Ireland to Play Brazil in London

DerryRed

Just heard on the news that Ireland will be playing Brazil in LONDON. WTF!!!

Surely this is an insult to all Irish football fans.

Mitch Connor

WTF? That is unbelievable!

Why the hell would we be playing in London - its not like it is much extra travel distance for the Brazil players.

Disgracefull.

I remember playing Jamaica at either Loftus Road or Craven Cottage a while back, why do we do that?

bobbysands81

Grants to the FAI should be suspended as a result of this.

Here we are in the midst of a recession, a game against Brazil will bring 70,000 free spending people to Dublin from Ireland and beyond... except the FAI take the game to London.

Disgraceful decision.

Xavi6

Michael O'Leary must be grinning this morning.

DerryRed

apparently it has something to do with the company who brokered the deal to get the match played. Their conditions were that it had to be played at the Emirates Stadium in London.

Still can't believe the FAI went for this. Another nail in the coffin of football from my perspective.

spockety

This, believe it or not, is actually part of our 'compensation' for the Henry handball.

gucci

Mitch Connor wrote: »

WTF? That is unbelievable!

Why the hell would we be playing in London - its not like it is much extra travel distance for the Brazil players.

Brazil like to play their internationals in Europe because most of their players are based here, so London is as close to them as Dublin.

civis_liberalis

Croke Park said that they made a "competitive offer", or in other words "we'll fleece ye a little less this time, but we'll still fleece ye."

The company didn't bite and went with Emirates instead, but maybe that was the plan in the first place and Croke Park being consulted was only for show.

Fr Tod Umptious

What's the big deal ?

Brazil have played here in 04 and 08, both games were p**s poor,

I'd rather spend my hard earned cash on a game in Dublin against some other opposition

Roll on Argentina in the autumn

Fuhrer

I was worried that this incident would stop being farcical.


No danger of that.

CHD

Its GAA being greedy

daosulli

Think there are a few reasons
Croker is very expensive to rent, Brazil play all of their european friendlies in the Emirates, when they play their friendlies in brazil, none of their european players travel & climate. This is the 1st winter world cup since Mexico '70.
So no point playing games in the heat of brazil. ( Feb/Mar hottest months in brazil )

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daosulli wrote: »

This is the 1st winter world cup since Mexico '70.

Please explain to me how May/June is winter in Mexico?

jaykay74

daosulli wrote: »

This is the 1st winter world cup since Mexico '70.
So no point playing games in the heat of brazil. ( Feb/Mar hottest months in brazil )

Mexico '86 and wat Des says as my geography is poor

bobbysands81

CHD wrote: »

Its GAA being greedy

Really?

How?

Looking forward to you sharing the info you have...

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jaykay74 wrote: »

Mexico '86 and wat Des says as my geography is poor

Unless Mexico sailed from the Northern Hemisphere in the intervening, May/June '86 still wasn't winter in Mexico

Dublin_Gunner

In fairness, I think there's no point bothering to play Brazil if we're not gonna play them in Dublin.

Absolutely stupid. They would have Croker packed to the rafters, and the rent would seem meaningless from the revenue they'd generate form such a fixture.

Stupid. Just utterly stupid. I hope no Irish fans travel.

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Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

I hope no Irish fans travel.

They will though, in their droves.

Deedsie

Des wrote: »

They will though, in their droves.

Well I have no intention of travelling. This is a disgrace. And the GAA are not being greedy. They offered use of there facilities during the renovation of Landsdowne. No fear a bit of gratitude would be shown.

spockety

Des wrote: »

They will though, in their droves.

And even if they don't, there would be enough interest in London alone for this fixture to sell out.

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Deedsie wrote: »

No fear a bit of gratitude would be shown.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, thanks for letting them use your taxpayer paid for stadium.

Christ almighty, the arrogance of gah heads is unbelievable.

Gratitude? Get to fúck.

That stadium in Drumcondra should be an open and public place, for the use of the whole community.

Rule 42 my round hairy hole.

CHD

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Really?

How?

Looking forward to you sharing the info you have...

Charging too much for the use of Croker.

Was it as good for you as it was for me?

ArmaniJeanss

Deedsie wrote: »

Well I have no intention of travelling. This is a disgrace. And the GAA are not being greedy.

Eh, if the Emirates is charging less is it not possible (even likely) that the GAA is being greedy.

Deedsie wrote: »

They offered use of there facilities during the renovation of Landsdowne. No fear a bit of gratitude would be shown.

Gratitude! Fk that. Stadium leased out by GAA, money paid by FAI.
And now the FAI owe the GAA precisely nothing.

daosulli

Des wrote: »

Please explain to me how May/June is winter in Mexico?

