AirFrance to 'suggest' obese buy a second seat

AARRRGH

I was joking.

starbelgrade

RMD wrote: »

Most Obese people I know are Obese for the following reasons:

1. Poor diet
2. Lack of attitude
3. **** all willpower to change their lifestyle.

Yes, certainly not their fault.

You missed one..

4. Because they have big bones.

kincsem

smccarrick wrote: »

Depends on what their loading ratio is- Ryanair operate on 110%-120% loading- others are a bit fairer- but there is an assumption that a number of passengers with tickets are not going to turn up....... Just cause they sell you a ticket- doesn't mean you've got a seat- and if you haven't got a seat but you have a ticket- you're entitled to a refund. Seems fair to me.......

I arrived at Ryanair five minutes before the desk was to close (I think 45 minutes before flight time). There was no Ryanair staff there. I asked at an adjacent Ryanair check-in. They told me to go to the Ryanair information / customer service desk about ten yards away. They asked me for my ticket information and passport. They took both into a back office. Ten minutes later they returned and told me I was late for the flight. Three other passengers who were also early were "Ryanair late". We were all at a total loss of our fares thanks to those ********.

They obviously sold our seats to other people.

Hate them.

bonerm

It's kinda strange that AirFrance are doing this. For some reason I've always thought France didn't have as many fatties as other countries? Certainly seemed that way any time I was in Paris.

The_Conductor

kincsem wrote: »

I arrived at Ryanair five minutes before the desk was to close (I think 45 minutes before flight time). There was no Ryanair staff there. I asked at an adjacent Ryanair check-in. They told me to go to the Ryanair information / customer service desk about ten yards away. They asked me for my ticket information and passport. They took both into a back office. Ten minutes later they returned and told me I was late for the flight. Three other passengers who were also early were "Ryanair late". We were all at a total loss of our fares thanks to those ********.

They obviously sold our seats to other people.

Hate them.

Michael O'Leary thinks its a great joke- listen to him talk about their loading ratios on any interview- hes actually proud of it. Bastard.

starbelgrade

bonerm wrote: »

It's kinda strange that AirFrance are doing this. For some reason I've always thought France didn't have as many fatties as other countries? Certainly seemed that way any time I was in Paris.

Maybe they should only allow Parisiens to fly on their airline then. The profits may drop, but the fat problem would be solved.

Auldloon

gavredking wrote: »

Fat people to be thrown in the under carriage with the luggage FTW.

The luggage is not thrown or stored in the under carriage.

drunken_munky52

Well this story doesn't seem to be an issue in France. Probably because I've never seen an a French person not look after themselves. This rule would be mored aimed at the Irish market, makes more sense.

starbelgrade

drunken_munky52 wrote: »

Well this story doesn't seem to be an issue in France. Probably because I've never seen an a French person not look after themselves. This rule would be mored aimed at the Irish market, makes more sense.

According to the Daily Finance, Overall, some 6.5 million French, 14.5% of the population, are now obese, and according to the New York Times, nearly 40 percent are overweight.

You might not have seen them, but that doesn't mean that they ain't at home stuffing their faces with delivered take aways.

drunken_munky52

starbelgrade wrote: »

According to the Daily Finance, Overall, some 6.5 million French, 14.5% of the population, are now obese, and according to the New York Times, nearly 40 percent are overweight.

You might not have seen them, but that doesn't mean that they ain't at home stuffing their faces with delivered take aways.

I admit there was no fact the back up. Double seat for Gerry Ryan then? He has some cheek to be hosting show operation transformation, the state of him,

starbelgrade

drunken_munky52 wrote: »

I admit there was no fact the back up. Double seat for Gerry Ryan then? He has some cheek to be hosting show operation transformation, the state of him,

He'd also have to book extra overhead storage space for some of his chins.

darkman2

AirFrance to 'suggest' obese buy a second seat

Seems logical in fairness. They do take up more space and having bigger seat would mean less seats and less money for the airlines.

