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TONIGHT With Vincent Browne

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    #9182
    steelcityblues
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Corsendonk wrote: »
    Of course they were, like the fellow in the cement mixer or the guy who lost all his money on Titanic area in Cork who then danced on Charlie grave cause it was Charlie fault.

    I know who you voted for then. :rolleyes:


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    #9183
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    steelcityblues wrote: »
    I don't want to go back and forth on this, but do you really believe his family members are watching TV tonight? Really?

    So just because his family may not be watching tonight, that means they should have free rein to tear strips out of the man?


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    #9184
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    I'm no supporter of Fianna Fail nor was I a supporter of the banking guarantee but a 52 year old man died today who's left behind a wife and young family. I think it's only right that people pay their respects to him. It's also worth remembering that he became ill during the economic bankruptcy of this country, the stress of which must have been catastrophic on him.

    What about the stress the fianna fail-crooked developers-crooked bankers consortium have put on the people of this country. Lenihan was in goverment for the whole lot of it and never said anything. We will be paying for it for generations. Just because he died does not absolve him from responsibility or criticism.

    I respect him for battling on through hes illness, but lets not forget he and hes party dragged us into this hole!


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    #9185
    tweedledee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭tweedledee


    RIP as a child of God
    But all these idiots talking about how great he was and such a nice guy he was is POLITICS.
    Polititians trying to look good to the public.
    Linehan was a terrible polititian,his decisions have ruined this country for the next 30 years.
    Says a lot about the Irish,when you hear so many speaking so highly of him.
    He was very quick to line the pockets of the wealthy.:mad:
    God this dump of a country makes me sick.


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    #9186
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    michael999999 wrote: »
    What about the stress the fianna fail-crooked developers-crooked bankers consortium have put on the people of this country. Lenihan was in goverment for the whole lot of it and never said anything. We will be paying for it for generations. Just because he died does not absolve him from responsibility or criticism.

    I respect him for battling on through hes illness, but lets not forget he and hes party dragged us into this hole!

    I agree completely with you. I despise Fianna Fail. All I'm saying is that this is not the night to dissect his politcal career to the point where people start excoriating the man.


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    #9187
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    My name is URL wrote: »
    I'm sure they did. I would have wished him well too, but by doing so I wouldn't have absolved him of anything that he was intrinsic in. My opinion of him has not changed now that he is dead.. and my opinion is purely formed on his political input. I didn't know him, but I'm sure he was a loving man and a good friend to many people. But he was still a politician at a crucial time in Ireland's history.. as are the many others who played a part in what happened.. and I don't think it's very dignified when the only respects shown to those people come after tragedy hits them. I would never wish harm on anyone, but nor would I pretend that my opinions had changed just because of their circumstances.

    The emotional gushing and disdain towards those not partaking in such, from many of those who were vocally outspoken about Lenihan and FF in the very recent past, is just hypocritical and cringeworthy.
    Like the previous posters, I feel tonight is not the night to go attacking this man's record. We need remember the man and acknowledge the bravery he displayed during his illness.
    Brian Lenihan - RIP


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    #9188
    steelcityblues
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    So just because his family may not be watching tonight, that means they should have free rein to tear strips out of the man?

    Maybe better to talk about something else tonight on the show then? Start with a brief tribute, and then move on maybe? Enough coverage on other media today,as it is.

    Hearing endless general platitudes about a controversial political figure from some of the usual suspects, does not make for a great programme.


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    #9189
    tweedledee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭tweedledee


    People die in Ireland everyday,Suicide from debts caused by the bailout,shootings,car accidents,drug overdose,freezing to death in a flat in Dublin cause she couldnt afford to pay ESB,etc etc,none of these poor souls were part of the bank bailout BUT there is no sympathy for them.
    A crocked,shady,two faced polititian passes away and we are all supposed to show our deepest love for him????????????????
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHh the double standards here,a reason why Ireland is quickly becoming the backyard of Europe.:mad:


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    #9190
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    steelcityblues wrote: »
    I know who you voted for then. :rolleyes:

    See thats the sort of childish digs that you get in this country when you point out these nut jobs protesting, blaming their own stupidity on someone else. Its always someone elses fault, you only have to look at the crazy compensation claim culture that exists in Ireland. People are unwilling to take personal responsibility. Like someone voted FF into the government before last but I didn't see too many boards posters claiming they voted FF:eek: And no I didn't vote FF.


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    #9191
    D1stant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Can someone please close this thread for 48 hours.

    In respect?


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    #9192
    steelcityblues
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Corsendonk wrote: »
    See thats the sort of childish digs that you get in this country when you point out these nut jobs protesting, blaming their own stupidity on someone else. Its always someone elses fault, you only have to look at the crazy compensation claim culture that exists in Ireland. People are unwilling to take personal responsibility. Like someone voted FF into the government before last but I didn't see too many boards posters claiming they voted FF:eek: And no I didn't vote FF.

    Brian Lenihan never manned up to his catastrophic mistakes, so what about that?

    The Smokey Robinson song 'Tears of a Clown' seems apt, reading your comments.


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    #9193
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    tweedledee wrote: »
    A crocked,shady,two faced polititian passes away and we are all supposed to show our deepest love for him????????????????

    I honestly do not think that Brian Lenihan was crooked. Misguided -yes. Out of his depth - yes. Not enough business acumen or economic experience to cope sufficiently with the catastrophic collapse and effective bankruptcy of this country - yes. But I do not believe he was crooked.

    Charlie Haughey was crooked. Some of Fianna Fail TDs in the last government were crooked and corrupt, but I don't think you could level such accusations at Brian Lenihan.

