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Play Halo and help Haiti

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭Nedved85


    good idea, gonna crank it back up on wed/thurs so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Anyone else think this is really scummy to piggy back on the back of a disaster to promote your game !! Why not just donate money and say nothing about Halo 3 or ODST. surely they made enough money from flogging sub standard expansion packs as full games to just be able to donate and shut up.

    I wonder how true it is ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    Anyone else think this is really scummy to piggy back on the back of a disaster to promote your game !! Why not just donate money and say nothing about Halo 3 or ODST. surely they made enough money from flogging sub standard expansion packs as full games to just be able to donate and shut up.

    I wonder how true it is ?

    no, don't feel like that at all, probably because i'm not one of those people who bash halo/bungie/microsoft at every chance i get. Theyre trying to do something for Haiti, which involves everyone that plays their games, which i think is a nice idea.

    Dont see many other developers doing this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Howitzer


    I see Rev. Kitchen's point and it opens up debate for how companies should approach this kind of thing. I'd like to see that debate with all its pros and cons, but let's not get into it here - it'll get messy:D.

    Do yer best to make sure that company has to hand over the total $77,000 to the cause ;-) Somehow keep an eye on their report afterwards and see if a cheque is handed over. Enjoy the sponsored gaming on weds/thurs in the meantime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Korvanica wrote: »
    no, don't feel like that at all, probably because i'm not one of those people who bash halo/bungie/microsoft at every chance i get. Theyre trying to do something for Haiti, which involves everyone that plays their games, which i think is a nice idea.

    Dont see many other developers doing this.

    You don't have to be a Halo basher to feel using a disaster to promote your game is low. Maybe you haven't heard of other developers donating because they just gave some money and didn't try to plug their products at the same time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    I agree with Rev. Kitchen to a point, it is a fairly cynical way of making people return to your game, which I can imagine has seen a lot less people playing it post MW2

    But, and while I'm sure Bungie's main concern is the above, the idea that people play the game to raise money also means that people (like on this site) will tell others about it and hopefully raise awareness about the issue in general. The more people who are aware that Haiti needs donations the better. So while it is a corporate, cold, cynical way to get me to play, I still will!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Howitzer


    hmmm... thinking further about their 'promotion' it does seem shameless.
    If I heard an ad on the radio saying:

    "come on down to Jim Jim motors this weekend for a test drive and we'll be donating $1 for every person who takes a spin in our cars, up to $77000"

    - it is using the cause for self-promotion, in that case to publicise the motor company and sell more cars. By-product of it is Haiti get a few bob.

    If you are prepared to give $77000 - then just hand it over and say you've donated something?

    Had the whole Halo promotion been a sponsored Halo'athon from some Halo fans - that would be a different story.

    Starting to :mad: me off more I think about it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    I can see the negative points associated with this but hell I think the real message is people all coming together to support a cause. You could argue that why do any big corporations etc hold fundraisers at all when they could just give the money in the first place.
    It's a good idea though for people who may not have enough money to donate but want to offer something.
    IIRC there was a similar event associated with CoD a month or so ago, was for children in need or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    It's not like they're looking to increase sales with this. If they were then I'd complain but I don't see how they're going to profit from this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    Shameless advertising imo. they could have donated the money wiithout requiring people to play instead of trying to boost their online player numbers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    Can i just ask, how many people bitching about this being shameless self promotion have donated to any Haiti aid charities?

    Im willing to bet not many. So you think its terrible that out of the thousands of halo players, the vast majority of who will not have donated any money, that bungie are willing to donate a few grand if they play a game they already own for 2 days? Its not like theyre asking people to run out and BUY a copy of Halo, and bungie arent making any money off of this, they dont get paid per person playing Halo. If they did, they'd be richer than microsoft. I think its just ridiculously cynical to say that when someone offers to pay money in return for you playing a game you already own, you assume its 'shameless elf promotion'.

