TONIGHT With Vincent Browne

Sardonicat · 07-07-2011 11:40pm

Skid wrote: »

It was excellent, Hugh went toe to toe with Jon Gaunt, a smarmy columnist from The Sun, and wiped the floor with him.

Have a look on Youtube tomorrow for some clips.

Put it this way, Hugh would be a much better PrimeMinister in real life than he was in Love Actually.

How apt; wiping the floor with someone who writes for a rag best used for wiping asses.

I presume they were discussing NOTW scumbag "journalistic" techniues?

Sardonicat · 07-07-2011 11:44pm

Skid wrote: »

No idea what's going on with Vinny, but I'm developing a bit of a man crush on Hugh Grant, ...

Do you feel it in your fingers? Do you feel it in your toes...?

JonathanAnon · 07-07-2011 11:44pm

His Manseragh is good all the same.. lol

steelcityblues · 07-07-2011 11:45pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

Do you feel it in your fingers? Do you feel it in your toes...?

If it is everywhere he goes, he needs to seek help!

Lady Chatterton · 07-07-2011 11:45pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

How apt; wiping the floor with someone who writes for a rag best used for wiping asses.

I presume they were discussing NOTW scumbag "journalistic" techniues?

I have never bought the NOTW in my life but I'm sure they must of had some decent and hardworking reporters and subs in Dublin, it is tough on them.

Sardonicat · 07-07-2011 11:47pm

steelcityblues wrote: »

If it is everywhere he goes, he needs to seek help!

Indeed! if he doesn't get help soon there'll be no begining, he'll see no end...

Corsendonk · 07-07-2011 11:47pm

Poor Pascal was getting a hardtime of it tonight, I was goiing to ring Barnados to complain.

steelcityblues · 07-07-2011 11:48pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

I have never bought the NOTW in my life but I'm sure they must of had some decent and hardworking reporters and subs in Dublin, it is tough on them.

Why feel sorry for them? In a smaller way, they assist the Murdoch empire.

steelcityblues · 07-07-2011 11:50pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

Indeed! if he doesn't get help soon there'll be no begining, he'll see no end...

During 1994, that God awful cover was like the never ending second national anthem.

Oh_Noes · 07-07-2011 11:51pm

I wonder where Paul Williams will be headed to now. Exposé perhaps?

Sardonicat · 07-07-2011 11:55pm

Whoah! That was a chilling stunt Enda pulled. A smiling assasin.

Lady Chatterton · 07-07-2011 11:55pm

steelcityblues wrote: »

Why feel sorry for them? In a smaller way, they assist the Murdoch empire.

There are good and bad in every organisation, I feel sorry for anyone who loses their job through absolutely no fault of their own.

JonathanAnon · 07-07-2011 11:57pm

My god to think that people are WASTING THEIR TIME working on protocol to make sure people dont wear pink ... what a bunch of fkn idiots..

Sardonicat · 07-07-2011 11:58pm

Wonder what the late Tony Gregory would have made of the new dress code?

baldbear · 07-07-2011 11:59pm

JonathanAnon wrote: »

My god to think that people are WASTING THEIR TIME working on protocol to make sure people dont wear pink ... what a bunch of fkn idiots..

It's baffling. It seems to be targeting outspoken tds too.

Sardonicat · 07-07-2011 11:59pm

JonathanAnon wrote: »

My god to think that people are WASTING THEIR TIME working on protocol to make sure people dont wear pink ... what a bunch of fkn idiots..

Maybe we could have a pink revolution like the Ukraine's Orange one?

Skid · 07-07-2011 11:59pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

Wonder what the late Tony Gregory would have made of the new dress code?

I'm sure Maureen O'Sullivan could tell you.

steelcityblues · 07-07-2011 11:59pm

MrsD007 wrote: »

There are good and bad in every organisation, I feel sorry for anyone who loses their job through absolutely no fault of their own.

These people usually find work in another publication(s) eventually.

It is not exactly like the old coal miners, who had nowhere else to go.

Lady Chatterton · 08-07-2011 12:06am

steelcityblues wrote: »

These people usually find work in another publication(s) eventually.

I disagree, there are alot of journos out there that are fighting for freelance scraps at the moment.

steelcityblues · 08-07-2011 12:08am

MrsD007 wrote: »

I disagree, there are alot of journos out there that are fighting for freelance scraps at the moment.

Being freelance myself for a few years, I can attest that a number of them have looked down on me. F*ck them tbh.

Lady Chatterton · 08-07-2011 12:12am

steelcityblues wrote: »

Being freelance myself for a few years, I can attest that a number of them have looked down on me. F*ck them tbh.

It is becoming clearer now!

steelcityblues · 08-07-2011 12:17am

MrsD007 wrote: »

It is becoming clearer now!

I have worked for a few more specialist type of magazines in the past, which didn't exactly have the deep pockets of a Murdoch at the helm.

Journos and subbers who worked for such crap as the Murdoch and O'Reilly titles, contributed to the low on intellectual value, and pro-establishment bias of these titles.

Lady Chatterton · 08-07-2011 12:26am

steelcityblues wrote: »

Journos and subbers who worked for such crap as the Murdoch and O'Reilly titles, contributed to the low on intellectual value, and pro-establishment bias of these titles.

