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    #542
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,140 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    snyper wrote: »
    The Times makes money publishing stories.Its what they do.


    Am i suprised they published the story despite been asked not to?

    No, if they complyed with the requests of everybody they would probably never post an article based on a criminal investigation

    Do i believe that the hacker took credit card details of users from boards.ie? Absolutey not... have you ever tried to donate to boards.ie related charities or subscribe? Afaik, they use a third party.
    I dont see how they could have stolen CC Details - its all done through Paypal.


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    #543
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    snyper wrote: »
    Do i believe that the hacker took credit card details of users from boards.ie? Absolutey not... have you ever tried to donate to boards.ie related charities or subscribe? Afaik, they use a third party.
    Overheal wrote: »
    I dont see how they could have stolen CC Details - its all done through Paypal.

    The story doesn't say anything like that, it says:
    has already used stolen passwords and email addresses to access credit from gambling websites

    which means that the password and email address they got from the hack was used to access a users gambling site account. Which based on threads on poker, could have happened, or at least the timing was pretty coincidental.

    So the times have a source 'close to the investigation' and have been reading the various threads on boards. Thats all there is really.

    Not sure why they shouldn't have printed the story though, very little in it and nothing worse than is in the papers/posted on boards every day of the week.


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    #544
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    we'll explain why, when its safe to explain why.


    EKRUIQ, you talk some nonsense in that post mate.

    DeV.


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    #545
    Bonito
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    EKRIUQ wrote: »
    Boards.ie now is not just a community website it also a partly commercial driven website as there's plenty of bills to pay. By releasing the information The Times had I'm sure would do more damage than good to the website as it could damage confidence by the users and members of the website. The owners have to look after the best interest of the site.

    Sorry what? As far as I'm concerned the team didn't have to go to the trouble of recovering the accounts etc. They could have said meh go make a new one but didn't. To me that shows how much they value their users!

    As for the people who had the same password for every single account including emails etc maybe this was a wake up call that they needed. Although the greatest of lengths and precautions are taken to ensure security online it's like contraception, it's never going to be 100% effective at keeping the little basta'ds out. Vary your passwords and at least then you only lose one account!

    Also if you happen to be one of the recovered accounts I'd stop whinging like a baby and appreciate the amount of work the lads are putting in getting everything back to normal!
    DeVore wrote: »
    we'll explain why, when its safe to explain why.


    EKRUIQ, you talk some nonsense in that post mate.

    DeV.

    +1


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    #546
    jumpguy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    As a matter of interest for you guys, I've never recieved the breach notification email (and yes, I'm 100% sure it's not in my spam box.)


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    #547
    Darragh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Darragh


    Thanks jumpguy, there were problems from our end with sending out the emails to that many people at once, so some people didn't get them, unfortunately.


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    #548
    Jonathan
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    MetroHerald p8 has a bit about it.


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    #549
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    jumpguy wrote: »
    As a matter of interest for you guys, I've never recieved the breach notification email (and yes, I'm 100% sure it's not in my spam box.)

    Your mail provider (yes, I know it's not a niche one either) is well known to be difficult to deliver legitimate bulk e-mail to.

    If we had been using our usual infrastructure to send the mails, we would have had a bit of a better chance. Unfortunately at the time which we sent out the e-mails Ross and I weren't willing to bring the machines back up since we hadn't finished confirming how far into our infrastructure the attack had gone.


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    #550
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Never underestimate the ethically suspect hoops that journalists will jump through in order to gather information. They have no social conscience when it comes to getting a good story.

    Also, as much of an ego boost as it may be, I seriously doubt that was the biggest online crime in the history of the state.


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    #551
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Don't take away our dream Seamus!!!! ;)



    DeV.


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    #552
    Time Magazine
    Registered Users Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    If it's any consolation lads, Latvia's GDP has dropped by 25% in the last two years ;)


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    #553
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,584 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Time Magazine wrote: »
    If it's any consolation lads, Latvia's GDP has dropped by 25% in the last two years ;)

    About the same as our own I would guess!


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    #554
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    kippy wrote: »
    About the same as our own I would guess!