    Ill fire up a game of ODST myself anyway, not liek its going to do any harm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    0ubliette wrote: »
    'shameless elf promotion'.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭mise


    This kind of thing happens in most industry sectors.. associating the company with a charity, the "for every bottle of our water you buy, we'll donate 5c to charity" promotions etc..

    I don't have any problem with it really, and Ill be playing ODST tomorrow. Like 0ubliette said, what harm can it do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    0ubliette wrote: »
    Can i just ask, how many people bitching about this being shameless self promotion have donated to any Haiti aid charities?

    Im willing to bet not many. So you think its terrible that out of the thousands of halo players, the vast majority of who will not have donated any money, that bungie are willing to donate a few grand if they play a game they already own for 2 days? Its not like theyre asking people to run out and BUY a copy of Halo, and bungie arent making any money off of this, they dont get paid per person playing Halo. If they did, they'd be richer than microsoft. I think its just ridiculously cynical to say that when someone offers to pay money in return for you playing a game you already own, you assume its 'shameless elf promotion'.

    Ill fire up a game of ODST myself anyway, not liek its going to do any harm.

    Why not just give the money and not say anything. Or if they want the warm feeling you get inside from telling everyone about your charity donations then just give the money and say we have donated 77,000 to the fund on behalf of the Halo community.

    Also they need this money now (well last week really) But Bungie are saying "sorry Hati i know you are home less and starving to death we will send you some money at the end of the week when we are finished playing Halo".

    BTW Microsoft pay them ! People pay microsoft they need about 770,000 people to play, they all need to pay 4 euro to microsoft for live. Microsoft get over 3 million. Microsoft pay Bungie to make games that keep people playing online.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    Why not just give the money and not say anything. Or if they want the warm feeling you get inside from telling everyone about your charity donations then just give the money and say we have donated 77,000 to the fund on behalf of the Halo community.

    Also they need this money now (well last week really) But Bungie are saying "sorry Hati i know you are home less and starving to death we will send you some money at the end of the week when we are finished playing Halo".

    BTW Microsoft pay them ! People pay microsoft they need about 770,000 people to play, they all need to pay 4 euro to microsoft for live. Microsoft get over 3 million. Microsoft pay Bungie to make games that keep people playing online.

    Why does any charity fund raiser happen then eh? Why didnt bob geldof just go door to door collecting for concern instead of organising live aid?

    Maybe people who cant afford to pay any money to charity can feel like theyre making some kind of an effort, no matter how small?

    Yes they need money now but theyre also going to need money in the long term. This crisis wont end on Friday and everythings back to normal. Also, thier government and the rest of the worlds arent exactly making speedy with the relief money, so im sure they'll take whatever they can get, whenever it arrives. Maybe advertising it for a day or two might get a few thousand more players and more money? Ever consider that?
    BTW Microsoft pay them ! People pay microsoft they need about 770,000 people to play, they all need to pay 4 euro to microsoft for live. Microsoft get over 3 million. Microsoft pay Bungie to make games that keep people playing online.

    I read this about 3 times and still have no idea WTF its supposed to mean. Are you complaining that people in Bungie are paid a wage? Try making sense the next time. I assume you're aware of all the money Microsoft donate to charities every year without bragging about it?

    If youre that indignant about someone trying to raise some money for Haiti by getting people to play a video game, i suggest you go find yourself a Concern or GOAL office and give them a few quid out of your own pocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    I think it's a good idea. I'd imagine it's aimed at the people who have the game already, and want to feel they have helped in some way, in a fun manner. Gives them an excuse to play Halo, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    0ubliette wrote: »
    Why does any charity fund raiser happen then eh? Why didnt bob geldof just go door to door collecting for concern instead of organising live aid?

    Maybe people who cant afford to pay any money to charity can feel like theyre making some kind of an effort, no matter how small?

    Yes they need money now but theyre also going to need money in the long term. This crisis wont end on Friday and everythings back to normal. Also, thier government and the rest of the worlds arent exactly making speedy with the relief money, so im sure they'll take whatever they can get, whenever it arrives. Maybe advertising it for a day or two might get a few thousand more players and more money? Ever consider that?



