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Installing a new PCI Graphics Card
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12-01-2010 6:36pm#1
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Looking to get an expendable desktop on my PC. (Across 2 monitors).
The PC is about 5 years old with PCI slots.
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=513198
How do I know my PC meets these requirements?
It is a HP compaq dc5100 sff model.
Take a picture of the side of the PSU thats in the case now and I'll be able to tell you if your good to go
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Holy ****! Isn't there a cheaper PCI card out there?! :eek: Or a PCIex1 card?
It'd be a lot cheaper to take a wee hacksaw to the end of the PCIex1 slot and fit a normal graphics card in there! Dremel Time methinks...
And you're very short on power as it is in there. I'd only recommend a G210; even a HD4350 or 9400GT could push the PSU's pathetic 12V rail given you've probably got most of it going to the CPU already!0 -
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It'd wind up being a new PC probably; I doubt that PSU is ATX and the case and mobo are a custom form factor
If you can't find a low-profile G210 that sits in a PCI or PCIex1 slot, or you're unwilling to Dremel out the end of your current PCIex1 slot you'll have to forget about it on your current PC. I doubt a G210 would make the PSU pop given it uses under 1A of 12V power even when running stuff (woefully) in 3D.0 -
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If all you want is to run a couple of extra monitors in 2D off your PC I'd risk the PCI 8400GS. Its a naff card but unless you're gaming or running HD movies its not really that big an issue. And as its actually less powerful than the 9400GT or G210 (they're die-shrinks of the 8500GT) I doubt it'll take the PC over the edge.
And even if the PSU was tripped, it'll just shut down and refuse to budge until the offending bit of hardware is taken back out. After all it is an OEM jobbie made by HEC or HiPro or Delta for HP. Its not going to "do a Raidmax" and detonate like an improvised explosive device 0 -
If all you want is to run a couple of extra monitors in 2D off your PC I'd risk the PCI 8400GS. Its a naff card but unless you're gaming or running HD movies its not really that big an issue. And as its actually less powerful than the 9400GT or G210 (they're die-shrinks of the 8500GT) I doubt it'll take the PC over the edge.
Sorry I don't Think I mentioned that the PC only has PCI slots.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/PCI_Slots_Digon3.JPG0 -
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I was talking about this one. Its PCI And according to the PNY website includes the low-profile bracket. Allegedly. :rolleyes:
EDIT: Cherry beat me to it :rolleyes:
The bigger problem is that this way you have to run one monitor off the Intel onboard video and the other off the 8400GS unless you can find a way to hook up the second monitor to the TV-Out on the card, as the VGA port is removed on the low-profile version 0 -
Sorry I don't Think I mentioned that the PC only has PCI slots.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/PCI_Slots_Digon3.JPG
You really could have linked a lower res image!!
Considering on adverts you'd get the bones of a MUCH better PC for around 200, even throwing €70 into that machine is a false economy, and a waste of money.
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=175570&cat=8 (just an example, I think its sold)
€275 really can't go wrong. (yes, it currently has built in gfx - but you can put any PCI-E card into it)0 -
Dublin_Gunner wrote: »You really could have linked a lower res image!!
Considering on adverts you'd get the bones of a MUCH better PC for around 200, even throwing €70 into that machine is a false economy, and a waste of money.
I just wanted to make sure you could see it
Well I could go out and buy a better computer. Should I?0 -
I just wanted to make sure you could see it
Well I could go out and buy a better computer. Should I?
Ha ha fair enough!
Should you?? Well that really depends on what you want it for. If its ok to do what you want, then should you? Probably not. If its the case you'd be updating it hoping it will be powerful enough to do what you want - then maybe you should - but it really depends on what you're prepared to spend.0 -
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Dublin_Gunner wrote: »What are the exact specs on your machine?
The original specs bar memory which is now 2GB. I think I will go out and buy a new PC. Thanks for your help. I had hoped that I would eventually upgrade as time went on.You do know that a standard transform on a small raw image isn't supposed to take three days, right?
Yeah I knew it wasn't me
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You've gone from trying to upgrade an ancient HP to buying insanely overkill €1300 PCs?! :eek:
Now I know who knocked off that ATM...
What exactly are you doing with this rig that needs an i7?! Even an i7 rig shouldn't come to anywhere near a grand, especially given the lack of gaming-grade graphics... The main reason I called time on that HP wasn't because it wasn't awesome enough, it was because it wasn't even pleasantly mediocre! Even a cheapie Core2 (or Athlon2, if Retouch Artists are to be believed...) rig would be a million times better for CS4 than a Pentium 4!
i7 desktop for two-thirds-of-a-grand shipped
Of course that's not including a new OS or monitors or anything...
Even this is most likely overkill, you could probably get away with far less... than the much cheaper i5-750, I mean 0 -
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They're mostly a bit more downmarket below even the i5-750 (not that they're completely inferior to it in all things, they're a bit cheaper usually is all). No AMD presence beyond there, and nothing to directly challenge the i7s. I also avoided them because you want to use Adobe CS4, which the Phenom/K10 architecture may or may not have issues with; bit of a mess there (all benchmarks say they're really bad at CS4 but the new Retouch bench suggests the complete opposite which is a bit awkward as it implies someone is lying through their arse and no-one knows who or how badly yet)
If you want to drop the price of the above build drop the CPU down to a i5-750 or even as low as a i3-530 (then overclock it :P). An AM3 build would neccesitate changing mobo as well; given the lack of good mATX AM3 mobos on HWVS I'd probably change the case back to a full ATX tower again; don't know if you need/want/prefer a desktop or not.
Here's an example AMD build in the same vein as the above. €510+ shipped:
Not the most powerful AMD build possible but a good compromise between cost, performance and heat/power requirement. To think not so long ago a 3GHz quad would be considered eye-poppingly fast... 0 -
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