EPL Team Of The Decade - Right back

kryogen · 13-01-2010 2:55pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Clearly you have not read my posts, so this is the only response you are getting.

WOW

your posts claim Gary Neville played right back when there was injury problems, that Wes Brown has been ahead of him and that Phil was ahead of him!!!

in essence, your posts on the subject are full of ****

even the months you picked to try prove your point are wrong

and so obviously wrong that you must be trollng rather then not able to see it

Great counter arguement though

maybe the reality that your wrong is setting in? are you ready to move on?

SlickRic · 13-01-2010 2:57pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Clearly you have not read my posts, so this is the only response you are getting.

you have not answered why you think you are right with no evidence, whereas we are wrong for backing a claim that is widely accepted as true, granted also with no evidence yet on the table.

insulting us doesn't help either by the way.

Paul Tergat · 13-01-2010 2:58pm

I don't believe for one second that Eagle Eye is being serious. Surely he can't be.

Neville should get this but some of the players listed are a joke tbh.

edit: check here for previous seasons fixtures/lineups for United:

http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/

danlen · 13-01-2010 3:10pm

what about lauren?

played for the best premier league team of the decade and he can't even get a nomination??

come on ffs!!

Mitch Connor · 13-01-2010 3:13pm

danlen wrote: »

what about lauren?

played for the best premier league team of the decade and he can't even get a nomination??

come on ffs!!

No he didn't, he played for Arsenal and Pompey.:P

Morzadec · 13-01-2010 3:13pm

Quite possibly my most hated player in all of football, but it's really very hard to build any argument against Gary Neville for this spot. There just aren't really any other genuine contenders, except for perhaps Finnan who was one of our top performers in Rafa's early years.

But over the decade it's Neville quite comfortably in my opinion.

Muff_Daddy · 13-01-2010 3:16pm

Eagle Eye, you say Neville wasn't first choice for United - I had a quick google search and found that he played 214 prem games since the 00/01 season - and that's despite the last three quarters of the decade being wrote off for him through injury. To put this into context, Wes Brown played 201 games in the same period. There's no two ways about it - Gary Neville was a first team player for Man Utd for the first 7 and a half years of the decade.

As for where he played - go watch any United match from this decade where Neville played and you'll see him supporting Beckham or Ronaldo down the right flank. Yes, he played CB the odd time as cover, but he is predominately a Right Back. Didn't Ferguson himeslf say he felt Neville was too small for CB. Hand picking 5 examples of Neville playing CB does nothing for your arguement.

If you don't think Neville deserves to win this poll thats fine, but you don't need to make stuff up to back up your arguement though.

Mitch Connor · 13-01-2010 3:21pm

Muff_Daddy wrote: »

Eagle Eye, you say Neville wasn't first choice for United - I had a quick google search and found that he played 214 prem games since the 00/01 season - and that's despite the last three quarters of the decade being wrote off for him through injury. To put this into context, Wes Brown played 201 games in the same period. There's no two ways about it - Gary Neville was a first team player for Man Utd for the first 7 and a half years of the decade.

As for where he played - go watch any United match from this decade where Neville played and you'll see him supporting Beckham or Ronaldo down the right flank. Yes, he played CB the odd time as cover, but he is predominately a Right Back. Didn't Ferguson himeslf say he felt Neville was too small for CB. Hand picking 5 examples of Neville playing CB does nothing for your arguement.

If you don't think Neville deserves to win this poll thats fine, but you don't need to make stuff up to back up your arguement though.

Not even picking games where he was at CB. Games where EE has decided he played CB, despite the lineup featuring two CBs, a LB and Gary Neville.

Morzadec · 13-01-2010 3:22pm

Lads I think everyone here knows eagle_eye is wrong other than eagle-eye. No real point debating whther Neville was predominantly a RB or CB. Everyone on here bar one person knows the answer.

Iago · 13-01-2010 3:23pm

eagle eye wrote: »

This is what annoys me. Gary Neville has been a bit part player for United for all bar 3 seasons of the last decade. He was behind Wes Brown(when fit) for the right back spot. Even his brother Phil was chosen ahead of him for the right back sport quite often. There is no way he should be remotely close to this team, he spent more time at centre back than right back in the two seasons he was chosen for the PFA team of the year.