    I read this about 3 times and still have no idea WTF its supposed to mean. Are you complaining that people in Bungie are paid a wage? Try making sense the next time. I assume you're aware of all the money Microsoft donate to charities every year without bragging about it?

    If youre that indignant about someone trying to raise some money for Haiti by getting people to play a video game, i suggest you go find yourself a Concern or GOAL office and give them a few quid out of your own pocket.

    I think he's trying to say that it will increase Xbox live gold subscriptions for Microsoft. You need to pay 60 squid for Xbox live in order to play online.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    0ubliette wrote: »

    (1) Maybe people who cant afford to pay any money to charity can feel like theyre making some kind of an effort, no matter how small?

    (2) Maybe advertising it for a day or two might get a few thousand more players and more money? Ever consider that?

    (3)I read this about 3 times and still have no idea WTF its supposed to mean. Are you complaining that people in Bungie are paid a wage? Try making sense the next time. I assume you're aware of all the money Microsoft donate to charities every year without bragging about it?

    If youre that indignant about someone trying to raise some money for Haiti by getting people to play a video game, i suggest you go find yourself a Concern or GOAL office and give them a few quid out of your own pocket.

    A few points so ill go through them even though your are really missing the point.

    (1). True its a very good way for people who after buying an Xbox, TV, Halo, Broadband connection & Xbox live, have no money left to donate the 6 cent Bungie will donate for them if they log in and play Halo. Getting people to not Play Halo and donate the money they save on the ESB would generate more money.

    (2) Why put that in place at all ? listen to what you are saying if more people play then they will give more money ie. the more people to use our product the more money we will give !! Why not just give the money no matter how many people play ?? They could say we are donating this amount on your behalf show your support by using this logo. Dont have any link to the number of people playing to the amount of cash donated.

    (3) It makes perfect sense, You claimed that Bungie make no money out of this deal. But the truth is they are paid to get people to play games online so yes they do make money of it. More people on xbox live = more money for Bungie

    And you are missing the point completly its not that they are giving the money thats good. Its the fact they are using a major tragedy to promote their product. By linking the amount of money given to the number of people that use their product, is what people are upset about not that they are giving money to the fund.

    I am aware of the money Microsoft gives to charity and thats good its good because they dont brag about it. They just do it. This is my point, your actually arguing my point for me now !!. They dont say things like we will only donate to charity next year if 1 million people buy Windows !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭Nedved85


    I have HALO 3 already, im going to play tomorrow, few lads i know will do the same, whats the problem? Nobodys going to run out and buy halo because of this, yeah it gets their name about but who cares, just play for a good cause!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    I doubt there are too many people who are going to buy this game as a result of this effort so anyone who says Bungie are cashing in on the disaster are a little off the mark.

    It's an innovative way to encourage a company to donate and all the punter has to do is sit on his couch and play a few rounds of a game they obviously already own. Fair play I say and it would good to see more of it.

    And the idea that Bungie are going to make money based on an increase in players online I severely doubt they make more than $100 for every thousand people who are playing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    Too true, and maybe this will open a few more peoples (halo players) eyes as to the scale of this disaster. Encouraging them to maybe donate more towards the cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    Korvanica wrote: »
    Too true, and maybe this will open a few more peoples (halo players) eyes as to the scale of this disaster. Encouraging them to maybe donate more towards the cause.

    Exactly. Bungie are raising awareness in their own community in a fun way. They hardly stand to profit from this and they're giving 100% of the money from the t-shirt sales to the cause too. At the end of the day some people who really need help right now are going to get a big cheque so thats why you'll see me online tomorrow.

    Rev. Kitchen needs to shut the f**k up.:mad: I can't believe someone would have the gall to come on here and blatantly denounce Bungie and their community for trying to do some good in this tough world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    You're really missing Rev's point, it's not that they're giving money or not, it's that they are using the disaster as a way to promote their company, rather than simply giving the money. It's nice that they are giving something, but they are also gaining publicity from it, which is a fairly cynical way of donating.

