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gnfnrhead

I thought it was Ninja's?

The Nation of Violence wasent the worst thing in the world, but they screwed up big time with his appearance. Had he retained his old look and just brought the new attitude, I think it could have worked. The change in attire bombed and Joe was up against it from then on.

Charisteas

How much different does Angelina Love look like without make-up?

rovert

Charisteas wrote: »

How much different do women look like without make-up?

FIXED

jmolloy

rovert wrote: »

TNA refusing to bring either Hardy back until they go to rehab:

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2011/8/10/2356623/matt-and-jeff-hardys-tna-stalemate-caused-by-rehab-refusal

good glad to hear, less glad to hear that tna have a second jeff hardy dvd in the works which means that they'll have to have him on tv to partly promote it

also it is not a bit daft of tna to bring Mickie James the very next impact after doing a blinding angle at the ppv

Headshot

How did his court case go?

rovert

Headshot wrote: »

How did his court case go?

Keeps getting delayed.

Lord TSC

from pwinsider elite via lordsofpain.net
- Regarding TNA's financial status, it's said that they are "in the black", which means they have a positive net income, and are in no danger of shutting down. At the same time, there are concern about financial issues in the company.

-The new TNA event sponsorship deal with Direct Auto Insurance is worth millions and obviously has helped the company a great deal.

- TNA made several main office releases over the weekend. One of those releases was the man responsible for bringing the company the multi-million dollar deal with Direct Auto Insurance.

"Thanks Jimmy for making us loads of money. Now get the **** out!"

rovert

Loved reading the reaction to that report online. As TNA loyalists what to use this as proof that TNA is profitable but they cant as if they do they will have to concede that TNA wasnt profitable during 2010 time like they thought. So they are claiming this report is BS. :pac:-

gnfnrhead

I dont see how TNA can be making money now unless that auto deal did wonders for them. Kurt Angle, Sting, Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Rob Van Dam and probably a few more are likely on huge money. Get rid of half of them and they'd be easily making a profit. Now, I suspect most of their income goes straight back out on wages.

rovert

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I dont see how TNA can be making money now unless that auto deal did wonders for them. Kurt Angle, Sting, Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Rob Van Dam and probably a few more are likely on huge money. Get rid of half of them and they'd be easily making a profit. Now, I suspect most of their income goes straight back out on wages.

At very least Spike TV split costs of big name talent if not owns the contracts out right.

gnfnrhead

The only person that I know they contribute towards is Sting, maybe Angle. I havent heard of them contributing for anyone else.

Besides, they have 50-60 people for two hours a week. They could do with dropping a few to save a bit of money.

CMpunked

Heres an idea, let go of the "Legends", pay Paul Heyman the money that Hogan is getting. Whats the poduct? Massive profit!

Penn

CMpunked wrote: »

Heres an idea, let go of the "Legends", pay Paul Heyman the money that Hogan is getting. Whats the poduct? Massive profit!

This is a thread about TNA. Go and take your "logic" elsewhere!

Lord TSC

From Jimmy Wang Yang's Twitter (@akioyang)

It has been over 6 weeks since i wrestles for tna and i still havent been paid and the check that they sent me 2 weeks ago bounced WTF!!!!!

gimmick

Charisteas wrote: »

How much different does Angelina Love look like without make-up?

She actually looks far far nicer in that pic.

paddyismaddy

sounds like

hogan v sting will happen at bound for glory

gnfnrhead

CMpunked wrote: »

Heres an idea, let go of the "Legends", pay Paul Heyman the money that Hogan is getting. Whats the poduct? Massive profit!

Dont stop at the legends. I like the majority of the TNA roster but Destination X showed that most of them arent needed.

Possible spoilers here if you didnt take note of who Bischoff was taking to on Impact this week.

Abyss
AJ Styles
Alex Shelley
Anarquia
Angelina Love
Austin Aries
Bobby Roode
Brian Kendrick
Bully Ray
Chris Sabin
Christopher Daniels
Crimson
D'Angelo Dinero
Devon
Doug Williams
Eric Young
Gunner
Hernandez
Hulk Hogan
Jackie
James Storm
Jeff Hardy
Jeff Jarrett
Jerry Lynn
Jesse Neal
Jesse Godderz
Kazarian
Kid Kash
Kurt Angle
Madison Rayne
Magnus
Mark Haskins
Matt Hardy
Matt Morgan
Mickie James
Mr. Anderson
Miss Tessmacher
Murphy
ODB
Okada
Ric Flair
Rob Terry
Rob Van Dam
Robbie
Rosita
Samoa Joe
Sangriento - No clue why he is still listed on the roster
Sarita
Scott Steiner
Shannon Moore
Sting
Suicide
Tara
Tony Nese
Traci Brooks
Velvet Sky
Winter
Zima Ion

Thats only a handful of changes but would be saving a lot of money and honestly, how many of them are you actually going to miss? You can get rid of more than that and it still wouldnt negativly affect the product but I think the likes of Bully Ray and Jeff Jarrett deserve to stick around for another while. The money saved could go to securing the likes of Gail Kim and Alissa Flash who left over money issues.

