The Republic of Ireland joining the United States of America

lcrcboy

Riddle101 wrote: »

I'm going to be serious and say no. After fighting against British rule, we would be spitting in the faces of all those who fought for Irish Independence. It would be a disgrace and if Ireland did join the United States, I would be ashamed.

what about becoming a sort of protected territory like puerto rico or the US virgin islands??

RedPlanet

lcrcboy wrote: »

what about becoming a sort of protected territory like puerto rico or the US virgin islands??

No thank you.
We don't need their "protection".
We are a neutral country.

major bill

lcrcboy wrote: »

what about becoming a sort of protected territory like puerto rico or the US virgin islands??

we are already protected by the EU that was one of the good points with the lisbon treaty!!!

lcrcboy

RedPlanet wrote: »

No thank you.
We don't need their "protection".
We are a neutral country.

I think are neutrality is going out the window with us being part of the EU anyways,
it seems every time I hear about the Irish army we are getting involved in another peace keeping mission over seas, did you know they are reorganising the army reserve to give them the option to serve over seas

Liam Byrne

It's a definite no from me.

Whatever about the shower of chancers, con-men and corrupt me-feiners that always seem to screw the ordinary people of this country, America is an even more zero-conscience capitalist cesspit in terms of power and fairness; it also invades other countries for no reason.

I also hate the vacuous "celebrity" obsessed bull**** that passes for "culture" in that country, and their native sports are pretty dire too.

And I personally have absolutely no desire to be an American.

I know that all of the above are only negatives, and there are many fine folk in America, and it does have some plusses as a country of its own, but in terms of joining it they would be outweighed by the above.

I'd be more open to joining somewhere with its head screwed on - like Canada or Australia.

lcrcboy

Liam Byrne wrote: »

It's a definite no from me.

Whatever about the shower of chancers, con-men and corrupt me-feiners that always seem to screw the ordinary people of this country, America is an even more zero-conscience capitalist cesspit in terms of power and fairness; it also invades other countries for no reason.

I also hate the vacuous "celebrity" obsessed bull**** that passes for "culture" in that country, and their native sports are pretty dire too.

And I personally have absolutely no desire to be an American.


I know that all of the above are only negatives, and there are many fine folk in America, and it does have some plusses as a country of its own, but in terms of joining it they would be outweighed by the above.

I'd be more open to joining somewhere with its head screwed on - like Canada or Australia.

Australia seems to be a good choice although I here they are starting to spend serious amounts on their military a sort of flexing the muscle thing around south Asia and the pacific

major bill

lcrcboy wrote: »

Australia seems to be a good choice although I here they are starting to spend serious amounts on their military a sort of flexing the muscle thing around south Asia and the pacific

bit of luck there first call is a takeover of indonesia if ever there was a countrys government to be wiped out its them b@stards

Faithless

I've a better idea. Sure, just vote for me and I'll be the ruthless patriot dictator who ruthlessly fixes the country.

Everyone's happy.

Poccington

lcrcboy wrote: »

I think are neutrality is going out the window with us being part of the EU anyways,
it seems every time I hear about the Irish army we are getting involved in another peace keeping mission over seas, did you know they are reorganising the army reserve to give them the option to serve over seas

No, they're not.

lcrcboy

Poccington wrote: »

No, they're not.

ya they eventually want to be able to send the reserve medics, engineers and tranport guys over seas, and then some time later on in the future the regualar infintary might have a shot

Poccington

lcrcboy wrote: »

ya they eventually want to be able to send the reserve medics, engineers and tranport guys over seas, and then some time later on in the future the regualar infintary might have a shot

No.

They wanted to send a very small number of Reservists to serve with KFOR in specialist roles. That had nothing to do with a re-org of the RDF, our neutrality or any other nonsense. It was merely the PDF had trouble filling one or two slots in specialist roles, so a very small number of Reservists were going to be given short term contracts in the PDF. Reserve Infantry won't be serving Overseas, there is too much demand in the PDF for Overseas for the RDF Infantry to get a look in.

Since the recession kicked off, the whole concept has been knocked on the head.

lcrcboy

Poccington wrote: »

No.