    Raising awareness is good of course, but it's not necessary to raise awareness of their games at the same time.

    They may not directly profit, but they do gain a lot of positive PR, which is currency in itself.

    I'll still dig out my copy of Halo 3, but only because I'm one more person towards the full amount donated. I don't agree with their methods.

    Rev isn't denouncing them for doing some good, but for trying to benefit from it. A disaster shouldn't help advertise your company. Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    Who did they promote it to only their own community? Do you think they're gaining anything by selling what they've already sold? Rev. may not be condemning it but he sure as hell isn't supporting it. He could have said "thats a nice idea" but instead he started to pry and pick holes in it. I'm sorry but if thats the first place your mind goes to then you're part of the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭armour87


    How can people criticize Bungie for this? Do you see any other developers, or anyone in the entire entertainment industry for that matter doing anything remotely similar to help?

    No.

    And as far as promoting the game...It couldn't get any bigger as it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Rob2D wrote: »
    Exactly. Bungie are raising awareness in their own community in a fun way. They hardly stand to profit from this and they're giving 100% of the money from the t-shirt sales to the cause too. At the end of the day some people who really need help right now are going to get a big cheque so thats why you'll see me online tomorrow.

    Rev. Kitchen needs to shut the f**k up.:mad: I can't believe someone would have the gall to come on here and blatantly denounce Bungie and their community for trying to do some good in this tough world.

    And if i had said that then you would be right but i didn't. I didn't denounce Bungie for donating money i commended them on it, i denounced them for their shameless product placement.

    And raising awareness ? Come on people couldn't be more aware


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭armour87


    Shameless product placement? Hmm...what's the first thing you think of when someone says Bungie? Halo!

    And as far as Microsoft generating income out of this...nowhere does it say you have to be Gold. Just connected to Live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    They would have been better giving the 77,000 straight up rather than making conditions, then giving players some way to actively donate through their website or a red cross link or something, than making people feel as if they're donating by playing the game. It's just a PR exercise, that's why I think it's a bit cynical. Again, I'll be playing because of the conditions attached to their donations, but that leaves me feeling a little cold rather than warm and fuzzy. (as someone else said!)

    I'd like to think that whoever thought the idea up was genuinely hoping to help, but with the upper limit on donations rather than just donating, say, €2 for everyone who plays with no limit, seems like some PR exec came up with the idea to smooth over the ODST debacle. (It's an add on sold as a full game for the confused)

    If they had just said we'll give €x amount per player, then the community would genuinely be making a difference and the effort gamers make would count for something more than just pushing a company to give the most they possibly could part with from their enormous coffers.

    And lots of other companies are donating straight up. Which is a nicer way of doing things because it doesn't have the intention of making the consumer feel a sense of attachment to the company because they 'helped' it donate.

    I CAN see why people are saying it's good. At least they're doing something, which is better than nothing, but there are better ways, that's all I'm getting at.

    Also if they don't actually give the full amount regardless of how many people play, what will you think then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    armour87 wrote: »
    Hmm...what's the first thing you think of when someone says Bungie?

    'I'm not gonna jump off anything with just an elastic band around my legs!'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭honeybadger


    **** all yer winging,,,its for a goood cause


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭armour87


    Don't forget that 100% profit from all Bungie items on their store webiste are going to Haiti too and have been since the disaster happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    And if i had said that then you would be right but i didn't. I didn't denounce Bungie for donating money i commended them on it, i denounced them for their shameless product placement.

    And raising awareness ? Come on people couldn't be more aware

    Shameless product placement? Theyre asking people who already own it, to play it. Thats not product placement, thats asking peopl to play a game they already own. And as for saving money on an ESB bill, WTF? Youre making no sense and youre obviosuly stuck in some kind of rage against the machine style rant against the 'big corporations' or some crap.

