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TONIGHT With Vincent Browne

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    #6692
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    brianthebard wrote: »
    I thought she was a county councillor! definition of a lightweight.

    Yeah she was, she co-opted her Dad to her council seat.


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    #6693
    Koloman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Koloman


    Lame Lantern wrote: »
    Who's the dude with the mullet?

    Thought it was Bill Bailey minus his beard. Explains the chin stroking.


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    #6694
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Listening to those email comments on the show, and at the risk of incurring the wrath of people, I'm a bit tired of this "poor Joan Burton, those sexist pigs shafted her" attitude. God forbid it might be because it was felt Noonan was a better choice for the job (which he is, Noonan has done well so far) Or that Joan Burton's personality isn't the best to be in charge of a tinderbox ministry like Finance.

    In my mind, real equality will occur on the day the gender of a prospective candidate is utterly irrelevant, rather than a 50/50 gender ratio being achieved.


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    #6695
    brianthebard
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    Corsendonk wrote: »
    Yeah she was, she co-opted her Dad to her council seat.

    saints preserve us.


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    #6696
    brianthebard
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Listening to those email comments on the show, and at the risk of incurring the wrath of people, I'm a bit tired of this "poor Joan Burton, those sexist pigs shafted her" attitude. God forbid it might be because it was felt Noonan was a better choice for the job (which he is, Noonan has done well so far) Or that Joan Burton's personality isn't the best to be in charge of a tinderbox ministry like Finance.

    In my mind, real equality will occur on the day the gender of a prospective candidate is utterly irrelevant, rather than a 50/50 gender ratio being achieved.

    They weren't talking about the main finance job they were talking about the new second one which seems to have been set up specifically for labour. Joan is the labour deputy leader and was the finance spokesperson, it was only logical that she should have that second position once it became available. Instead not only was she passed over but she was juggled around and then given a peripheral seat at the cabinet table. It was very badly handled, and setting the cabinet has to be the easiest job the new govt will have in its term.
    Also Noonan hasn't done anything as finance minister tbh.


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    #6697
    take everything
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Listening to those email comments on the show, and at the risk of incurring the wrath of people, I'm a bit tired of this "poor Joan Burton, those sexist pigs shafted her" attitude. God forbid it might be because it was felt Noonan was a better choice for the job (which he is, Noonan has done well so far) Or that Joan Burton's personality isn't the best to be in charge of a tinderbox ministry like Finance.

    In my mind, real equality will occur on the day the gender of a prospective candidate is utterly irrelevant, rather than a 50/50 gender ratio being achieved.

    I think Noonan was gonna get Finance anyway.
    I think it's her not getting the Public Reform portfolio (the newly created sub-Finance one) and it going to Howlin (puzzling admittedly) that caused the understandable disappointment.


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    #6698
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    brianthebard wrote: »
    They weren't talking about the main finance job they were talking about the new second one which seems to have been set up specifically for labour. Joan is the labour deputy leader and was the finance spokesperson, it was only logical that she should have that second position once it became available. Instead not only was she passed over but she was juggled around and then given a peripheral seat at the cabinet table. It was very badly handled, and setting the cabinet has to be the easiest job the new govt will have in its term.
    Also Noonan hasn't done anything as finance minister tbh.

    Which is all fine, but to be honest, until we know otherwise, to suggest that this happened because of gender (which clearly some people are doing) - or that gender plays into the situation in anyway - we're just pointlessly stumbling into the thorny briars of gender politics (hoho).

    To me the more likely explanation is that this was all just diplomatic posturing between coalition partners & somehow satisfying all the primary egos that have been front & centre during the recent election campaign. Yes, she's finance spokesperson, but I think her media performances possibly ruined her chances of being Minister of Finance, not her gender.

