Liverpool v Reading FA Cup (mod warning @ post 622)

kenon

everdead.ie wrote: »

Remember when they hooked up a heart monitor to Sam Alardyce and the results where insane he is under an imense amount of pressure at the moment to deliver

Was that before he had the op on his heart though?

everdead.ie

kenon wrote: »

Was that before he had the op on his heart though?

Ya it was

kenon

Sam Allardyce was lucky they nipped the problem in the bud.

Loads of managers have to put up with a high level of stress but if it starts effecting their health its up to them to call it a day. I haven't seen the interview that people are talking about so I wont speculate about his health.

leninbenjamin

Rafa, perhaps somewhat unusually for him, did sound as if he took this result very personally.

Spiritoftheseventies

kenon wrote: »

Sam Allardyce was lucky they nipped the problem in the bud.

Loads of managers have to put up with a high level of stress but if it starts effecting their health its up to them to call it a day. I haven't seen the interview that people are talking about so I wont speculate about his health.

again i saw two interviews before game and he seemed to be in a very relaxed manner. But that result was a very bad shock to the system. defending was awful all night.

everdead.ie

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Rafa, perhaps somewhat unusually for him, did sound as if he took this result very personally.

Might have been personal,
Perhaps he was told that they expected a good cup run and his job depended on it?

leninbenjamin

everdead.ie wrote: »

Might have been personal,
Perhaps he was told that they expected a good cup run and his job depended on it?

Possibly. I was wondering though if it was more the players. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but on the BBC interview when asked about why Torres and Gerrard were subbed he said they "wanted" to be taken off and that he "had" to sub them. Could he be questioning their commitment with those words?

everdead.ie

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Possibly. I was wondering though if it was more the players. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but on the BBC interview when asked about why Torres and Gerrard were subbed he said they "wanted" to be taken off and that he "had" to sub them. Could he be questioning their commitment with those words?

Yes he's been critical at times this season of the pair saying they need to step up if i recall but it is a bit like spurs they have a terrific Strike force that almost always score in every game but a leaky defense which puts an amazing amount of pressure on the pair of them to score more then they conceed without really giving them any other players who will help score goals.

leninbenjamin

everdead.ie wrote: »

Yes he's been critical at times this season of the pair saying they need to step up if i recall but it is a bit like spurs they have a terrific Strike force that almost always score in every game but a leaky defense which puts an amazing amount of pressure on the pair of them to score more then they conceed without really giving them any other players who will help score goals.

The thing is though, the two in some ways are a manager's nightmare. They play right at a very high pace, right on the edge, which means they are either brilliant or they are gifting the ball to the opposition. Gerrard in particular can put the defence under an awful lot of pressure with some of his hollywood balls.

LostinBlanch

To whoever said that it wasn't a penalty because it was outside the box :eek:

Please look at this link check it out in slo mo at 01:08 and tell me that it was outside the box. :rolleyes:

x in the city

Rafa continues to be held in the highest esteem by pool fans it seems, no matter what is happening.

the best thing since multiple orgasams...!

Spineless, toothless performance.

Pool fans need to wake up a 'lil bit, Torres will leave for fresh fields soon, like alonso before him.

argosy2006

Man u were beaten by a league one team, its not so bad
Liverpool use to draw so many games, now we lose the amount we use to draw, maybe we need to go back to been the team we first were under Benitez,, we all wanted more open play from him, now look where we are,

x in the city

argosy2006 wrote: »

Man u were beaten by a league one team, its not so bad
Liverpool use to draw so many games, now we lose the amount we use to draw, maybe we need to go back to been the team we first were under Benitez,, we all wanted more open play from him, now look where we are,

back to, erm. zonal marking ugh..?

flahavaj

x in the city wrote: »

Rafa continues to be held in the highest esteem by pool fans it seems, no matter what is happening.

Actually no, most Liverpool fans have said the total opposite if you bothered to read the thread.

Yet again you embarrass yourself in a Liverpool related thread.

To think people have me down as one of the anti-liverpool Wum's.:(

argosy2006

x in the city wrote: »

back to, erm. zonal marking ugh..?

BACK TO,,, hmmm that has never gone away,, i have no problem with zonal marking,
Ben was trying to clear de ball it wasnt a deliberate foul,,he swang leg to clear ball and the other guy put his leg in way of it, clumsy, had to give it ref,
was not on purpose, why would he do it on purpose with seconds to go!!!