    You can sit and sulk about bungie 'promoting thier game through a disaster', while the rest of us will fire up a game or two, at no cost to us, and help do something no matter how small for the people of Haiti. As i say, if youre that annoyed by it, just go donate some money yourself and quit whining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    well screw the cynics im going on today and getting all the accounts in my house to go on also for a game. If any thing it will make my 11 year old son feel he is doing somthing to help seeing as there is little else he can do to help the cause.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    0ubliette wrote: »
    Shameless product placement? Theyre asking people who already own it, to play it. Thats not product placement, thats asking peopl to play a game they already own. And as for saving money on an ESB bill, WTF? Youre making no sense and youre obviosuly stuck in some kind of rage against the machine style rant against the 'big corporations' or some crap.

    You can sit and sulk about bungie 'promoting thier game through a disaster', while the rest of us will fire up a game or two, at no cost to us, and help do something no matter how small for the people of Haiti. As i say, if youre that annoyed by it, just go donate some money yourself and quit whining.

    You dont understand product placement thats very clear. You understand that Halo is a brand now and that there is a game coming out this year ?

    What would you say if a cola brand sponsored a news reporter so you had the reporter standing next to a homeless family that are starving in Hati wearing a baseball hat with the cola logo on it, had a T shirt with the logo on it and was drinking a can saying oh that refreshing taste after every sentence. I guess you would think thats ok and that the cola is actually raising awareness of the problem and not using someones mysery to promote the drink because this is the main news story at the moment.

    Its not a rant about corporations its a rant about responsible corporate advertising. Why didn't Bungie just donate some money? They wouldnt do that because that doesn't get their product out there and if you are naive enough to think that Bungie arent promoting the Halo brand by linking it the the biggest news story at the moment then nothing i say will change that.

    I hope you do play Halo and i hope the 6 cent you earn for the people in Hati helps the cause. I have never once said raising the money is a bad thing (which you seem to keep ignoring) I just wish Bungie hadn't turned it into a cheap ad for their brand thats all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    well screw the cynics im going on today and getting all the accounts in my house to go on also for a game. If any thing it will make my 11 year old son feel he is doing somthing to help seeing as there is little else he can do to help the cause.

    Or you could give him 60 cent to drop into the Red cross bucket which would be 10 times more generous and would be a good lesson about helping others without having to get something in return. A lesson that may stay with him for life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    Or you could give him 60 cent to drop into the Red cross bucket which would be 10 times more generous and would be a good lesson about helping others without having to get something in return. A lesson that may stay with him for life.

    well if I actually see one some place i will be putting way more than 60 cent in. Its just somthing he can do today and make him aware of the crisis.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    You dont understand product placement thats very clear. You understand that Halo is a brand now and that there is a game coming out this year ?

    What would you say if a cola brand sponsored a news reporter so you had the reporter standing next to a homeless family that are starving in Hati wearing a baseball hat with the cola logo on it, had a T shirt with the logo on it and was drinking a can saying oh that refreshing taste after every sentence. I guess you would think thats ok and that the cola is actually raising awareness of the problem and not using someones mysery to promote the drink because this is the main news story at the moment.

    Its not a rant about corporations its a rant about responsible corporate advertising. Why didn't Bungie just donate some money? They wouldnt do that because that doesn't get their product out there and if you are naive enough to think that Bungie arent promoting the Halo brand by linking it the the biggest news story at the moment then nothing i say will change that.

    I hope you do play Halo and i hope the 6 cent you earn for the people in Hati helps the cause. I have never once said raising the money is a bad thing (which you seem to keep ignoring) I just wish Bungie hadn't turned it into a cheap ad for their brand thats all.

