NFC Championship game: VIKINGS vs SAINTS

Gisty · 25-01-2010 4:33am

If I was a Vikings fan I'd be utterly gutted. What an awful decision to throw that pass.

His last 3 seasons have ended with a INT now. Retire now no.4. It is time.

cooker3 · 25-01-2010 4:36am

Wow, the stats for the game are absolutely crazy.
Minnesota destroyed New Orleans in every stat bar turnovers. The old adage turnovers wins games has never been so apt.

Btw, I think it's a near lock, bar injury, that Favre returns next season.

Dodge · 25-01-2010 4:40am

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Busy planning my Saints themed superbowl night!!

Who dat!?!??!!

Finally a kicker gets some glory this preseason

Gisty · 25-01-2010 4:40am

I dunno about Favre coming back. He's blown the last 2 championship games that he's been in. I think this could be it.

Chucky the tree · 25-01-2010 4:43am

Gisty wrote: »

I dunno about Favre coming back. He's blown the last 2 championship games that he's been in. I think this could be it.

He's pretty much blown every major game in his post-season career. Hasn't stopped him coming back yet.:pac:

Gisty · 25-01-2010 4:44am

Chucky the tree wrote: »

He's pretty much blown every major game in his post-season career. Hasn't stopped him coming back yet.:pac:

:pac:

cooker3 · 25-01-2010 4:45am

I think when it comes to who cost the vikings, while Favre is there, there are other people which take far more blame then he does.

Dodge · 25-01-2010 4:48am

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cooker3 wrote: »

I think when it comes to who cost the vikings, while Favre is there, there are other people which take far more blame then he does.

Childress is No 1

12 men in huddle after a time out?

Gisty · 25-01-2010 4:49am

Dodge wrote: »

Childress is No 1

12 men in huddle after a time out?

Yep. But Favre should never, ever, ever, EVER have thrown that last pass.

cooker3 · 25-01-2010 4:55am

Dodge wrote: »

Childress is No 1

12 men in huddle after a time out?

Yeah I liked how Vikings tried to take a Timeout which would have been a penalty in anyway as you can't take 2 in a row.

Dodge · 25-01-2010 4:55am

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Gisty wrote: »

Yep. But Favre should never, ever, ever, EVER have thrown that last pass.

WOuldn't have had to if they didn't give that penalty (Favre even tried t call an illegal 2nd time out)

Gisty · 25-01-2010 4:56am

It was an all round cluster**** from the Vikings at the end tbh. They had it as good as won and they blew it. Only themselves to blame.

Dodge · 25-01-2010 5:04am

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BTW I think Favre was brilliant tonight

And if that last pick was dropped, they'd have still been out of FG range

Oh and I think the Saints D isn't getting enough credit. They always, always target turnovers. Its part of their gameplan. Most of the fumbles had a Saints hand in there trying to pole it loose

cooker3 · 25-01-2010 5:06am

cooker3 wrote: »

Wow, the stats for the game are absolutely crazy.
Minnesota destroyed New Orleans in every stat bar turnovers. The old adage turnovers wins games has never been so apt.

As proof

                     Vikings    Saints
1st Downs		31	15
3rd down efficiency     7-12	3-12
Total Plays		82	55
Total Yards		475	257
Passing			310	189
Comp-Att		28-46	17-31
Yards per pass		6.7	6.1
Rushing			165	68
Rushing Attempts	36	23
Yards per rush		4.6	3.0
Penalties		5-32	9-88
[B]Turnovers		5	1[/B]
Fumbles lost		3	1
Interceptions thrown	2	0
Possession		36:49	27:56

Dodge · 25-01-2010 5:07am

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Favre on now if you hurry

Gisty · 25-01-2010 5:08am

Dodge wrote: »

BTW I think Favre was brilliant tonight

And if that last pick was dropped, they'd have still been out of FG range

Oh and I think the Saints D isn't getting enough credit. They always, always target turnovers. Its part of their gameplan. Most of the fumbles had a Saints hand in there trying to pole it loose

He was brilliant in the last conferance championship he was in. Until he threw a pic :pac:

That's true that they were still out of range, but they could always have gone for it on 4th, or he could have ran for 5 easy yards and gone from there. The pick was just an utterly stupid play..

You're right, the Saints D was awesome too though.

Dodge · 25-01-2010 5:10am

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Gisty wrote: »

The pick was just an utterly stupid play..

Not arguing against that. More just commenting that it'll ruin what could've been a great, great night for him. no one will remember some of the great plays he made now...

Gisty · 25-01-2010 5:14am

Dodge wrote: »

Not arguing against that. More just commenting that it'll ruin what could've been a great, great night for him. no one will remember some of the great plays he made now...

Yep, that's football for you. Be was awesome all game, but when the key play needed to be made he didnt make it.

Kinda sad. I wanted the old dude to get to the big game.

Jules.Winnfield · 25-01-2010 9:27am

Saints

Dodge wrote: »

Busy planning my Saints themed superbowl night!!

Who dat!?!??!!

Finally a kicker gets some glory this preseason

Yeah, glad to see a kicker lifted on his teammates shoulders

. Although I still thought we we're goin to see a Favre bullet pass overtime TD. Great game all the same.

Pherekydes · 25-01-2010 9:59am

Saints

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Favre's last play in football an interception?

Yep. It was the last time, too. And the time before that. And he'll probably do it again next year. And the year after that, too.

But who for?