That is one hell of a sweeping statement, there are some fine journalists employed by these publications.

steelcityblues · 08-07-2011 12:29am

MrsD007 wrote: »

That is one hell of a sweeping statement, there are some fine journalists employed by these publications.

Name them at least.

Lady Chatterton · 08-07-2011 12:36am

steelcityblues wrote: »

Name them at least.

Gene Kerrigan
Nick Webb & Shane Ross
Liam Collins
Shane Phelan
Miriam Lord (formerly of II)
Eilish O'Regan

steelcityblues · 08-07-2011 12:48am

MrsD007 wrote: »

Gene Kerrigan
Nick Webb & Shane Ross
Liam Collins
Shane Phelan
Miriam Lord (formerly of II)
Eilish O'Regan

How critical were the earlier ones though of FF and the connection with property developers and bankers years ago though? Bit to close to home for the newspaper owner?

Why is it the likes of economists like Morgan Kelly and Gurdgiev who seemed to know the most about the Golden Circle, and are more vocal in their criticism than any mainstream journo?

As for Miriam Lord, calling a few politicians nicknames isn't exactly the height of witty commentary. All the better if its a Shinner or an independent to her.

Eilish O'Regan is OK, I agree.

But for all of that, there is Kevin Myers, Brendan O'Connor, Garda Gerry fellow, Ian O'Doherty, so on, and the bad very much outweighs the good.

Lady Chatterton · 08-07-2011 12:54am

steelcityblues wrote: »

How critical were the earlier ones though of FF and the connection with property developers and bankers years ago though? Bit to close to home for the newspaper owner?

Why is it the likes of economists like Morgan Kelly and Gurdgiev who seemed to know the most about the Golden Circle, and are more vocal in their criticism than any mainstream journo?

As for Miriam Lord, calling a few politicians nicknames isn't exactly the height of witty commentary. All the better if its a Shinner or an independent to her.

Eilish O'Regan is OK, I agree.

But for all of that, there is Kevin Myers, Brendan O'Connor, Garda Gerry fellow, Ian O'Doherty, so on, and the bad very much outweighs the good.

LOL

I'd love to read your work, which publications do you contribute to? You much he seriously good if you can slate these guys

:)

steelcityblues · 08-07-2011 1:04am

MrsD007 wrote: »

LOL

I'd love to read your work, which publications do you contribute to? You much he seriously good if you can slate these guys :)

I don't have to tell you who I have worked for, just like i'm not expecting you to divulge similar info on a public forum.

'Connections' go some way in Irish journalism, and don't be naive in your response to that, because I am sure you know that too!

For example, about five years ago, Justine McCarthy could not publish a story in the Irish Indo about Irish ferries staff being exploited pay wise by management. I'm sure it taught Justine a valuable lesson,that you can only reveal so much if you work for a big paper. :rolleyes:

Lady Chatterton · 08-07-2011 1:21am

steelcityblues wrote: »

I don't have to tell you who I have worked for, just like i'm not expecting you to divulge similar info on a public forum.

'Connections' go some way in Irish journalism, and don't be naive in your response to that, because I am sure you know that too!

For example, about five years ago, Justine McCarthy could not publish a story in the Irish Indo about Irish ferries staff being exploited pay wise by management. I'm sure it taught Justine a valuable lesson,that you can only reveal so much if you work for a big paper. :rolleyes:

I didn't really expect you to state that you worked for "X" publication but if you are a freelance and if for example you contribute to the dailys on a regular basis you could mention that as they have lots of different contributors.

I agree that having family members in journalism can be a big help but if you are talented and eager enough you should be able to make it in journalism on your own. In a previous job, I used to come into regular contact with journalists and some have it and others don't. Some "journalists" are quite content to lift other journalists stories and do a minimal amount of re-writing, while others are extremely passionate and interested in getting their own stories.

I can't comment on the Justine issue as I'm not aware of the situation there.

Plautus · 08-07-2011 2:04am

steelcityblues wrote: »

How critical were the earlier ones though of FF and the connection with property developers and bankers years ago though? Bit to close to home for the newspaper owner?

Why is it the likes of economists like Morgan Kelly and Gurdgiev who seemed to know the most about the Golden Circle, and are more vocal in their criticism than any mainstream journo?

As for Miriam Lord, calling a few politicians nicknames isn't exactly the height of witty commentary. All the better if its a Shinner or an independent to her.

Eilish O'Regan is OK, I agree.

But for all of that, there is Kevin Myers, Brendan O'Connor, Garda Gerry fellow, Ian O'Doherty, so on, and the bad very much outweighs the good.

Don't forget Eilis O'Hanlon, Eoghan Harris, Gwen Halley (formerly of the Sindo, now the latter's wife), Emer O'Kelly, Victoria Mary Clarke, Anne Harris, the editor Aengus Fanning, Barry 'Ego' Egan, Celia Larkin, Ruth Dudley Edwards (she with the Conrad Black obsession) ... the paper is packed full of shock jocks and rent-a-comment hacks.

The only one on the earlier list that was at all palatable is Gene Kerrigan. The Sindo isn't a 'news' paper: it's just a collection of ranting and raving columnists, plugs for supposedly famous models and supermarket advertising.

TONIGHT With Vincent Browne

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