Spiritoftheseventies

LostinBlanch wrote: »

To whoever said that it wasn't a penalty because it was outside the box :eek:

Please look at this link check it out in slo mo at 01:08 and tell me that it was outside the box. :rolleyes:

still have my doubts. Minimal contact really

everdead.ie

bayviewclose wrote: »

still have my doubts. Minimal contact really

Minimal contact is still contact an ankle tap can take down a 18 stone rugby player he did make contact with his ankle in the box and didn't touch the ball ref had no option but give the peno

argosy2006

bayviewclose wrote: »

still have my doubts. Minimal contact really

lots of contact, he was swinging to clear the ball..ending up kicking back of his leg instead,,was not his intention

CR 7

argosy2006 wrote: »

Man u were beaten by a league one team, its not so bad
Liverpool use to draw so many games, now we lose the amount we use to draw, maybe we need to go back to been the team we first were under Benitez,, we all wanted more open play from him, now look where we are,

How does that even matter.

That's like saying ye won a league game, so a loss in another game doesn't matter.

There was something missing in that game, when reading equalised, there was no reaction from any liverpool players, no attempt to win the game. That should be worrying.

argosy2006

Park Ji Sung wrote: »

How does that even matter.

That's like saying ye won a league game, so a loss in another game doesn't matter.

There was something missing in that game, when reading equalised, there was no reaction from any liverpool players, no attempt to win the game. That should be worrying.

point is its the FA cup,, it has its history,
as for not trying to win game, i dont believe that, aquilani was out of it in extra time,lucas kept going forward, there was no composure is what i,m trying to get at, it was all hustle and bustle,
why lucas never played in babel i'll never know

evil_seed

x in the city wrote: »

Rafa continues to be held in the highest esteem by pool fans it seems, no matter what is happening.

the best thing since multiple orgasams...!

Spineless, toothless performance.

Pool fans need to wake up a 'lil bit, Torres will leave for fresh fields soon, like alonso before him.

some of the blame may lye with rafa due to his tactics, but the players were muck. it's like they don't want to play at all this season, nevermind tonight. they are playing like a bunch of petulant school kids who won't do anything for the teacher. the blame mainly lyes with the players at the end of the day but rafa will bear the brunt of the pressure and criticisms

argosy2006

evil_seed wrote: »

some of the blame may lye with rafa due to his tactics, but the players were muck. it's like they don't want to play at all this season, nevermind tonight. they are playing like a bunch of petulant school kids who won't do anything for the teacher. the blame mainly lyes with the players at the end of the day but rafa will bear the brunt of the pressure and criticisms

they do play for him,, it shouldnt be this hard though, if your playing well you come off field with out breaking a sweat, players are tried maybe, coz every game this season has been a dogged fight,
most games chelsea played this season were like a walk in de park,,liverpool players are tried ,mentally too

x in the city

flahavaj wrote: »

Actually no, most Liverpool fans have said the total opposite if you bothered to read the thread.

Yet again you embarrass yourself in a Liverpool related thread.

To think people have me down as one of the anti-liverpool Wum's.:(

RaFa is the only one embarrasing himself tbh

CHD

x in the city wrote: »

RaFa is the only one embarrasing himself tbh

Your giving him a run for his money :pac:

Really is baffling what is happening at Liverpool.

x in the city

he also has a quite worringly obsession with spaniards...

the problem is quite simple, poor quality players. also leadership on the pitch can be questioned.

only 3 or 4 players on the pitch are really good, players like carra are wayyyy over rated also, wtf, he is treated like maldini ffs.

Seriously, I remember Pool absolutely twatting Real in the cl and now this...

duh.

Whatever happens I hope he stays on a bit longer as it make for interesting viewing.

RaFas biggest mistake (of his many) is selling alonso.

he pulled all the strings for pool, since they they have been, in a nice simple word

shoite.

edit, actually alonso left on his own accord, to like win something, but still. since he left they have fallen by the way side

ilovelamp2000

bayviewclose wrote: »

still have my doubts. Minimal contact really

Give it up mate.

Your denial is embarrassing.

Bandit12

x in the city wrote: »

Rafa continues to be held in the highest esteem by pool fans it seems, no matter what is happening.

the best thing since multiple orgasams...!

Spineless, toothless performance.

Pool fans need to wake up a 'lil bit, Torres will leave for fresh fields soon, like alonso before him.

Source or more made up baseless lies?

Bandit12

yom 1 wrote: »

first time I have ever agreed with booing .........players were disgraceful tonight and completely deserved it. Only Liverpool player that had even a hint of a good game was Aquilani. Fell away at the end through lack of fitness though.

Fair play reading, thoroughly deserved. Hope you's go far in the competition.

Sad sad day for Liverpool.............

I would never boo the players or manager that's for day trippers and couch fans. The players mind you should be ashamed of themselves for the way they have conducted themselves over the last few months. The lack of fight for the jersey is pathetic and an embarrassment to LFC. Hang your heads boys.

miralize

he must be trying his hardest to get fired

Mitch Connor

bayviewclose wrote: »

still have my doubts. Minimal contact really

are you insane.

Are you saying this is outside of the box? Really?



Are you going to honestly say that looks outside the box? Honestly?

The Muppet

Mitch Connor wrote: »

are you insane.