Lauren stands head and shoulders above him of those who played for big four clubs. Stephen Carr, Steve Finnan, Lucas Neill and Mark Delaney should all be ahead of him too.

This poll is an absolute joke with the amount of top players that are missing from it. Its time to assign this whole thing to the scrap heap imo.

eagle eye wrote: »

What age are you? You can't be seriously saying this as a United fan, if you know your team over the last decade.
I'm telling you that he was never first choice for any position over most of the decade.

wow....has to be a level surely?

League Stats
00/01 32 Appearances 32 starts
01/02 34 Appearances 31 starts
02/03 26 Appearances 19 starts
03/04 30 Appearances 30 Starts
04/05 22 Appearances 22 starts
05/06 25 Appearances 24 starts
06/07 24 Appearances 24 starts
07/08

08/09 16 Appearances 13 starts
09/10 5 Appearances 4 starts (20 games played in season to date)

not bad for a bit part player who was never first choice.

SlickRic · 13-01-2010 3:29pm

i just want to highlight how amusing it is seeing Liverpool fans, including myself, sticking up for Gary Neville.

Headshot · 13-01-2010 3:35pm

SlickRic wrote: »

i just want to highlight how amusing it is seeing Liverpool fans, including myself, sticking up for Gary Neville.

should be ashamed

not doing ye're jobs right at all

TonyD79 · 13-01-2010 3:36pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm not wrong but its pointless arguing against thick headed Irish people. They would rather back each other up than admit they are wrong, that post which changes the position of Neville in the games I picked out is just laughable.

I didnt change the position of Nevile I placed the correct postions of each player. Maybe you have crossed over from some alternate reality or something and it hasnt dawned on you yet!!!!!! Or maybe your getting Neville mixed up with Carragher a right back who played the majority of the 00s as a centre half!!!!

SlickRic · 13-01-2010 3:40pm

Headshot wrote: »

should be ashamed

not doing ye're jobs right at all

it just shows you.

we'll call him a prat, b*stard, w*nker, chant all the names under the sun and make the most derogatory remarks about him at times; then listen to him talk smack about Liverpool right back and rub it in our faces.

but it's amazing that there can still be that undercurrent of respect, even for Liverpool's Public Enemy No. 1.

RandolphEsq · 13-01-2010 3:58pm

For me, Gary Neville stands head and shoulders mainly due to the size of his contribution in the entire decade as a whole.
Finnan, Lauren, Johnson, Sagna and Corluka can come next but don't touch Gary Neville

Super-Rush · 13-01-2010 4:04pm

Apologies for the omission of Lauren. Pure fcuk up on my part.

tdv · 13-01-2010 4:06pm

Degag wrote: »

Stam, right back? Should have been on this list so?

Didnt actually ever play RB when he was in England. Only played there for Milan.

JPA · 13-01-2010 4:08pm

Babbel?
Richards?
Johnson? (He's decent but hasn't made a big enough contribution yet.)

What kind of poll is this?

OPENROAD · 13-01-2010 4:10pm

How many seasons did Finnan play regularly at rb for Liverpool?

What did he win in that time for Liverpool?

SlickRic · 13-01-2010 4:15pm

OPENROAD wrote: »

How many seasons did Finnan play regularly at rb for Liverpool?

What did he win in that time for Liverpool?

5 years - 2003-2008.

Champions League and FA Cup.

he was as consistent as they come.

Mitch Connor · 13-01-2010 4:16pm

OPENROAD wrote: »

How many seasons did Finnan play regularly at rb for Liverpool?

What did he win in that time for Liverpool?

he was regular RB for 3 or 4 seasons wasn't he? Also, he was excellent for Fulham before Liverpool signed him.

Super-Rush · 13-01-2010 4:17pm

OPENROAD wrote: »

How many seasons did Finnan play regularly at rb for Liverpool?

What did he win in that time for Liverpool?