Horsebox9000

Sacking Hulk Hogan is a stupid move. Not because he is good or interesting but I bet ya he can still make them a fair whack in merch sales. Same with Jeff hardy. Obviously they are wastes of space but they get the shirts shifted.

I can't wait till the day Jeff Jarrett is gone, I hate the way he thinks he is main event material.

Machismo Fan

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

I can't wait till the day Jeff Jarrett is gone, I hate the way he thinks he is main event material.

Jarrett's been one of the most consistently entertaining things in wrestling this year.

gnfnrhead

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

Sacking Hulk Hogan is a stupid move. Not because he is good or interesting but I bet ya he can still make them a fair whack in merch sales. Same with Jeff hardy. Obviously they are wastes of space but they get the shirts shifted.

I can't wait till the day Jeff Jarrett is gone, I hate the way he thinks he is main event material.

No-one outside TNA Management know the exact numbers, but I'm guessing Hogan doesnt come cheap. Sting and Angle are rumoured to be between $500,000 and $1 million a year. I highly doubt Hogan accepted less than that. He'd need to be selling hundreds of thousands of everything to justify it from a finance point of view. If someone costs more than they bring in, they are costing you money. Hogan sells merchandise but not THAT much. Angle and Sting can get away with it because they are active wrestlers. Thats what they get paid for. Hogan's not.

It wouldnt be so bad if he was actually out promoting the company. Everyone knows who Hulk Hogan is yet he rarely mentions TNA. Mick Foley was on his way out of the company but he was still plugging the **** out of TNA every chance he got.

The TV ratings are nearly the exact same as they were two years ago while buyrates are rumoured to be down. Hogan has brought next to nothing to the company but has taken a lot of money in return. The sooner someone in TNA figures that out, the better in my book.

Horsebox9000

gnfnrhead wrote: »

No-one outside TNA Management know the exact numbers, but I'm guessing Hogan doesnt come cheap. Sting and Angle are rumoured to be between $500,000 and $1 million a year. I highly doubt Hogan accepted less than that. He'd need to be selling hundreds of thousands of everything to justify it from a finance point of view. If someone costs more than they bring in, they are costing you money. Hogan sells merchandise but not THAT much. Angle and Sting can get away with it because they are active wrestlers. Thats what they get paid for. Hogan's not.

It wouldnt be so bad if he was actually out promoting the company. Everyone knows who Hulk Hogan is yet he rarely mentions TNA. Mick Foley was on his way out of the company but he was still plugging the **** out of TNA every chance he got.

The TV ratings are nearly the exact same as they were two years ago while buyrates are rumoured to be down. Hogan has brought next to nothing to the company but has taken a lot of money in return. The sooner someone in TNA figures that out, the better in my book.

Yup thats all very true, but Hogan is still a celbrity so to say. I can't see TNA getting rid of him for a long time unless Vinnie Mac asks Hogan to come back. "Hogan hardly mentions TNA"Yes and no. I have read the reports and so on where he would nearly bury the company without realising it. The thing is though there are plenty of times he does and gets the name into mainstream. Thats why Hogan is there.

I reckon his merch sales are decent. Hogan is kind of like the Cannibal Corpse of wrestling. They keep getting younger fans as they get older. So there is a constant revenue stream.

I'm pretty sure Sting does cost a fairwhack too, but he draws attention....And I am sure it's one of those things that management love. The fact they got the guy that Vinny Mac couldn't get.


I don't agree with your other choices either. Jeff Hardy, if he got clean, would be a huge draw again for TNA. And the merch and the kids who lap up all his stuff.

Ric Flair should be on a lesser contract with them so it doesn't cost them as much money but they still have him.

I don't think I am ever going to agree with you, I have a totally different perspective to you.

Well one thing I agree on. Getting rid of that stupid piece of **** that is Matt Hardy.

P.S.
TNA seem to do have a decent profitiable company on their hands tho. Shareholders from Panda Energy,sponsorships, the 5 hour energy thing for a while. They had a Kleenex deal too in the states so I believe.

gnfnrhead

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

I don't agree with your other choices either. Jeff Hardy, if he got clean, would be a huge draw again for TNA. And the merch and the kids who lap up all his stuff.