They wanted to send a very small number of Reservists to serve with KFOR in specialist roles. That had nothing to do with a re-org of the RDF, our neutrality or any other nonsense. It was merely the PDF had trouble filling one or two slots in specialist roles, so a very small number of Reservists were going to be given short term contracts in the PDF. Reserve Infantry won't be serving Overseas, there is too much demand in the PDF for Overseas for the RDF Infantry to get a look in.

Since the recession kicked off, the whole concept has been knocked on the head.

oh right that clears a few thing up but theres def a re-org going on I went up to my local barracks at a look into joining and while there is a recrutment ban on they said they were re-org the whole thing and making it more professional

onemorechance

Pushtrak wrote: »

No. I'd be against it. I dislike the power of religion in this country. Last thing we need is that.

.. again!

Pushtrak

onemorechance wrote: »

.. again!

Again as in +1, or again as in typical old Pushtrak?

kincsem

Happy New Year to all the CIA agents reading this thread.

onemorechance

Pushtrak wrote: »

Again as in +1, or again as in typical old Pushtrak?

as in we don't need religious power in this country again.

CHD

lol no

lol

biko

No


Poll?

rossie1977

lcrcboy wrote: »

you could go anywhere in the US without a stupid visa, plus Id say the americans would build massive motorways all over the country (or as they call it freeways)

what would ireland need with massive motorways all over the country?? there is more than double the amount of people living in NYC compared to the republic, anyway we are getting there as far as motorways goes, we have a great road from dublin to belfast, dublin to galway, now we just need to complete the dublin to cork, cork to galway and dublin to limerick routes and we are sorted as far as motorway go, there is no point building a 10 lane carriageway from sligo to letterkenny for example because there simply isn't the traffic on that route

lcrcboy

rossie1977 wrote: »

what would ireland need with massive motorways all over the country?? there is more than double the amount of people living in NYC compared to the republic, anyway we are getting there as far as motorways goes, we have a great road from dublin to belfast, dublin to galway, now we just need to complete the dublin to cork, cork to galway and dublin to limerick routes and we are sorted as far as motorway go, there is no point building a 10 lane carriageway from sligo to letterkenny for example because there simply isn't the traffic on that route

ya but look at all the lesser roads the americans would have those re-built aswell its just their nature, are roads are terrible and there something to be ashamed of

bonerm

God lord no! I'd hand us back to the Brits sooner than become part of the US.

lcrcboy

I put a poll in so please vote as it has been requested and has generated some interest;)

AARRRGH

Tea_Bag wrote: »

absolutely not!

Ireland isnt great atm, but its a hella better than America.

I think you'll find Ireland is a great atm if you have friends in Fianna Fail!

lcrcboy

AARRRGH wrote: »

I think you'll find Ireland is a great atm if you have friends in Fianna Fail!

haha brilliant:D:D

Liam Byrne

bonerm wrote: »

God lord no! I'd hand us back to the Brits sooner than become part of the US.

Isn't Britain part of that axis too, though ?

TheZohanS

lcrcboy wrote: »

ya but look at all the lesser roads the americans would have those re-built aswell its just their nature, are roads are terrible and there something to be ashamed of

Have you been licking the molasses off silage covers?

lcrcboy

TheZohan wrote: »

Have you been licking the molasses off silage covers?

what do you mean by that shure look at any other territory they protect and then take a look at the money they spend on there infastructre, there may be alot wrong with the US but that would be one of their benifits

Mr. CooL ICE

I think its a great idea

lcrcboy

LordChessington wrote: »

I think its a great idea

like the flag and imagine the day when a man from dublin,limerick,cork ect becomes president of the entire United States haha that would be the funniest thing to see:D

Gunnerkid

I voted yes I love america but i love taking da piss out of em to

brendansmith

lcrcboy wrote: »

muntain due would be on the shelves alongside cookie dough and root beer

muntain due??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

lcrcboy

brendansmith wrote: »

muntain due??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

how do you not know what mountain due is??? if you ever get the chance to go over to the states by a bottle or if you got family or friends going over get them to get you one.

TheWestsAwake

How awful, becoming part of or a protectorate of the United States of America would be a nightmare come true.

