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TONIGHT With Vincent Browne

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    #3452
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Martin was far too close to all the bad FF decisions to get away from them now
    He hasnt a snowballs chance of being Taoiseach either


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    #3453
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    brianthebard wrote: »
    I know but the blatant lies and doomsday stuff is galling. Holohan never said to guarantee Anglo did he? Does he not realise this nonsense about there being no money in the atms implicates FF even further, shows just how terrible their economic policies have been? Gilmore is not ruthless enough at the same time to really nail Martin on these points, no matter how much Martin is interrupting.

    It sounds like FF are blaming the 'advice' they got for the decisions they made. The doomsday stuff is terrible, not to mention that we are in a doomsday scenario anyway, the imf are here to stay
    Gilmore has not been brilliant so far, he should be much tougher imo


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    #3454
    Skid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    Enda Kenny is giving a speech in Carrick on Shannon now

    http://www.rte.ie/news/player_live.html#schedule

    He's like a Father of the bride at a wedding who has never made a speech in his life.

    But he's still going to be our next leader, unlike the two people in the leaders debate.


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    #3455
    telekon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    The man who established the HSE believes "in a strong health system"...:rolleyes:


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    #3456
    brianthebard
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    th3 s1aught3r wrote: »
    It sounds like FF are blaming the 'advice' they got for the decisions they made. The doomsday stuff is terrible, not to mention that we are in a doomsday scenario anyway, the imf are here to stay
    Gilmore has not been brilliant so far, he should be much tougher imo

    It shouldn't be this hard to call out Martin on his lies and sound bites. 'supporting a strong health service' wtf does that mean Martin?

    Labour really dipped in the tv3 poll there a few minutes ago, wonder what caused that?


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    #3457
    GERMAN ROCKS
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    missingtime wrote: »
    Its very disappointing that Enda wouldnt turn up.

    i think he will come out better now going on it tonight. he would only get slaughtered. i dont think he is that good a speaker


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    #3458
    JonathanAnon
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    telekon wrote: »
    The man who established the HSE believes "in a strong health system"...:rolleyes:

    It should be illegal for any Minister to have private health insurance, especially the Minister For Health.. I mean how contradictory is it that Mary Harney had private health insurance.. some confidence in her own system, eh?


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    #3459
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Martin doesnt like being reminded about the HSE :D


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    #3460
    brianthebard
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    Gilmore warming up now that Health service has come up...Martin gets awful evil looking when he gets cross....


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    #3461
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    How many ministeries has Martin had ?


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    #3462
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    th3 s1aught3r wrote: »
    How many ministeries has Martin had ?

    Minister for Education and Science (1997–2000)
    Minister for Health and Children (2000–04)
    Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment (2004–08)
    Minister for Foreign Affairs (2008–11)


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    #3463
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Martin claiming children/teens with poor reading skills are immigrants...more bull.


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    #3464
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Gilmore getting in a few nice digs now


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    #3465
    JonathanAnon
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    th3 s1aught3r wrote: »
    Gilmore getting in a few nice digs now

    Counting the number of days was petty, makes me think "have they nothing more constructive to do with their time, perhaps working on something positive to help the country"...

    Martin has won by a mile in my opinion, giving the position he is defending i.e. having been a Cabinet Minister in the party and Governments brought the country to bankruptcy ... Gilmore didnt lend enough heavy blows given the material he had at his disposal...


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    #3466
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Carrick-on Shannon. the epicenter of the country apparently

    em, isnt that in leitrim???


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    #3467
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    Counting the number of days was petty, makes me think "have they nothing more constructive to do with their time, perhaps working on something positive to help the country"...

    Martin has won by a mile in my opinion, giving the position he is defending i.e. having been a Cabinet Minister in the party and Governments brought the country to bankruptcy ... Gilmore didnt lend enough heavy blows given the material he had at his disposal...