Are you saying this is outside of the box? Really?



Are you going to honestly say that looks outside the box? Honestly?

Funny, He said it a couple of times last night , he was a lone voice though, A real should have gone to spec savers moment.

Spiritoftheseventies

Mitch Connor wrote: »

are you insane.

Are you saying this is outside of the box? Really?



Are you going to honestly say that looks outside the box? Honestly?

Was probably just inside the box but end of the day Long made the most of the challenge.

SlickRic

x in the city wrote: »

Pool fans need to wake up a 'lil bit, Torres will leave for fresh fields soon, like alonso before him.

most of us are full aware of what's going on, thank you very much.

but whatever about everything else, Gerrard is 10x more likely to leave than Torres.

no matter what, Torres will be here until the end of 2010/11 at the very least; i'd almost be confident enough to put my house on it.

Mitch Connor

bayviewclose wrote: »

Was probably just inside the box but end of the day Long made the most of the challenge.

'Probably' 'Just' inside the area?

Seriously.... it is DEFINITELY WELL inside the box. Just admit you were completely wrong on this, on several occasions last night.

kida

deisedevil wrote: »

Stick to your promise now bayviewclose.

everdead.ie, just in case your wondering, I'll be on the lash friday with my winnings.

8/1 was great odds, well worth the tenner.

I don't usually gloat but........

10 on for me too, guess we won't see bayviewclose for 2 days now

SlickRic

bayviewclose wrote: »

still have my doubts. Minimal contact really

good luck with that.

Long went down easy, but everyone does.

Benny's tackle was stupid, and a draw was the least Reading deserved over 90mins.

The Muppet

kida wrote: »

10 on for me too, guess we won't see bayviewclose for 2 days now

bayviewclose wrote: »

Maybe a few days off will do me good though. Effective from nine tomorrow morning.

He obviously needs the break ,He'll be back saturday morning,

I see we have an imposter in our midst.:pac:

rgiller

bayviewclose wrote: »

Was probably just inside the box but end of the day Long made the most of the challenge.

Never seen Stevie do that...

yom 1

Bandit12 wrote: »

I would never boo the players or manager that's for day trippers and couch fans. The players mind you should be ashamed of themselves for the way they have conducted themselves over the last few months. The lack of fight for the jersey is pathetic and an embarrassment to LFC. Hang your heads boys.

I dont agree with booing myself in the slightest, and never have or never will boo my team. I was just so pi$$ed off last night that I could, for once, understand why there was some booing.

kryogen

bayviewclose wrote: »

Was probably just inside the box but end of the day Long made the most of the challenge.

oi! you not supposed to be here after 9 o clock!!

_blank_

It was inside the box, anyone who even thinks otherwise is telling lies. For what reason a person would lie like that is open to interpretation.

leninbenjamin

bayviewclose wrote: »

Was probably just inside the box but end of the day Long made the most of the challenge.

lol. I didn't see it at the time, but had a look just there. I can't believe how wrong you are!



There's the kick to the back of Long's legs. It's a full yard inside the box for Christ's sake...

anplaya

lmao at bayviewclose's 'probably' inside the box.someone needs glasses i think.he was a good bit inside.

Ush1

leninbenjamin wrote: »

lol. I didn't see it at the time, but had a look just there. I can't believe how wrong you are!



There's the kick to the back of Long's legs. It's a full yard inside the box for Christ's sake...

2 penos there, one on Long and Agger sitting on a player...

noodler

Ush1 wrote: »

2 penos there, one on Long and Agger sitting on a player...

Pshh...ain't no law sitting on a player.

Spiritoftheseventies

leninbenjamin wrote: »

lol. I didn't see it at the time, but had a look just there. I can't believe how wrong you are!



There's the kick to the back of Long's legs. It's a full yard inside the box for Christ's sake...

Okay exile is over. Enough is enough.. Very easy to paint a story with one freeze frame. Like i said there were probably justiifiable claims for a penalty but Long went down very easily.

The Muppet

bayviewclose wrote: »

Okay exile is over. Enough is enough.. Very easy to paint a story with one freeze frame. Like i said there were probably justiifiable claims for a penalty but Long went down very easily.

Welcome back:p

How did you see that tackle as taking place ouside the box?

therecklessone

bayviewclose wrote: »

Okay exile is over.

Exile?

You posted twice since 9am, when you were supposed to quit posting for two days.

Exile me bollox.

Ush1

bayviewclose wrote: »

Okay exile is over. Enough is enough.. Very easy to paint a story with one freeze frame. Like i said there were probably justiifiable claims for a penalty but Long went down very easily.

It was a penalty, stone wall. A kick in the back of the leg is a foul, what Long did afterwards is largely irrelevant.

Ush1

noodler wrote: »

Pshh...ain't no law sitting on a player.

There is yeah, called the "ars* on crotch law".