead of Sunday morning it'd be on Saturday evening.

I know that some business people would love to see this because a lot of trade is missed out on by people heading off to their home county straight afterwards whereas a match finishing at 9.15... well fans are more likely to stick around.

unJustMary

toiletduck wrote: »

There'd be the same amount of matches, just (example) instead of Sunday morning it'd be on Saturday evening.

I know that some business people would love to see this because a lot of trade is missed out on by people heading off to their home county straight afterwards whereas a match finishing at 9.15... well fans are more likely to stick around.

Alleluia!!!! Someone's finally said something that the GAA could leverage to get the residents on side:

If the games were on Saturday evening, fans would have far more incentive to travel on club buses, so they could drink afterwards without worrying about driving. Discounted tickets for fans arriving on an official bus should easily get the punters to sign up for this. And it solves the parking problems.

Before anyone says that hire buses aren't available to leaves places at midnight for arrival back in town (wherever that is) at 1:30am ... yes they are, I was on one just the other week. Some towns even have companies that specialise in hires to concerts and sports events.

(Of course that begs the question of whether anyone would believe any promises made by the GAA to do things like this ... but that's a totally different issue.)

cremeegg

unJustMary wrote: »

So far, all I've heard is "wahhhh .. the kids playing rugby have toys, we want some toooooo ....".

Keeping up with the Jones (hang, on wrong country - what do we say here, Murphys?) is all very well and fine, but what do the GAA need the lights for, if not to play games at times they cannot play them now? Which invalidates the claims that lights won't make anything worse.

I dunno ...i just dont get it... why are you againest the LIGHTS .. i understand the issue with parking .. but surely lighting up the place on a cold winters night is a good thing... what is light polution!? is it just an excuse because you dont want any more games there...


let me pose the question to the "objection folk" ... if the same number of games were promised would you be ok with the lights??

Seriously though.. the lights are needed... you have to move with the times... were in competition with other sports for young folk and supporters....

going to a sat nite game is a great experience and caters for different supporters

unJustMary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_pollution

howyanow

i live in salthill,grew up behind pearse stadium and find the anti salthill residents quips very ammusing i.e bmw x5 etc.we need a venue for gaa matches in the city and we have a great stadium in pearse,the lights would be a great addition and they should keep it to just intercounty matches only as a compromise,3 in football and hurling per season ie league matches early february to early april.id imagine salthill would be a lot safer with these lights on as it would act as a deterent to any trouble makers,some1 had said it would draw wrong crowd in another form of media before.there is a relatively strong gaa community in the vicinity of the stadium even tho salthill is not a well supported club,most club members and supporters that travel to see salthills championship matches live in rockbarton,glenard,ardnamara,threadneedle,dr.mannix road,do these gaa supporters and volunteers not deserve to have these lights here?good to see both sides debating strongly.

dec25532

Agree we should have a floodlit GAA venue in Galway but I don't think Pearse Stadium is it. It is not even a popular daytime venue with most County Galway football and hurling fans. They dread travelling to Salthill for club and county matches because of parking and a lack of atmosphere. They can't wait to get out of the place once the match is over. That coupled with the County Board's controversy over an alleged forged document contained in the planning application means that the green light for the floodlights is remote in any event.

dec25532

dec25532 wrote: »

Agree we should have a floodlit GAA venue in Galway but I don't think Pearse Stadium is it. It is not even a popular daytime venue with most County Galway football and hurling fans. They dread travelling to Salthill for club and county matches because of parking and a lack of atmosphere. They can't wait to get out of the place once the match is over. That coupled with the County Board's controversy over an alleged forged document contained in the planning application means that the green light for the floodlights is remote in any event.

Thanks for speaking on behalf of 10 of thousends of people :rolleyes:

Starie1975

dec25532 wrote: »

Agree we should have a floodlit GAA venue in Galway but I don't think Pearse Stadium is it. It is not even a popular daytime venue with most County Galway football and hurling fans. They dread travelling to Salthill for club and county matches because of parking and a lack of atmosphere. They can't wait to get out of the place once the match is over. That coupled with the County Board's controversy over an alleged forged document contained in the planning application means that the green light for the floodlights is remote in any event.

What are you on about?

howyanow

dec,do you think us salthill folk like to go to that sh1thole in tuam?the place is a disgrace,what about the west board gaa fans in connemara etc,long way from renvyle to tuam??at least pearse is relatively central