    It was always going to be win win for Martin considering how low they are in the polls at the moment. Not much he could have said to make people dislike FF any more than they do already imo


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    #3468
    missingtime
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    Points on reform were actually quite interesting


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    #3469
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    Counting the number of days was petty, makes me think "have they nothing more constructive to do with their time, perhaps working on something positive to help the country"...

    Martin has won by a mile in my opinion, giving the position he is defending i.e. having been a Cabinet Minister in the party and Governments brought the country to bankruptcy ... Gilmore didnt lend enough heavy blows given the material he had at his disposal...

    Agreed it should have been a walk in the park for Gilmore, I can only hope that this is a prep for the RTE debates and he will be stronger as the weeks go on because he was fairly torrid tonight.


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    #3470
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    Counting the number of days was petty, makes me think "have they nothing more constructive to do with their time, perhaps working on something positive to help the country"...

    Martin has won by a mile in my opinion, giving the position he is defending i.e. having been a Cabinet Minister in the party and Governments brought the country to bankruptcy ... Gilmore didnt lend enough heavy blows given the material he had at his disposal...
    yeah, but Happy has to convey the 'calm reasonable non- commie' approach.

    so he cant go ballistic

    but Martin coming across better alright, in the few mins i 've watched it....


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    #3471
    telekon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    What'll TV3 be doing for the next 40mins?:confused:


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    #3472
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    missingtime wrote: »
    Points on reform were actually quite interesting
    yeah. thing is FF are the last party in the known universe that would introduce a list system.
    FF soldiers of destiny do the marching and wont be getting the payoff of getting into de big house?? ye must have swallowed some 'shrooms Michael did ye?


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    #3473
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    telekon wrote: »
    What'll TV3 be doing for the next 40mins?:confused:

    Vincent will be reading Tweets :)


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    #3474
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    yeah, but Happy has to convey the 'calm reasonable non- commie' approach.

    so he cant go ballistic

    but Martin coming across better alright, in the few mins i 've watched it....

    This is true and I think the possibility of SF making real gains this election is scaring Gilmore that if he acts any more extreme he'll be seen to do business with SF. Can't have that, would frighten off middle class voters.
    ArtSmart wrote: »
    yeah. thing is FF are the last party in the known universe that would introduce a list system.
    FF soldiers of destiny do the marching and wont be getting the payoff of getting into de big house?? ye must have swallowed some 'shrooms Michael did ye?

    Good point and just another example of FF making promises which they don't intend to deliver on. That was the only actual policy that I remember being named, everything else was about having a strong health service and other non commital answers.


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    #3475
    JonathanAnon
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    telekon wrote: »
    What'll TV3 be doing for the next 40mins?:confused:

    Ursula Halligan with a discussion of the debate apparently... My TV guide says Cork's Drug Wars...

    Did anybody see Eamonn Gilmore looking to camera (when Martin called him on attempting to maximise his vote), with a sort of shocked, confused look.. almost reminiscent of Nixon..


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    #3476
    Skid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    Post Match analysis now.

    Ursula Halligan would love to have been the moderator in the debate.

    She used to be the top dog around Ballymount but her political discussion show was scrapped to make way for Vinny, I think they hate each other.


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    #3477
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    cnut prone. but she's right. the cnut


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    #3478
    telekon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Ugh, Terry Prone. I feel ill. :(


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    #3479
    JonathanAnon
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    Terry Prone ffs.. the ex FF advisor and contributor to the spin that took over our political system.. Get her off....

    Would have been funny if Enda dropped in to tell Ursula how he thought they did..


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    #3480
    Monty Burnz
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    missingtime wrote: »
    Points on reform were actually quite interesting

    Why is Martin shi!tting us about reform after doing nothing about it during his 14 or whatever years in the cabinet?? Is it because he knows it's what people want to hear? And he knows FFailure won't have to do any of it because they won't be in government?

    Reminds me of this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VGV66GzsKw


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    #3481
    mossyc123
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭mossyc123


    Here comes the kiddies TV presenter Ursula Halligan to explain to the brainless Proles what just happened...

    "So... who won?"

    She really is a tabloid hack! :mad:


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