5 seasons for Liverpool and 2 seasons for Fulham

He won 1 FA Cup, 1 Charity Shield, 1 Champions League and 1 UEFA Super Cup

OPENROAD · 13-01-2010 4:24pm

super-rush wrote: »

5 seasons for Liverpool and 2 seasons for Fulham

He won 1 FA Cup, 1 Charity Shield, 1 Champions League and 1 UEFA Super Cup

Did he play consistently for 5 seasons though? I thought he was injured initially and didn't play regularly until 2004/05 and fell, out of favour in his last season

Super-Rush · 13-01-2010 4:27pm

No he played consistently for both Fulham and Liverpool. 217 apps for Liverpool & 208 for Fulham.

Kev_ps3 · 13-01-2010 5:04pm

John O' Shea for me. Irish and a Man U player. Simple:pac:

Rikand · 13-01-2010 5:27pm

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

John O' Shea for me. Irish and a Man U player. Simple:pac:

Best team made up of irish players to have played in the premiership this decade!

Perhaps we could bring back McGrath for one of the Centre Back roles

Y2J_MUFC · 13-01-2010 5:51pm

Micah Richards, Markus Babbel 0% between them... sounds about right.

Surely Lauren should be there in the poll instead?

danlen · 13-01-2010 8:27pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

No he didn't, he played for Arsenal and Pompey.:P

i presume that comment is made tongue in cheek!!

arsenal 03/04 were undoubtedly the team of the decade. (probably even the best english side of all time considering the achievement, but lets not open that debate now!)

point is lauren should be on that poll. and close to winning it too imho...

kryogen · 13-01-2010 8:34pm

danlen wrote: »

i presume that comment is made tongue in cheek!!

arsenal 03/04 were undoubtedly the team of the decade. (probably even the best english side of all time considering the achievement, but lets not open that debate now!)

point is lauren should be on that poll. and close to winning it too imho...

undoubtably?

debateably would be the right choice of words

GLaDOS · 13-01-2010 8:45pm

For me, the only reasonably candidates on the poll are Finnan and Neville, and personally it has to be Neville. Lauren should be in the poll as well, maybe Melchiot too? But that's all academic really.

flahavaj · 13-01-2010 9:38pm

How can eagle eye, a guy whos usually a decent poster be so epically wrong here? Bizarre.

noodler · 13-01-2010 9:53pm

OPENROAD wrote: »

How many seasons did Finnan play regularly at rb for Liverpool?

What did he win in that time for Liverpool?

:rolleyes:

Pighead · 13-01-2010 9:57pm

flahavaj wrote: »

How can eagle eye, a guy whos usually a decent poster be so epically wrong here? Bizarre.

It's actually ridiculous how wrong he is. Reminds me of the time I had an argument with my Dad about how long it would take by plane to get to Jamaica from London. He actually thought it was a one hour flight! I shit you not. The basis for his certainty on the subject was the fact he was friends with a Jamaican called Leroy back in the 70's.

Anyway looking at the list above you'd have to say it wasn't a vintage decade for right backs. No truly outstanding player there but of the choices available I'd have to give it to Neville.

noodler · 13-01-2010 10:00pm

In fairness, and sorry if it has already been said, but Finnan had 2 or 3 great PL years with Fulham as well as Liverpool - his five years with Liverpool aren't the only basis on which he can be judged.

Voted the right back of the decade for Liverpool on the website too.

Super-Rush · 16-01-2010 2:49pm

Voting over. Winner Gary Neville.

Left back voting on monday.

flahavaj · 16-01-2010 2:53pm

danlen wrote: »

i presume that comment is made tongue in cheek!!

arsenal 03/04 were undoubtedly the team of the decade. (probably even the best english side of all time considering the achievement, but lets not open that debate now!)

point is lauren should be on that poll. and close to winning it too imho...

Just no. They lose this on points total alone, the fact that they never dominated for a sustained period of time greater than one year, never won a European Cup, I could go on and on........

PHB · 16-01-2010 4:28pm

Also Preston might have something to say about that.

d22ontour · 16-01-2010 6:24pm

SlickRic wrote: »

Given
Neville
Hyypia
Ferdinand
Cole
Ronaldo
Keane
Gerrard
Giggs
Henry
Shearer

Replace Ronaldo with Gerrard and put Scholes in Gerrards position would do me.

:pac:

EPL Team Of The Decade - Right back

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