It’s more like time that Europe unites from the Bearing Sea to the Atlantic Ocean. I would love to see a United States of Europe to eventually take in all of Europe, all ex-states of the USSR, all overseas territories of European States, and the Asian & North African States which have Mediterranean Shores, i.e. the likes of Morocco, Tunisia, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon etc. obviously start with Europe. When Quabec finally gets independence we could let them apply, handy to have a beachhead in North America. Australia and New Zealand could apply as a European equivalent of Hawaii

As this unlikely I would be happy to have a United States of Europe to include all European nations.

EUROPE YES - america no

argonaut

Playing the devil's advocate here, I guess you could argue that Americans actually have the odd politician with integrity, and the two major political parties have some actual differences. Say what you will about the United States, they have slightly more of a choice than "centrist conservative party #1" or "centrist conservative party #2".

At least they've got Roe v. Wade, which is an inspiration to dogged social progressives like myself in our oh-so conservative Irish society.

Seloth

no no no no no :rolleyes:....tis a silly question to ask...pffft

Gunnerkid

I hope america takes us over ould be class root beer yaaaaa:D

IrishManSaipan

TheWestsAwake wrote: »

It’s more like time that Europe unites from the Bearing Sea to the Atlantic Ocean. I would love to see a United States of Europe to eventually take in all of Europe, all ex-states of the USSR, all overseas territories of European States, and the Asian & North African States which have Mediterranean Shores, i.e. the likes of Morocco, Tunisia, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon etc. obviously start with Europe. When Quabec finally gets independence we could let them apply, handy to have a beachhead in North America. Australia and New Zealand could apply as a European equivalent of Hawaii

Colonisation? You want the EU to accept the clusterfcuk of all clusterfcuks, Israel and Palestine? :eek:

lcrcboy

TheWestsAwake

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Colonisation? You want the EU to accept the clusterfcuk of all clusterfcuks, Israel and Palestine? :eek:

In time, yes, it would not be colonisation, for one the overseas territories are already European in either character or administraion, the French territories already departments of France. I would leave the door open to ex-Soviet and Med countries, not force them. I am thinking this would be a 150 year process not a 20 year one. For the shorterm we can think all of Europe except Russia (too big as yet)

lcrcboy

TheWestsAwake wrote: »

In time, yes, it would not be colonisation, for one the overseas territories are already European in either character or administraion, the French territories already departments of France. I would leave the door open to ex-Soviet and Med countries, not force them. I am thinking this would be a 150 year process not a 20 year one. For the shorterm we can think all of Europe except Russia (too big as yet)

Unlikley to happen

Elenxor

We don't want to upset the 'Gooloies'

They could really mess with our lap tops man!!!!!

minidazzler

Aren't we already in the United States of Europe?

Kev_ps3

Yeah Ive no problem with that.. aslong as we get to make the decisions;)

Black Swan

O'Bama would be our president?

lcrcboy

I dont really see a difference in the way the EU is going and what the USA is now, if Ireland had the option of joining the US or staying with the EU it would just be down to favoritism and which one could offer more for Ireland

caseyann

Culture clash would be crazy

Liam Byrne

lcrcboy wrote: »

how do you not know what mountain due is??? if you ever get the chance to go over to the states by a bottle or if you got family or friends going over get them to get you one.

Did you even check how it's spelt on the can image that you linked to ?

And actually, would we all have to pronounce "dew" and even "due" as "doo" ?

Because if we would it's another no from me for this ridiculous idea.

hitlersson666

atavan-halen wrote: »

I know a shop that sells them, they're €7.50 a box though

ohhhhhhh where?

lcrcboy

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Did you even check how it's spelt on the can image that you linked to ?

And actually, would we all have to pronounce "dew" and even "due" as "doo" ?

Because if we would it's another no from me for this ridiculous idea.

calm down it's a spelling mistake and this is after hours, it would have my vote anyways

MarcoT8

I love and hate lots about America.
I hate their foreign policy and their health care system and stuff like that,
but you got to love their junk food went there 4 months ago and went to a "Dunkin Donuts" (saw someone getting ratty about spelling that is the way the coffee shop is spelt) the food there is addictive also love places like New York, Boston and Florida.


A yes from me