Ireland to Play Brazil in London

OhNoYouDidn't

p_larkin99 wrote: »

It's pretty embarrassing that this match is being played in England tbh

Are you generally embarrased by Ireland playing away friendlies?

Bandit12

Wow. Just seen this now. If football could'nt swoop any lower it just has. Disgusting.

event

Tom65 wrote: »

Will they still make more money with hardly any Irish fans there?

yes

people will still go to the game who are fans of neither teams

Are people not getting it, why are people still blaming the FAI over this?

CHD

Bandit12 wrote: »

Wow. Just seen this now. If football could'nt swoop any lower it just has. Disgusting.

bladespin

Just shocking, TBH I think this is treating the fans terribly, I wouldn't travel abroad to watch a match but have been to several in Landsdowne and was hoping I'd have a chance of seeing a game in Croker, I won't be bothering with anymore games, the FAI can jump from no on.

OhNoYouDidn't

Bandit12 wrote: »

Wow. Just seen this now. If football could'nt swoop any lower it just has. Disgusting.

Explain this. Seriously

OhNoYouDidn't

bladespin wrote: »

Just shocking, TBH I think this is treating the fans terribly, I wouldn't travel abroad to watch a match but have been to several in Landsdowne and was hoping I'd have a chance of seeing a game in Croker, I won't be bothering with anymore games, the FAI can jump from no on.

Are people deliberatly missing the point here.

THIS IS AN AWAY FRIENDLY WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PARTICIPATE

stovelid

Qwerty27 wrote: »

Croke park is a business in its own right, why should it give the FAI a discount to prevent a meaningless friendly against the Harlem Globetrotters of soccer being held anywhere.

No discount required.

Just less of the guff that the GAA somehow altruistically bent backwards to accommodate the FAI with no benefit accruing to itself.

As for the game, I can't see the issue. There are plenty of ex-pats there. Some will travel from here and most will watch it in the pub. So what?

event

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Are people deliberatly missing the point here.

THIS IS AN AWAY FRIENDLY WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PARTICIPATE

why would people listen, they prefer to just blame the FAI

bladespin

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Are people deliberatly missing the point here.

THIS IS AN AWAY FRIENDLY WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PARTICIPATE

I understand that but it's up to the FAI to represent the Irish football fan and negotiate a more convienient venue.

ronaneire

CHD wrote: »

Its GAA being greedy

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Really?

How?

Looking forward to you sharing the info you have...

CHD wrote: »

Charging too much for the use of Croker.

Was it as good for you as it was for me?

It was reported on the radio yesterday that the GAA had reduced the price for Croke Park for the game against Brazil. In the hope the game could be played in Dublin.
Can't blame the GAA for it.

stovelid

bladespin wrote: »

FAI to represent the Irish football fan

OhNoYouDidn't

ronaneire wrote: »

It was reported on the radio yesterday that the GAA had reduced the price for Croke Park for the game against Brazil. In the hope the game could be played in Dublin.
Can't blame the GAA for it.

It's none of the GAA's business where Brazil play their games. Supreme arrogance.

event

bladespin wrote: »

I understand that but it's up to the FAI to represent the Irish football fan and negotiate a more convienient venue.

NO ITS NOT

KENTARO ORGANISE ALL BRAZIL FRIENDLIES

THEY ASKED IRELAND DID THEY WANT TO PLAY
WE SAID YES, THEY GIVE US A FEE, THEY DECIDE WHERE TO PLAY THE GAMES

OhNoYouDidn't

bladespin wrote: »

I understand that but it's up to the FAI to represent the Irish football fan and negotiate a more convienient venue.

Q "Mr Delaney, would you like x million euro to play Brazil in London?"

A "No, the barstoolers might be put out"

Get real.

bobbysands81

CHD wrote: »

Charging too much for the use of Croker.

Was it as good for you as it was for me?

That's your opinion, I'm asking you to back it up with fact. Can you?

...or are you just making lazy generalisations???

ronaneire

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

It's none of the GAA's business where Brazil play their games. Supreme arrogance.

It's not arrogance, I couldn't give a toss where the game is played.
But why should you have to go to London to watch a Ireland v Brazil friendly?

event

ronaneire wrote: »

It's not arrogance, I couldn't give a toss where the game is played.
But why should you have to go to London to watch a Ireland v Brazil friendly?

see post 65

stovelid

ronaneire wrote: »

But why should you have to go to London to watch a Ireland v Brazil friendly?

You've obviously never heard of (or went to) pre-season friendlies involving the club you support then?

Kev_ps3

DerryRed wrote: »

Just heard on the news that Ireland will be playing Brazil in LONDON. WTF!!!

Surely this is an insult to all Irish football fans.

Not surprised. Only in Ireland would this happin:rolleyes:

Dublin_Gunner

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Not surprised. Only in Ireland would this happin:rolleyes:

Nah, I'm pretty sure the English have to do that too...

