TONIGHT With Vincent Browne

SEPT 23 1989

brianthebard wrote: »

Leo's been found out as the elitist bastard he is.

They will lose votes over tonights performance

brianthebard

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They will lose votes over tonights performance

Absolutely not, people delude themselves, they won't have to pay property tax under fg - no.1. please! Leo putting in a very poor performance though for someone who is generally seen as a good speaker and a strong member of fg.

telekon

brianthebard wrote: »

Leo's been found out as the elitist bastard he is.

I wouldn't be adverse to FG but you're not far off the mark there. He is definitely representing the right wing of the party and his very obvious ambitious streak has been evident for some time now.

Definitely fancies himself as taoiseach some day. I have no qualms in saying I'd rather Enda as taoiseach than Leo. There's just something...wrong...with him.

Just can't put my finger on it...

Oh_Noes

This is the worst I've ever seen Vradkar. He's coming across like an extremely right-wing Mr Bean.

Dan_Solo

No need for Constantin tonight, Vincent an atom bomb laying MF in his own right.

ArtSmart

jesus christ - re-introduce the property boom?

this is fcking riveting - its like watching a car crash

Sardonicat

FG's attitude to the "deserving poor" can be traced right back to famine times.

"Good" poor people won't spend their money on fags and booze. The deserving poor will be happy to go on mickey mouse work activation programmes and "earn" thier subsitence stipend. It's like the outdoor relief system that resulted in famine roads and walls.

Disgusting, divisive and regressive thinking. And saddly, an attitude that is becoming prevalent in this country and easily exploited by FG.

goat2

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They will lose votes over tonights performance

they were being considered, but not now, that is one party i will not be giving my vote to now,

brianthebard

Vincent has nailed leo, property tax will make money from tax exiles and vat won't - beautiful.

telekon

Its really hard keeping up with ye by the way. I'm 15 mins behind...:(

I presume Leo gets worse...

brianthebard

telekon wrote: »

Its really hard keeping up with ye by the way. I'm 15 mins behind...:(

I presume Leo gets worse...

He started poorly by not wearing a tie and it all went downhill from there.

Sardonicat

Oh_Noes wrote: »

This is the worst I've ever seen Vradkar. He's coming across like an extremely right-wing Mr Bean.

Hopefully, plenty of people are watching this exposition of thr FG soul.

JonathanAnon

I'm a fan of Leo, but he's having a poor enough night tonight..

ArtSmart

Sardonicat wrote: »

FG's attitude to the "deserving poor" can be traced right back to famine times.

"Good" poor people won't spend their money on fags and booze. The deserving poor will be happy to go on mickey mouse work activation programmes and "earn" thier subsitence stipend. It's like the outdoor relief system that resulted in famine roads and walls.

Disgusting, divisive and regressive thinking. And saddly, an attitude that is becoming prevalent in this country and easily exploited by FG.

top class post.

the old FG being reveled here. frightening

Hector Mildew

ArtSmart wrote: »

fck me. the upcoming first mate is shooting holes in the ship

wtf is going on

Indeed. He could get out of it by talking about some policies to help reduce the number of people on job seekers allowance - thought that would've occured to him (if they're real) ...

goat2

back to stone age, cannot beleive what is being asked of people who have taken huge cuts in wages already, im pissed off,

pixelburp

Jesus, Leo's performance is the kind of thing that's going to persuade people to go back to FF; "better the devil you know" n' all that...

telekon

Sardonicat wrote: »

Hopefully, plenty of people are watching this exposition of thr FG soul.

No, the exposition of Leo Varadker. Remember, he's always been bit of a me-feiner and loose cannon over the last couple of years...his right winged-ness will be stifled by the party as a whole. (I hope)

Dan_Solo

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I'm a fan of Leo, but he's having a poor enough night tonight..

If that's their policies then the policies suck, not the presentation.

Koloman

Not Leo's best night but everyone's entitled to the odd off day. He's normally much sharper.

Must be the lack of a tie that's done it.

ArtSmart

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I'm a fan of Leo, but he's having a poor enough night tonight..

so was i. this , i have to say, this is shocking.

i thought the younger crowd were more enlightened - i thought the like of leo would change that old fashioned thatcherism. focking shocking.

Sardonicat

telekon wrote: »

Its really hard keeping up with ye by the way. I'm 15 mins behind...:(

I presume Leo gets worse...

If you have any solpadeine of nurofen plus left from the pre-clampdown days, now is a good time to pop one or two.*




*Sardonicat is in no way condoning using otc analgesics for anything other than their intended purpose. Always ask to speak to a pharmacist.

telekon

There's no way Labour will let Varadker get away with some of these policies.

Maybe he's going waaaayyyyy to the right on purpose so when its balanced out with Labour policy, it will be more near his preferred policy options.


Edit: It reminds me of planning permissions. You want 5 floors, you apply for 10 and then you end up getting permission for 7.

RayM

Leo Varadkar: So far to the right that I think I might have to adjust the settings on my TV screen.

SEPT 23 1989

Koloman wrote: »

Not Leo's best night but everyone's entitled to the odd off day. He's normally much sharper.

Must be the lack of a tie that's done it.

Its his sharpness that is the problem tonight

ArtSmart

pixelburp wrote: »

Jesus, Leo's performance is the kind of thing that's going to persuade people to go back to FF; "better the devil you know" n' all that...

em, lets not go nuts...

Oh_Noes

Hello there Marie Moran

murpho999

Bloody hell, the more I watch these politicians, the more faith I lose in them.

All the major parties are populated by stale parties with no fresh ideas and no perception of what damage their policies would inflict.

"Increase VAT by 2% would increase revenues by €600m." No it wouldn't as it would suppress trade, curb spending and cost jobs. Bloody simple. Brian Lenihan increased VAT by 0.5% in 2008 and took it back a year later as it promoted cross border shopping. Vat on shoes, doesn't he remember budget of 82 when FG government fell?

Property tax, this is something that is missing as most countries have it but it needs to be done right. People now could not afford €2000 per year at this moment.

They need to stimulate economy to generate revenues. You can't tax your way out of a recession.

Really don't know who I'd vote for as I have seen nobody from any party who inspires me.

Maybe Mubarak should come here when he's eventually ousted!

Sorry long post...couldn't hold back....rant over!

SEPT 23 1989

Is she dressed for school in the morning?

Lame Lantern

And with this Marie Moran character tonight's parade of interesting looking eyebrows is complete.