Sorry . . Argentina 1978 was the last winter world cup . . apologies

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CHD wrote: »

Charging too much for the use of Croker.

Was it as good for you as it was for me?

I thought the "offered the use of their facilities" line was particularly noteworthy.

Fúcking hell.

Fr Tod Umptious

Ahh, no please, not another soccer v gaa debate

Quoting from the rte website here

The fixture is something of a coup for Ireland

Coup my hole, as I said they played them in 04 and 08, this would be 3 times in 6 yaers, that's hardly a coup, playing Brazil has become commonplce at this stage

duffman13

Well as a massive fan who has gone to nearly every game over the last five years I'm sick too death off this crap, FAI are becoming farcical and alienating a lot fans. Every friendly or competitive game I've gone too however the reccesion has made it more difficult for me too afford it, I read somewhere that a full Croke park means around 25 million to the economy.

The FAI are really showing there true colours!

Dublin_Gunner

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Ahh, no please, not another soccer v gaa debate

Quoting from the rte website here


Coup my hole, as I said they played them in 04 and 08, this would be 3 times in 6 yaers, that's hardly a coup, playing Brazil has become commonplce at this stage

We've had quite a history of playing Brazil.

Liam Brady 1987 FTW

But anyway, the game would have been played in Dublin if the GAA weren't charging so much.

This is not a Soccer V GAA debate, but its a London V Croker debate, in which you'd have to hold the GAA modestly responsible for the switch of venue - we always play Brazil here.

So talking about this fixture without talking about the GAA just cannot happen.

BTW - gratitute for allowing soccer/rugby to use 'their' stadium, while it was idle, and charging massively for the privilege it not something I want to thank them for...

rovingrover

The FAI are being paid a fee by Kentaro to play this game. So are Brazil.

They picked the venue. They negotiated with the GAA and with other stadia. Croke Park was far too expensive.

ziggy

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Dublin_Gunner

ziggy wrote: »

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Not to watch your own team [supposedly playing at 'home'] who's home ground is in Dublin :rolleyes:

event

you do realise it wasnt the FAI?

they accept to play teh game, probably because Trap wanted them to.

The Kentaro then pays ireland a set fee and they decide where to have the game. The GAA were charging too much, so they have it in the emirates.

it has nothing go to do with the FAI, they didnt decide to do this.

Its the same reason england played them in Quatar

Mr. Presentable

DerryRed wrote: »

Just heard on the news that Ireland will be playing Brazil in LONDON. WTF!!!

Surely this is an insult to all Irish football fans.

The organisers are right. London might as well be our capital for the football fans in this country who lap up the English clubs. We travel in our droves every weekend to England to watch foreign teams. Why wouldn't we do likewise to see our own?

Dublin_Gunner

nipplenuts wrote: »

The FAI are right. London might as well be our capital for the football fans in this country who lap up the English clubs. We travel in our droves every weekend to England to watch foreign teams. Why wouldn't we do likewise to see our own?

Silly post of the day TBH.

Eh, Premier League teams are based in England, the Irish national side is not.

Sounds like a GAA supporter having a smart arse moment in a soccer thread TBH

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nipplenuts wrote: »

The organisers are right. London might as well be our capital for the football fans in this country who lap up the English clubs. We travel in our droves every weekend to England to watch foreign teams. Why wouldn't we do likewise to see our own?

destroyer

Des wrote: »

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, thanks for letting them use your taxpayer paid for stadium.
Mainly funded by GAA itself actually
Christ almighty, the arrogance of gah heads is unbelievable.
The arrogance of the FAI is comparable only in its case accompanied by incompetenceGratitude? Get to fúck.

That stadium in Drumcondra should be an open and public place, for the use of the whole community.
Why? Will the new soccer stadium be?
Rule 42 my round hairy hole. PICS OR GTFO

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Mr. Presentable

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Silly post of the day TBH.

Eh, Premier League teams are based in England, the Irish national side is not.

Sounds like a GAA supporter having a smart arse moment in a soccer thread TBH

Eh, there's no fun in sarcasm if I have to put in smilies so folk can understand.

CHD

Lock her up Boss

Dublin_Gunner

Destroyer - exactly how much of Croker do you reckon was paid for by the GAA???? The Gov provided ~€114mln of the ~€260 it cost. So by saying it was 'mainly funded by the GAA itself' is so far off the mark its even funny! Please know the facts before posting.

And will other sports get to play there? Maybe. I don't see why not if the ground happens to be idle. It'll €2.5mln per GAA match though...