    To quote Bernard Ingham: "Many journalists have fallen for the conspiracy theory of government. I do assure you that they would produce more accurate work if they adhered to the cock-up theory"
     It's safer to assume cock-up than conspiracy in this situation


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    #6699
    K-9
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    Noonan was obviously awarded for Enda loyalism. He was Finance spokesman for a time IIRC so does have experience in the area. He did warn about things in 02, fat lot of good it did him.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #6700
    ArtSmart
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    the guy with the mod haircut was good. well off to bed. long day talking bout finance)


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    #6701
    JonathanAnon
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Yes, she's finance spokesperson, but I think her media performances possibly ruined her chances of being Minister of Finance, not her gender.

    I agree completely. Her borderline psychotic performance probably cost her a more senior position.. especially when there was such serious competition for cabinet seats... she has only herself to blame..


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    #6702
    SB-08
    Registered Users Posts: 566 ✭✭✭SB-08


    So another tie-less special on tonight then. Ivan Yates said this morning he will be on. Any word on the other guests? I hope Mario makes a return with a new sketch. Lots of material to use since the election.


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    #6703
    JonathanAnon
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    Anybody know who's on lads.. I looked up Vinnie's twitter machine, but he just links to a few articles..


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    #6704
    take everything
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    80000 feared dead is one of tomorrow's headlines.
    Crazy.


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    #6705
    Lady Chatterton
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    The LLS bus has just landed in Ballymount................Goodnight all.......


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    #6706
    Lady Chatterton
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    It is pre-recorded - no email or tweet machine..................


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    #6707
    UpTheSlashers
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    MrsD007 wrote: »
    It is pre-recorded - no email or tweet machine..................

    I wish he'd just say "Tonights show is pre-recorded".


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    #6708
    Skid
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    MrsD007 wrote: »
    It is pre-recorded - no email or tweet machine..................


    Vinny doesn't do Fridays, ever.


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    #6709
    JonathanAnon
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    I was watching a documentary about X-Day (the proposed American invasion of the Japanese home islands) last night... nb.. this never occurred because they dropped the atom bombs... It got me thinking today.. what the world, and particularly the Chinese, would have given for this Earthquake to happen in 1930s/1940s..


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    #6710
    Corsendonk
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    Couldn't he have found some experts to talk about the earthquake or world affairs rather than 4 people he bumped into in the coffee shop who just did a quick google before coming on air?


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    #6711
    Lady Chatterton
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    Skid, I hope you are impressed that even after a bottle of vino, I copped that it was pre-recorded :)


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    #6712
    brianthebard
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    This is a terrible panel already, the corpulent vacuous actor and green party member are already revealing themselves for complete charlatans.


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    #6713
    Skid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    Did anyone see Cassie and Vinny's recent youtube video?


    Vinny: 'Cassie, can I borrow your tweet machine?'

    Cassie 'Quiet old man, and more importantly, what do you think of my apps?'

    Vinny (laughing) 'you're a very bad person!'


    It was epic!


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    #6714
    Lady Chatterton
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    brianthebard wrote: »
    This is a terrible panel already, the corpulent vacuous actor and green party member are already revealing themselves for complete charlatans.
    Has she not left the Green Party????


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    #6715
    Sardonicat
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    Dierdre's eyes are a bit Aileen Wournos.:eek:


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    #6716
    Bullseye1
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    God is that De Burca? What is she doing on there?


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    #6717
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Deidre DeBurka.. I have an irrational hatred for that woman.


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    #6718
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    MrsD007 wrote: »
    Has she not left the Green Party????

    Well in her speel on the election results she carefully failed to mention the Green Party Wipe out.


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    #6719
    Skid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    Ivan Yates is correct about the Independents, they will have little impact this time around.


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    #6720
    brianthebard
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    SkidMark wrote: »
    Did anyone see Cassie and Vinny's recent youtube video?


    Vinny: 'Cassie, can I borrow your tweet machine?'

    Cassie 'Quiet old man, and more importantly, what do you think of my apps?'

    Vinny (laughing) 'you're a very bad person!'


    It was epic!

    link or gtfo!!!
    MrsD007 wrote: »
    Has she not left the Green Party????

    One a green always a green...tbh I've no idea but vincent mentioned the greens when introducing her so I ran with it.


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    #6721
    Derfil
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    Opposition is just talk.. Horse crap


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