    Bungie arent advertising anything, theres no mention of Halo reach, no mention of buying anything, theyre not asking anyone for ANY MONEY. Theyre asking existing customers to play for 2 days and do a little something to help a good cause. Show me an advertisment somewhere with HEY KIDS!! PLAY HALO AND SEND 6 CENTS TO HAITI!!! BUY A COPY FOR YOUR FRIENDS TOO!! LOVE, BUNGIE on it, and maybe then ill come around to your completely skewed view of this scenario.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Rev on one hand Bungie could just donate money privately (and how do you know they haven't?) and there's no hullabaloo.

    On the other hand they can get the public involved and raise awareness about the issue and create a potential knock-on effect of making players decide to donate themselves. For every 1000 gamers playing you might find a few who log on Unicef.ie or whatever and make a small donation themselves after seeing the impact of busy servers.

    No matter what way you twist it the bottom line is the people in Haiti are getting more relief. And that's all that matters regardless of Bungie's standing in your eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    What would you say if a cola brand sponsored a news reporter so you had the reporter standing next to a homeless family that are starving in Hati wearing a baseball hat with the cola logo on it, had a T shirt with the logo on it and was drinking a can saying oh that refreshing taste after every sentence.

    Yeah because that's identical to this situation. :rolleyes:
    No matter what way you twist it the bottom line is the people in Haiti are getting more relief. And that's all that matters regardless of Bungie's standing in your eyes.

    Exactly, it's a shame the bleeding hearts tear any kind of good out of the whole thing. I wonder did the complainers actually contribute anything to the cause themselves seeing as they care so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    0ubliette wrote: »
    Bungie arent advertising anything, theres no mention of Halo reach, no mention of buying anything, theyre not asking anyone for ANY MONEY. Theyre asking existing customers to play for 2 days and do a little something to help a good cause. Show me an advertisment somewhere with HEY KIDS!! PLAY HALO AND SEND 6 CENTS TO HAITI!!! BUY A COPY FOR YOUR FRIENDS TOO!! LOVE, BUNGIE on it, and maybe then ill come around to your completely skewed view of this scenario.

    Now i don't know if you are just not capable of understanding what they are doing or you are just trolling to get a reaction. The aggressive stance you took and the way you have approached the thread makes me think you are just trolling looking for a reaction. Thats why instead of making any valid points you just say thing's like "you make no sense" :rolleyes:

    As for your show me the ad ? bit, this just proves you dont know what is happening here. Why does coke pay hefty sums to have the judges on american idol sip from coke glasses ? would you ask me to show you the ad there or to show you where coke are saying hey kids drink coke its great.

    Its called product placement Bungie realise this is a massive story if they can link their brand to the story its massive exposure for their brand.

    Anyway this is pointless its just going around in circles, from a moral stand point i think its wrong to use a tragedy like this to promote your brand you clearly think this is fine. People are different. I wont be playing Halo as i can afford to donate 6 cent directly. If you are unable to afford the 6 cent donation directly then go ahead and play Halo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Asmodean wrote: »
    Yeah because that's identical to this situation. :rolleyes:


    Exactly, it's a shame the bleeding hearts tear any kind of good out of the whole thing. I wonder did the complainers actually contribute anything to the cause themselves seeing as they care so much.

    No its a comparison its not meant to be identical. An identical situation would be another developer promoting their own brand while reporting on Hati.

    In The Bungie Article they mention Bungie, Halo, Halo 3, Halo ODST, The Halo store, The Halo t-shirts, The Halo hoodies, The Halo, bags. Do you think they mentioned Halo enough in their article about raising funds for Hati ?

    Your 2nd point is a contradiction, its the bleeding hearts that give their money to these funds hence the name, because they can empathise with the people affected. (ie my heart bleeds for them) They just give the money they don't attach conditions to the giving, they don't say ill give 100 euro if you get 1000 people to look at my product if no one looks then your getting no money. Which is what Bungie have done !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    Now i don't know if you are just not capable of understanding what they are doing or you are just trolling to get a reaction. The aggressive stance you took and the way you have approached the thread makes me think you are just trolling looking for a reaction. Thats why instead of making any valid points you just say thing's like "you make no sense" :rolleyes:

    As for your show me the ad ? bit, this just proves you dont know what is happening here. Why does coke pay hefty sums to have the judges on american idol sip from coke glasses ? would you ask me to show you the ad there or to show you where coke are saying hey kids drink coke its great.