drunken_munky52

If all passengers were disabled on one flight then an airline could technically be sued for not providing enough facilities to cater for such an event. Think the same thing applies for obese people.

skelliser

Manager: I'm terribly sorry, sir, but I'm afraid our facilities are not equipped to meet your needs.
Homer Simpson: What are you talking about?
Manager: What I'm saying, sir, is that a man of your carriage couldn't possibly fit in our seats.
Homer Simpson: I can sit in the aisle.
Manager: I'm afraid that would violate the fire code.
Bystander: Hey, Fatty! I've got a movie for ya: A Fridge Too Far!
[the rapidly-assembling crowd laughs]
Homer Simpson: Shame on all of you. Give me my dignity! I just came here to see Honk If You're Horny in peace.
Manager: Sir, if you'd just quiet down, I'd be happy to treat you to a garbage bag full of popcorn.
Homer Simpson: This may surprise you, but you can't buy me off with food. I'm sick of all your stereotypes and cheap jokes! The overweight individuals in this country are just as smart and talented and hard working as everybody else. And they're going to make their voices heard! All they need is a leader.

starbelgrade

drunken_munky52 wrote: »

If all passengers were disabled on one flight then an airline could technically be sued for not providing enough facilities to cater for such an event. Think the same thing applies for obese people.

That brings into the equation the question of, 'are fat people disabled?'

Obese people are "functionally disabled", according to a ruling by the Supreme Court of Canada.

In 2008, several Canadian airlines were appealing against a decision that allowed obese people two seats on a flight for the price of one. The Supreme Court chucked out the appeal, meaning that obese people continue to get two seats for one.

Victor

drunken_munky52 wrote: »

If all passengers were disabled on one flight then an airline could technically be sued for not providing enough facilities to cater for such an event. Think the same thing applies for obese people.

I don't think so. Most people with disabilities need little specific provision above the ordinary. I imagine reasonable provision is adequate, e.g. some airlines are happy with up to 4 blind people and / or 4 people with wheelchairs and / or 1 person in need of oxygen. Going beyond that is both statistically improbable and an safety issue.

R0ot

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Fatties shouldn't be allowed to fly.

astrofool

smccarrick wrote: »

Depends on what their loading ratio is- Ryanair operate on 110%-120% loading- others are a bit fairer- but there is an assumption that a number of passengers with tickets are not going to turn up....... Just cause they sell you a ticket- doesn't mean you've got a seat- and if you haven't got a seat but you have a ticket- you're entitled to a refund. Seems fair to me.......

Ryanair officially don't overbook flights, where did you get the 110-120% from?

(and it's intents and purposes, intensive purposes is ridiculous, and makes you look like you don't know what you're typing!

iregk

If your luggage is over weight you have to pay through the nose. Whats different here?

FunkZ

Hahaha excellent!

The_Conductor

iregk wrote: »

If your luggage is over weight you have to pay through the nose. Whats different here?

Perhaps they could have a BMI cutoff- say 26 or 27- this would mean tall people wouldn't be unfairly discriminated against- and overweight or obese people would either pay- or else it would be one hell of a good incentive to eat healthily and exercise more frequently.

Alcatel

I'm a frequent flyer, and lardarses piss me off no end. If you end up next to one, you have an uncomfortable flight the whole way, they invade the space I've paid for in my seat.

GrumPy

Fat people should'nt be aloud travel by aircraft. They should walk/swim/jog to their destination instead.

Pro's: Fatties lose weight, regular sized people remain comfortable
Con's: None

Unpossible

Morlar wrote: »

I know this isn't liveline or ranting and raving but it's equally annoying when parents have kids that are pepped up on sugar and hyper for the whole flight. I think kids/families should all be seated together in one big block either at the front or back of the plane. Let everyone else sit in relative peace.

I would love for a family section on a plane where I don't have to worry about my little ones disturbing other passengers. Its very hard to get them to sleep on a long haul flight and then they get all cranky. A small section where it doesn't matter if they scream to their hearts content, or if they walk around a little would be ideal. Of course unless you are on an A380 thats not an easy thing to put into a plane.