    I'll probably be lynched for saying that but there you go.


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    #9194
    Dodd
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    steelcityblues wrote: »
    I don't want to go back and forth on this, but do you really believe his family members are watching TV tonight? Really?

    I don't get that.
    I have people in my family die but I still have the TV on
    that day even if I don't watch it.
    If it was off when it would usually be on I would have been more depressed.
    Someone dies turn off the TV.?


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    #9195
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    I honestly do not think that Brian Lenihan was crooked. Misguided -yes. Out of his depth - yes. Not enough business acumen or economic experience to cope sufficiently with the catastrophic collapse and effective bankruptcy of this country - yes. But I do not believe he was crooked.

    Charlie Haughey was crooked. Some of Fianna Fail TDs in the last government were crooked and corrupt, but I don't think you could level such accusations at Brian Lenihan.

    I'll probably be lynched for saying that but there you go.
    If he was as straight as you say what was he doing in fianna fail all hes life?


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    #9196
    steelcityblues
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Dodd wrote: »
    I don't get that.
    I have people in my family die but I still have the TV on
    that day even if I don't watch it.
    If it was off when it would usually be on I would have been more depressed.
    Someone dies turn off the TV.?

    Maybe you come from a slightly different culture to me on this, but when someone in my own family had died - the wake began - and you would have to engage with several neighbours, friends, old colleagues, etc. (even if you found most of them boring, lol!). So, straying away to watch the telly was certainly frowned upon.

    Maybe it is different with the Lenihans, for all I know.


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    #9197
    tweedledee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭tweedledee


    NOT a bad guy????????WHAT???????he sat down with Cowan and signed away THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND TO WEALTHY BANKERS and then TO WEALTHY er em BANKERS!!!!!! take yer head out of yer botty,he was a major team player in FF,the party taht ripped off our kids for the next THIRTY YEARS.
    Sympathy?????I think not.:mad:


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    #9198
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    michael999999 wrote: »
    If he was as straight as you say what was he doing in fianna fail all hes life?

    Michéal Martin has been in Fianna Fail all his life - he's not crooked.

    I'm no apologist for Fianna Fail and as I said earlier I despise the party but Brian Lenihan was not crooked IMO.


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    #9199
    UrbanMonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭UrbanMonkey


    Vincent Browne is a legend.
    He's always right. Well, everytime I've watched him, he was the only one in the studio making sense.


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    #9200
    D1stant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    steelcityblues wrote: »
    Maybe you come from a slightly different culture to me on this, but when someone in my own family had died - the wake began - and you would have to engage with several neighbours, friends, old colleagues, etc. (even if you found most of them boring, lol!). So, straying away to watch the telly was certainly frowned upon.

    Maybe it is different with the Lenihans, for all I know.

    Maybe you come from a slightly different culture to me on this, but when someone had died we'd generally stop talking ****e about them and leave the familly and friends in peace.

    Brian Lenihan had many friends and relatives. Some of them may be quite young and reading this. Please have a little respect and give it a rest for a while


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    #9201
    Mr E
    Registered Users Posts: 55,514 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    timeout.jpg

    This is a thread for the Vincent Browne TV show (TV discussion in the TV forum, shocking I know). This is NOT the thread to discuss Brian Lenihan's legacy.

    Locking this thread for the night. I'll reopen tomorrow, and hopefully calmer heads will prevail.

    G'night all.


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    #9202
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Todays Sunday Times states that TV3 have decided to keep the VB running while VB takes his long summer using guest presenters. It seems that TV3 have decided to increase the shows female quota by recruiting the cream of Irish womanhood to present the show in VB place. They are currently in talks with Sarah "Little White Lie" Carey and Mary "Mammy" O'Rourke.


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    #9203
    Dennis the Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Any idea when he's heading off? He was around until well into July last year.


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    #9204
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Dennis the Stone wrote: »
    Any idea when he's heading off? He was around until well into July last year.

    Didn't say, just that it was 6 weeks so it might be mid July again and the whole of August.


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    #9205
    JonathanAnon
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    Corsendonk wrote: »
    They are currently in talks with Sarah "Little White Lie" Carey and Mary "Mammy" O'Rourke.

    Sarah Carey's credibility is completely shot.. I actually thought she was a good presenter, but she lied to the tribunal to try to help Denis O'Brien.. She should certainly not be allowed to host the show or any similar show... she's tarnished goods at this stage..


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    #9206
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Does Denis O Brien own TV3?


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    #9207
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    michael999999 wrote: »
    Does Denis O Brien own TV3?

    Did I say that?? My point is that she has proven herself to be a) prone to propagating mistruths and b) aligned to another person who has serious media interests.. So she couldnt be trusted to be objective when carrying out interviews..


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    #9208
    autonomy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭autonomy


    Vincent Browne is Krusty the clown


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    #9209
    D1stant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    Did I say that?? My point is that she has proven herself to be a) prone to propagating mistruths and b) aligned to another person who has serious media interests.. So she couldnt be trusted to be objective when carrying out interviews..


    Agree. She is a disgraceful arrogant lightweight. I'd rather see Twink do it. At least she will admit to those things


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    #9210
    Skid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    They are repeating Patrick Honahan's comments from Friday Night re the IMF/EU deal.

    The bit I have read before now was interesting.


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    #9211
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    Did I say that?? My point is that she has proven herself to be a) prone to propagating mistruths and b) aligned to another person who has serious media interests.. So she couldnt be trusted to be objective when carrying out interviews..
    I dont disagree with you, i was simply asking does Denis o brien own tv3? If he does it would explain why she is getting the gig!


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