Pherekydes · 25-01-2010 10:07am

Saints

Chucky the tree wrote: »

He's pretty much blown every major game in his post-season career.

Some bizarre posts in this forum, but this takes the biscuit.

_Buck Rogers · 25-01-2010 11:46am

Saints

Saints were very lucky imo, Pass interference call in OT when there was no contact.

They used iffy tactics on Favre, I'm stunned Favre was able to finish the game.

It doesn't matter how good peterson is if he can't hold on to the ball I wouldnt have him.

I thought i'd be cheering for the winner of this game in the bowl but. . . come on colts!

Utopia Parkway · 25-01-2010 5:21pm

Saints got lucky with some of the officials decisions alright. I even completely forgot until this afternoon about the Pierre Thomas TD that was awarded when he was down a yard before the endzone. Now Saints may have scored it anyway but the Vikings are capable of a goal-line stand.

eagle eye · 25-01-2010 5:22pm

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Pherekydes wrote: »

Yep. It was the last time, too. And the time before that. And he'll probably do it again next year. And the year after that, too.

But who for?

Iirc he signed a two year contract with the Viks.

eagle eye · 25-01-2010 5:34pm

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Chucky the tree wrote: »

He's pretty much blown every major game in his post-season career. Hasn't stopped him coming back yet.:pac:

Including beating the Patriots in '96? Or the Superbowl againt the Broncos the following year.

He has a career postseason rating of 87.3, judging by what you say he should have a rating of no more than 50.

Also if you think about last nights game, his interception at the end was bad, but he should have been taking a knee long before then had there not been so many fumbles. The guy had a brilliant season by any standards.

tallaghtoutlaws · 25-01-2010 5:38pm

Saints

eagle eye wrote: »

Including beating the Patriots in '96? Or the Superbowl againt the Broncos the following year.

He has a career postseason rating of 87.3, judging by what you say he should have a rating of no more than 50.

Also if you think about last nights game, his interception at the end was bad, but he should have been taking a knee long before then had there not been so many fumbles. The guy had a brilliant season by any standards.

And to be fair to Favre:

- The personnel fook up pushed them back and forced them to throw

- The play called for a 40 year old who had been battered all night was questionable in my eyes.

- He should never have been put in this position

Sure it was a bad throw but it was bad decisions by the Vikes coaches in my eyes all round. The expected way too much from Favre.

Chucky the tree · 25-01-2010 8:12pm

Pherekydes wrote: »

Some bizarre posts in this forum, but this takes the biscuit.

eagle eye wrote: »

Including beating the Patriots in '96? Or the Superbowl againt the Broncos the following year.

He has a career postseason rating of 87.3, judging by what you say he should have a rating of no more than 50.

Also if you think about last nights game, his interception at the end was bad, but he should have been taking a knee long before then had there not been so many fumbles. The guy had a brilliant season by any standards.

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

And to be fair to Favre:

- The personnel fook up pushed them back and forced them to throw

- The play called for a 40 year old who had been battered all night was questionable in my eyes.

- He should never have been put in this position

Sure it was a bad throw but it was bad decisions by the Vikes coaches in my eyes all round. The expected way too much from Favre.

Most interceptions by any QB in the play-offs in nfl history. Who cares what his rating is? When it comes to the crunch Favre blows it in the play-offs more often then not just like he did last night. If Favre can't run 5-10 yards into a huge open space then he should have told the trainers he wasn't fit to play in the final drive last night, I doubt he did that though. Not only that but throwing across the field is a mistake I wouldn't even expect a rookie to make.

tallaghtoutlaws · 25-01-2010 8:36pm

Saints

Why do people assume running was the best option look at the still of him just as he off loads the ball. He wouldn't have made 5 yards. With that Defensive player about 2-3 yards away Favre would have lost yards if he ran.

The simple fact is you play to the your strengths and asking Favre to Roll out and find someone open when the Saints had practically everyone in coverage is madness. Especially when your QB is 40 years of age and beat up.

Edit: He had Taylor/Peterson who was running in the flats and found room on the sideline but It seems Favre was scanning left to right as he should and never got as far as looking to his right as he thought the middle was open.

Chucky the tree · 25-01-2010 8:52pm

He has the whole right side of the field open, he could have easily picked up 5 yards which would have made it kickable. As you saw the call seems pretty much perfect as he has a Taylor or Peterson wide open on the exact side Favre rolled out to. How is it childress fault Favre didn't bother looking at that side of the field and instead decided to hurl it it back across to the middle of the field?

tallaghtoutlaws · 25-01-2010 8:59pm

Saints

Chucky the tree wrote: »

He has the whole right side of the field open, he could have easily picked up 5 yards which would have made it kickable. As you saw the call seems pretty much perfect as he has a Taylor or Peterson wide open on the exact side Favre rolled out to. How is it childress fault Favre didn't bother looking at that side of the field and instead decided to hurl it it back across to the middle of the field?

How fast do you think Favre is? That defender closest to him would have closed him down short of 5 yards. And if you notice the video when he planted his feet after rolling out he scanned left to right which is what all QBs are thought to do obviously in the couple of seconds he thought he only had he never looked right and as he scanned through the middle thought he saw someone open.

Sure its his fault for the Int but he should never have been put in that situation. But you have to factor in the pressure of the situation, the timing and what Brett Favre actually saw on the field. It is so easy to sit back and say Favre is useless and the loss was all his fault.

NFC Championship game: VIKINGS vs SAINTS

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