Paul Tergat

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Are you generally embarrased by Ireland playing away friendlies?

I think its embarrassing that something wasnt sorted out for it to be played in Ireland.

I hate England playing away friendlies too. That one in Dubai or wherever was just a complete waste of time.

EDIT: LOL

I MUST READ THREADS PROPERLY!!!

Draupnir

Surely Brazil are the home team in this scenario? So what's the fuss?

ronaneire

spockety wrote: »

This, believe it or not, is actually part of our 'compensation' for the Henry handball.

stovelid wrote: »

You've obviously never heard of (or went to) pre-season friendlies involving the club you support then?

As spockety said, it was the 'compensation" for the Henry handball, nothing to do with pre-season friendlies.

event

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Not surprised. Only in Ireland would this happin:rolleyes:

wrong

England did the same to play against brazil in Quatar last year

Fr Tod Umptious

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

It's none of the GAA's business where Brazil play their games.

Very correct, so people should stop blaming the GAA for this game being played in London

Töpher

Spot the difference;

Ireland v Brazil
Brazil v Ireland

munchkin_utd

maybe it made sense for Brazil to play their home game where they would have a bit of support themselves?
(the crowd of brazilians in gort doing meat packing seems to be dimishing so maybe ireland was not an attractive option!!)

One guesstimate of the current British Brazilian population, including those of Brazilian descent, puts it at 200,000,[4] although Office for National Statistics estimates suggest that there were 56,000 Brazilian-born people resident in the UK in 2008.[5]

(from wikipedia)

cournioni

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

They did demand access though. Ditto Tallaght. Ditto Lusk.

I don't disagree with the thrust of that, but how exactly does the GAA getting a couple of hundred million for the bigotdome make any net difference to the taxpayer? If the place was never renovated, they would still get the same crowds spending the same amount in D3. Don't get me wrong, the GAA were entitled to their grant, but the issue is they then start complaining when other sports get their share, even to the point of suing the state to stop Rovers new ground being built.

The sense of entitlement the GAA have, what right do they have to interfere in where Brazil play a home game? Its astonishing arrogance.

Demanding access? Maybe that is a taste of FAI's own medicine?? Possibly?

Ok, so no GAA gets played in any soccer ground although they have enquired, check. Soccer gets played in GAA stadium when they are homeless and then Soccer fans start bitching about the price, check. Sounds alot like Soccer having one's cake and eating it too.

It's like a beggar out on the street looking for change, and then when they get change, they look for the whole wallet even though they're getting a nice bit of welfare but they blow it all on junk. Fortunately for the GAA they spend and have spent their welfare well.

mailblaney

Brazil must have had a bigger say in the negotiations here.
I have to agree, it does appear that they are indeed the home team and us the visitors. They are preparing for a World Cup and they obviously feel that this is the best way to prepare. They must make more money out of playing it the Emirates aswell, just like we cashed in when they came to Croke Park.

It kind of blows the whole 'Henry Handball Compo' thing out of the water though.

CCCP^

Why can't we all just get along?

adamski8

cool, the emirates!

patmac

Great thread, it has everything, GAA v soccer, barstoolers v LOI, LOI v EPL fans, should be fun. We should have one thread and sticky it and direct all said arguments when they start up to it.


Apart from the above, when the crowd that are running the show (not the FAI, but the group that runs Brazil) realise that Croke Park holds 82,300 (guaranteed full house) and the Emirates holds 60,200, that would be 22,100 at average €60 (guess) of a difference which is €1,326,000 in gate receipts that they are missing out on, and despite the difference in rent they would still miss out.
Maybe the Brazillians prefered London to Dublin who knows, but we are only an ickle nation so people should realise that the rest of the world don't give a fcuk what we think.

adamski8

well brazil have played in the emirates before so i guess they have some sort of arrangement where they will play more friendlies there.

OhNoYouDidn't

adamski8 wrote: »

well brazil have played in the emirates before so i guess they have some sort of arrangement where they will play more friendlies there.

That and the fact that the GAA charge more than three times what Arsenal charge for use of the hall

OhNoYouDidn't

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Demanding access? Maybe that is a taste of FAI's own medicine?? Possibly?

The FAI didn't demand anything. They approached the GAA with a commercial proposition that was accepted.

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Ok, so no GAA gets played in any soccer ground although they have enquired, check. Soccer gets played in GAA stadium when they are homeless and then Soccer fans start bitching about the price, check. Sounds alot like Soccer having one's cake and eating it too.

Football grounds can't hold GAA pitches. Simple as that.

No-one is whinging about the price - the issue is that the GAA and their apologists seem to have a bee in their bonnet because a third party felt that it was a more viable option to move the game overseas and one of those factors is that the price on Croker is competitively too expensive versus foreign alternatives. They were in a monopoly situation and behaved accordingly, now they aren't they have lost the business.