    Its called product placement Bungie realise this is a massive story if they can link their brand to the story its massive exposure for their brand.

    Anyway this is pointless its just going around in circles, from a moral stand point i think its wrong to use a tragedy like this to promote your brand you clearly think this is fine. People are different. I wont be playing Halo as i can afford to donate 6 cent directly. If you are unable to afford the 6 cent donation directly then go ahead and play Halo.

    I say things like 'you make no sense', because frankly, youre not making any ****ing sense. you seem to miss the point time and time again that bungie arent, and have never, asked for any money from anyone for this. Theyre not shifting extra copies of Halo thanks to this.
    But whatever, keep raging against those big corporate fat cats and their product placement which is apparrently all in your head.
    In The Bungie Article they mention Bungie, Halo, Halo 3, Halo ODST, The Halo store, The Halo t-shirts, The Halo hoodies, The Halo, bags. Do you think they mentioned Halo enough in their article about raising funds for Hati ?
    Because 100% of all profits from these items go to Haiti aid relief?? Perhaps thats why they mention it? Jesus, ****. Read the damn article instead of skimming it and coming back with a retarded opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    0ubliette wrote: »
    I say things like 'you make no sense', because frankly, youre not making any ****ing sense. you seem to miss the point time and time again that bungie arent, and have never, asked for any money from anyone for this. Theyre not shifting extra copies of Halo thanks to this.
    But whatever, keep raging against those big corporate fat cats and their product placement which is apparrently all in your head.


    Because 100% of all profits from these items go to Haiti aid relief?? Perhaps thats why they mention it? Jesus, ****. Read the damn article instead of skimming it and coming back with a retarded opinion.

    I never once made the point nor any reference to the point that they are looking for money from anyone :confused:


    Your cool can i be your friend ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭pipeliner


    of course all of this is promotion for bungie. Of course they are taking advantage of the horrible situation in an attempt to take back some of the mw2 players. But who gives a sh1t.

    At the end of it all the money goes to something very important. If you get a swelled head because you play today, fair play to you, but it does nt matter. All that matters is the money that is made goes to haiti where it is needed


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭PG4000


    I don't see this as bungie using a disaster to promote their product. I see it as bungie using their product to help promote and raise awareness of a disaster and fair play to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    PG4000 wrote: »
    I don't see this as bungie using a disaster to promote their product. I see it as bungie using their product to help promote and raise awareness of a disaster and fair play to them.

    You're being naive tbh. Halo's numbers are down after MW2... this is Bungie clawing back people just before the Reach campaign hits fever pitch. If they were truly helping they wouldn't set a cap on the donation they'd give, and be a bit more generous with the donation. Keep in mind they've made MILLIONS off us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    Yeah $77,000 seems a bit cheap considering the amount of money halo has made. Plus they need 770,000 people to play for that amount to be donated.

    Still though, I haven't heard activision or infinity ward making a similar offer. They could give up some of the bazillion dollars they made this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    any corps that donate to hati will make a point of trying to let every one know about it, but will that really make any difference to the people in hati who need the help, will they care where it came from?

    So i for one did my bit last night and bungi made nothing from me as a result as I already owned the games.

    On a side note i havent seen any one collecting for hati but when i do i indent to donate some cash, did bunji have any thing to do with me doing that, well perhaps they have......


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭OhThePenguin


    Bungie: While we didn’t quite reach the lofty goal we set for ourselves, we’re still gonna kick in the maximum amount and as of right now, between our “Be a Hero” Halo matchmaking and Bungie Store campaigns, together we’ve generated, drumroll…

    …over $100,000.

    Fair play! Say what you want but at the end of the day the money is goin to a good cause and thats all that matters


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