Man found dead on Bus

dereko1969

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0120/maynooth.html

This is very sad but can anyone explain to me why they needed to take the roof off the bus to get the guy out? If he was dead already could they not take him down the stairs?

Ham'nd'egger

dereko1969 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0120/maynooth.html

This is very sad but can anyone explain to me why they needed to take the roof off the bus to get the guy out? If he was dead already could they not take him down the stairs?

Presumably because the rigid stretcher beds would be too cumbersome to get up and down the stairwell. You'd assume if there is an easier way then they'd have done as such.

munchkin_utd

they could have broken a window and passed a stretcher out that way.

Who pays for the broken bus? The family of the dead man?
The bus insurance surely doesnt?

Danbo!

Found the removal of the roof odd as well. Could they not have opened the back emergency window, assuming it was a Dublin bus?

neilthefunkeone

Sad thing.. But maybe he was a "large Fella"..

Friend works in hosp and they had a fairly sizeable guy in once who needed a scan of some sort but he didnt fit in the machine.. he had to carted off to the Zoo to use their larger machines!!!!!

corktina

RIP and my sympathies to his Family.

Fire Service often get gung ho about these jobs...Theres a well known case of a guy sitting an accident victim in his car (otherwise not involved) awaiting help and losing his roof to the Fire service.

L1011

The roofs on double decker buses are replacable "easily", in that it can actually be done without the bus being an economic write-off. Its not actually an easy task, but it is possible.

Dublin Bus AV167 (I didn't remember this, had to google for the incident!) has been completely de-roofed in an accident and replaced; and at least one other AV has had serious damage to the roof supports and returned to service.

foggy_lad

if someone was very heavy it may not be possible to lift or remove them off the top deck without using lifting equipment which would require part of the roof to be lifted off.

wayne2107

The roof was not cut off. The man was removed from the bus via the upstairs emergency exit. This is the rear window of the bus.

foggy_lad

wayne2107 wrote: »

The roof was not cut off. The man was removed from the bus via the upstairs emergency exit. This is the rear window of the bus.

news report on rte stated the roof had been cut off

January

foggy_lad wrote: »

news report on rte stated the roof had been cut off

Do you believe everything the news says?

Victor

I was on a bus one day, oddly enough coming back from Maynooth, and I could hear a phone constantly ringing every few minutes, but not being answered. Then its owner keeled over in her seat. I put her in the recovery position on the floor, called an ambulance and explained things to the driver and he evacuated the passengers to another bus.

The phone rang again and it was her friend, who explained that she had a (moderately serious) medical condition and that she would need to go to hospital. The ambulance showed up and I explained things. The ambulance crew were happy to take things from there, but I remember them looking at her, imagining her on the stretcher, looking at the stairs, looking at her, imagining her on the stretcher ... them with a consternated look on their faces.

stop

Perhaps the folks over in the Emergency Services forum could enlighten us as to what the standard procedure for this type of thing is?

ciarsd

corktina wrote: »

RIP and my sympathies to his Family.

Fire Service often get gung ho about these jobs...Theres a well known case of a guy sitting an accident victim in his car (otherwise not involved) awaiting help and losing his roof to the Fire service.

I'd rather lose my cars roof if it meant keeping any risk of injury to my (or any other persons) back and neck to an absolute minimum.

wayne2107 wrote: »

The roof was not cut off. The man was removed from the bus via the upstairs emergency exit. This is the rear window of the bus.

Correct! RTE got it very very wrong. Obviously 3rd/4th hand information. Bus was very much intact.

corktina

ciarsd wrote: »

I'd rather lose my cars roof if it meant keeping any risk of injury to my (or any other persons) back and neck to an absolute minimum.

my wife being a paramedic I can tell you with a little authority that it is seldom necessry to remove a roof

ciarsd

ciarsd wrote: »

I'd rather lose my cars roof if it meant keeping any risk of injury to my (or any other persons) back and neck to an absolute minimum.

my wife being a paramedic I can tell you with a little authority that it is seldom necessry to remove a roof

Having most of the family working for DFB I also feel I can reply to this thread with a little authority.

corktina

touché

ciarsd

corktina wrote: »

touché