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

It's like a beggar out on the street looking for change, and then when they get change, they look for the whole wallet even though they're getting a nice bit of welfare but they blow it all on junk. Fortunately for the GAA they spend and have spent their welfare well.

What utter Gah fascist bull. The FAI now own half of LR. Thats hardly junk. Comparing the FAI to beggers for renting a stadium at well over the odds? This the same Gah that went to the High Court to get free access to Tallaght? Run along back to the Gah forum with this bigoted garbage.

Gavin "shels"

ziggy wrote: »

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POTY.:D

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Eh, Premier League teams are based in England, the Irish national side is not.

All the players are based in England so between that and the money the Gah want it probably works out.

nipplenuts wrote: »

The organisers are right. London might as well be our capital for the football fans in this country who lap up the English clubs. We travel in our droves every weekend to England to watch foreign teams. Why wouldn't we do likewise to see our own?

nipplenuts wrote: »

Tis not a problem - was being Gavin_***** for the day

Well that was definitely a Gavin "Shels" post I have to say, good job.

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Not surprised. Only in Ireland would this happin:rolleyes:

Only in Ireland do thousands of Oirish travel to Britain every ......... oh what the hell!

GLaDOS

This isn't the first time we've played a friendly abroad, and as was said, this is the 3rd time weve played Brazil in the last few years. The FAI had no control over it. And, tbh, it's just a friendly anyway, they're usually crap.

Get over it.

CCCP^

I would have thought the Brazilians would want to avoid playing in London considering one of their own citizens was shot to death by the Police there awhile back when they thought he was a Terrorist.

Fr Tod Umptious

CCCP^ wrote: »

I would have thought the Brazilians would want to avoid playing in London considering one of their own citizens was shot to death by the Police there awhile back when they thought he was a Terrorist.

Ah, nobody really gives a f**k about political stuff like that.

Should Irish people boycott the US cos some Irish guy was shot dead by a cop there a while back ?

OhNoYouDidn't

CCCP^ wrote: »

I would have thought the Brazilians would want to avoid playing in London considering one of their own citizens was shot to death by the Police there awhile back when they thought he was a Terrorist.

And the Met have never killed any innocent Irish guys?

patmac

CCCP^ wrote: »

I would have thought the Brazilians would want to avoid playing in London considering one of their own citizens was shot to death by the Police there awhile back when they thought he was a Terrorist.

Good point, and what about all the Irish terrorists that were killed during the troubles, sure we'd be mad to go over to the land of the Sassanachs. Bring it back to Croker God knows the GAA could do with the money to promote local, Irish games and keep them foreign sports in their place.

stovelid

patmac wrote: »

Bring it back to Croker God knows the GAA could do with the money to promote local, Irish games and keep them foreign sports in their place.

Even in your sarcasm, that's pretty much a good summation.

destroyer

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

The Gov provided ~€114mln of the ~€260 it cost.
.

=38%

Guy:Incognito

bladespin wrote: »

I understand that but it's up to the FAI to represent the Irish football fan and negotiate a more convienient venue.

Like Rio de Janeiro maybe?:rolleyes:

ShamoBuc

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Yes and no. The FAI of today is a very different animal to the FAI of the 80's and 90's. Look at how many people play football versus other sports. We have one of the highest particiapation rates of any country in the world. World class stadium on the horizon too.


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The GAA of today is also a very different animal to the one in the 80's. The FAI in the glory years had absolutely nothing - renting a falling down stadium. Now they will own half of a decent stadium.
'World class stadium'? there is and will only ever be one World Class Stadium in Ireland and everybody knows that is Croker. Landsowne Rd - sorry I mean the AVIVA stadium will be a nice stadium but certainly not world class. Also the GAA have stadiums all over Ireland with capacity for 30,000 40,000 and 50,000. What have the PROFESSIONAL association FAI got ? Jack.

Daysha

Yay, a GAA vs FAI thread. We haven't had one since the Kerry soccer pitch incident! It shouldn't even surprise me that some of the usual posters here have already got the knives out against Croke Park, god knows if this match did end up being played in Croker they'd find some way of laying the blame on them regardless.

This is a friendly in a neutral venue, not a home match being played overseas. The FAI are in the business of making money, just like the GAA. The very idea that they "owe" it to the taxpayer to stage the match in Croker just because they should feel morally obliged or something is pretty laughable.

ziggy

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Rule 42 Abolished?

News to me tbh, when did that happen?

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PORNAPSTER wrote: »

As for begrudgery, I believe that your attitude towards GAA is solely down to the fact that it clubs have better facilities than nearly every soccer club amateur, semi-pro and pro up and down the country and the fact that they have the power to fight for what they need to succeed as an organisation. IMO of course.

His attitude to the gah comes from the fact that they tried to murder his club.

And the litany of idiotic behaviour by gah-heads the country over in relation to soccer clubs in their area.