Lets not forget that Landsdowne also offers massive tourism revenue from hosting - its hosting the 2011 Europa League final, which should generate in excess of €30mln from that one game alone.

Now, if only we could put in a bid for the Champs League final for Croker......

Nipplenuts - just didn't seem very sarcy to me. Anyway, apologies if I picked up your post incorrectly.

Chardee MacDennis

its about 1.5m a match http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0714/crokepark.html (i have heard it went up to 2.4 but that could be wrong...

event

they lowered it to €700,000 but kentaro can still make more money by having it in the Emirates

Mr. Presentable

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Nipplenuts - just didn't seem very sarcy to me. Anyway, apologies if I picked up your post incorrectly.

Tis not a problem - was being Gavin_***** for the day

Tom65

event wrote: »

they lowered it to €700,000 but kentaro can still make more money by having it in the Emirates

Will they still make more money with hardly any Irish fans there?

Qwerty27

Get your facts right about how much the GAA rec'd from Governemtn for the redevelopment of Croke Park.


"Sensationally, it was announced at this year's annual congress on Friday April 6th that the GAA would receive £60,000,000 from the Government towards the redevelopment over the next three years. This money would be paid in three annual installments of £15m plus a final settlement of £15m for work on the northern end to render the stadium ready for the 2003 Special Olympics, when the opening ceremony will be held.

This brought to £85m the amount given to the redevelopment from public funds over a seven-year period. The promise of further Government aid for games development was seen as more good news.
The new-look Croke Park represents a new era in spectator comfort - not to mention playing facilities. As most people reading this will already know, it is truly awesome"

Croke park is a business in its own right, why should it give the FAI a discount to prevent a meaningless friendly against the Harlem Globetrotters of soccer being held anywhere. Brazil have played 3 or 4 matches in the Emirates, most of their players are based in Europe anyway. The games before agaisnt the like sof Sweden and Brazil have sold out so of course the Ireland game will as well, esp with large Irish community in the UK

Supermanscat

Can't say im overly bothered about the game being in London, plenty will travel, and plenty of ex-pats over there will fill the seats.

As for comments over Croke Park, its not even worth starting the argument.

Dublin_Gunner

Querty - you really should look for newer links.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/minister-at-war-with-gaa-over-croke-park-funding-50278.html

But anyway, its OT for this thread.

Would still much rather have Ireland play their matches, including friendlies in Dublin. Unless of course its some sort of tournament thingy, or an away game.

cournioni

**** sake, the way some of you lads go on here, you would swear the GAA were/will be allowed to play matches in Lansdowne Road...

The GAA doesn't owe the IRFU or the FAI anything, it offers enough to the taxpayer to earn the grants it gets. Same way as the FAI and IRFU earn the grants they get. I guess the GAA are a tad bit better at spending it, right?

OhNoYouDidn't

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Grants to the FAI should be suspended as a result of this.

Here we are in the midst of a recession, a game against Brazil will bring 70,000 free spending people to Dublin from Ireland and beyond... except the FAI take the game to London.

Disgraceful decision.

Grow up. We have been invited by a sports agency to be the away team. Venue decision has nothing to do with the FAI.

I look forward to a similar rant when the Gah next play their All Stars game in Dubai or wherever the blazers want to jet to this year.

OhNoYouDidn't

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Querty - you really should look for newer links.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/minister-at-war-with-gaa-over-croke-park-funding-50278.html

But anyway, its OT for this thread.

Would still much rather have Ireland play their matches, including friendlies in Dublin. Unless of course its some sort of tournament thingy, or an away game.

Which it is, so whats the fuss all about?

OhNoYouDidn't

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

**** sake, the way some of you lads go on here, you would swear the GAA were/will be allowed to play matches in Lansdowne Road...

They did demand access though. Ditto Tallaght. Ditto Lusk.

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

The GAA doesn't owe the IRFU or the FAI anything, it offers enough to the taxpayer to earn the grants it gets. Same way as the FAI and IRFU earn the grants they get. I guess the GAA are a tad bit better at spending it, right?

I don't disagree with the thrust of that, but how exactly does the GAA getting a couple of hundred million for the bigotdome make any net difference to the taxpayer? If the place was never renovated, they would still get the same crowds spending the same amount in D3. Don't get me wrong, the GAA were entitled to their grant, but the issue is they then start complaining when other sports get their share, even to the point of suing the state to stop Rovers new ground being built.

The sense of entitlement the GAA have, what right do they have to interfere in where Brazil play a home game? Its astonishing arrogance.

Paul Tergat

ugh GAA talk



It's pretty embarrassing that this match is being played in England tbh