Unfortunatly I think Hardy is beyond that now. TNA are way more lenient than WWE when it comes to drug use so I dont see him getting 100% any time soon. Plus, the never ending court case has to be a big mark against him. If that goes wrong he's off to prison. Imagine that publicity. They took a huge chance putting the title on him with that case pending, they seem to have learned their lesson by refusing to use him now.

Ric Flair should be on a lesser contract with them so it doesn't cost them as much money but they still have him.

I reckon he'd be like Hogan and not be willing to take a smaller contract offer. Unlike Hardy, I'm sure WWE would be willing to do business with Flair again especially considering his close relationship with the likes of Triple H.

I'm pretty sure Sting does cost a fairwhack too, but he draws attention....And I am sure it's one of those things that management love. The fact they got the guy that Vinny Mac couldn't get.

I'm sure Sting does cost a lot, but unlike Hogan, he's an active wrestler so you can somewhat justify it.

I reckon his merch sales are decent. Hogan is kind of like the Cannibal Corpse of wrestling. They keep getting younger fans as they get older. So there is a constant revenue stream.

If TNA ever go on the road full time, Hogan's sales will drop dramatically. The majority of the people who attend Impact are tourists who had nothing else to do. Most of the time, a lot of them havent a clue whats going on and just cheer those they know as apposed to the babyfaces. Everyone knows Hogan. If you were a tourist and didnt really watch wrestling but wanted to get a shirt, would you get the one you know or the one you never heard of? On the road, it would be all TNA fans.

My original point was that TNA dont actually need all these people and would be better served using the money elsewhere. I still dont believe that TNA actually need the likes of Hogan or Hardy when the ratings are the exact same as before they came in. I assume they were brought in for ratings as apposed to them being nice guys, they havent made any difference whatsoever. Why keep them when they arent needed?

JP Liz V1

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

Sacking Hulk Hogan is a stupid move. Not because he is good or interesting but I bet ya he can still make them a fair whack in merch sales. Same with Jeff hardy. Obviously they are wastes of space but they get the shirts shifted.

I can't wait till the day Jeff Jarrett is gone, I hate the way he thinks he is main event material.

TBF I dont think Jarrett hogs the main event, he has just came off a great feud with Angle

Angle is a huge asset to TNA he has made Matt Morgan and Mr. Anderson look like main event contenders in their feuds and by the sounds of it a feud with Crimson looks to be on cards in the future

Is Hogan still a big draw today? I would think that failure that was his reality show that his popularity has kinda died down but he is also a celebrity and if he is drawing more and selling more they will keep him around

Horsebox9000

Good points raised folks.

That is my question about Hogan too. How is he generally percived by mainly the American public.

Ever since that reality TV show I lost all respect for him. He seemed like he was a bit too much in love with his daughter at stages.

rovert

The Impact rating was 1.07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poq2MMGr0fU

JP Liz V1

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

Good points raised folks.

That is my question about Hogan too. How is he generally percived by mainly the American public.

Ever since that reality TV show I lost all respect for him. He seemed like he was a bit too much in love with his daughter at stages.

I'd say Hogan and his family are seen as whack jobs over there

the groutch

Can't see Hogan bringing in huge merchandise sales as a heel, it's the faces that are the huge moneyspinners

And Karen Jarrett needs to be taken off Impact completely, the whole thing has been cringeworthy from start to finish, and I change channel (or fast forward if recorded on sky+) everytime she appears on screen

GTR63

rovert wrote: »

The Impact rating was 1.07

to be fair they were up against the nfl warm up games. But its not as if anything around the ol 1.1 mark is a shock

Charisteas

gnfnrhead wrote: »

No-one outside TNA Management know the exact numbers, but I'm guessing Hogan doesnt come cheap. Sting and Angle are rumoured to be between $500,000 and $1 million a year.

Like Rovert said earlier, Spike TV covers the majority (possibly 100%) of some of the top-talents wages which include Sting, Angle and Hogan.

Charisteas

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is Hogan still a big draw today? I would think that failure that was his reality show that his popularity has kinda died down but he is also a celebrity and if he is drawing more and selling more they will keep him around

Yeah his popularity has died down, but I don't blame Hogan Knows Best for that, Hogan Knows Best was actually fairly successful. It went for 4 or 5 seasons in multiple countries, ratings weren't bad (seemed to average around 1.5) which is better than Impact does, and even got a spin-off out of it (Brooke Knows Best - which was a failure!)

When HKB started, he was still with the WWE and loved by everyone, his popularity was sky high.

His popularity dropped when he cheated on his wife, dated his daughters best friend, Nick crashed his car, and repeatidly doing or saying the wrong thing in interviews.