    Coincidence...or a hackers scheme..

    /contacts paper


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    #555
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    EKRIUQ wrote: »
    Boards.ie now is not just a community website it also a partly commercial driven website as there's plenty of bills to pay. By releasing the information The Times had I'm sure would do more damage than good to the website as it could damage confidence by the users and members of the website. The owners have to look after the best interest of the site.

    DeVore wrote: »
    we'll explain why, when its safe to explain why.


    EKRUIQ, you talk some nonsense in that post mate.

    DeV.

    Well its true in fairness. People have to get paid, Boards needs an income.

    The days of running boards being a hobby is gone, Like the days when boards members were only people who worked in IT and Played Quake.


    Anyway, I'm sure it didnt help having "Boards.ie Hacked" on the cover of the Hearld Metro the next morning...


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    #556
    Buford T Justice
    Registered Users Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Hi

    I sent an email to hello@boards.ie on the 8th feb, and I sent a pm to Darragh last week and I got no reply

    Just wondering guys, can you help me?


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    #557
    coldwood92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭coldwood92


    Well done to the team of boards


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    #558
    The Boarder Man
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭The Boarder Man


    Gah - what the?

    I've just received a PM from the Boards team now and it's the first I've ever heard of this. What happened to the email to all members "composed" on the 22nd of January??? :confused:

    (I've checked and did receive a thread update email on the 25th so no problem with my email).


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    #559
    Basq
    Registered Users Posts: 43,904 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    The Boarder Man wrote: »
    I've just received a PM from the Boards team now and it's the first I've ever heard of this. What happened to the email to all members "composed" on the 22nd of January??? :confused:
    It went into a couple of people's "Spam" folder... myself included!


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    #560
    The Boarder Man
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭The Boarder Man


    basquille wrote: »
    It went into a couple of people's "Spam" folder... myself included!

    Not likely. The email account I use for Boards goes to two different mail providers. One of them is over zealous so I check the Spam folder regularly, the other doesn't filter much at all and it's not there either. Possibly got caught in a server side filter???


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    #561
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    The Boarder Man wrote: »
    Not likely. The email account I use for Boards goes to two different mail providers. One of them is over zealous so I check the Spam folder regularly, the other doesn't filter much at all and it's not there either. Possibly got caught in a server side filter???
    It's a known issue I think.


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    #562
    .BrianJM
    Subscribers Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭.BrianJM


    I too, received a PM but my only thought was that some some people, who hadn't heeded the password advice, had been 'hacked' and that the PMs were a gentle reminder to those who didn't take the matter seriously.

    ~~~

    [I was also one of the many who did not receive an email but it wasn't really needed. The bold red message at the top of the front page was good enough.]


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    #563
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Correct, this is a gentle reminder. If you have already changed your passwords on other sites, then you can ignore this message.


    The Gardai have been excellent working with us, when the whole thing is over I hope to be able to bring you all up to speed as its a fairly odd story and its still unravelling but for now, bear with us. :)

    There is no real news except to remind you that you should change your passwords on other sites if they were the same as the password you used for Boards before the hack and you havent changed them since. Phew.


    DeV.


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    #564
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    DeVore wrote: »
    Correct, this is a gentle reminder. If you have already changed your passwords on other sites, then you can ignore this message.


    The Gardai have been excellent working with us, when the whole thing is over I hope to be able to bring you all up to speed as its a fairly odd story and its still unravelling but for now, bear with us. :)

    There is no real news except to remind you that you should change your passwords on other sites if they were the same as the password you used for Boards before the hack and you havent changed them since. Phew.


    DeV.
    Sorry just to ask not exactly sure what my original password I used on Boards.ie. But how serious is the threat would you say. Are these hackers still at large?


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    #565
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    The information was compromised, that genie rarely goes back in its lamp. If you wanted to be safe why not take 5 minutes and change your passwords on any important sites you use, its a good idea either way.


    DeV.


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    #566
    Spiritoftheseventies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    DeVore wrote: »
    The information was compromised, that genie rarely goes back in its lamp. If you wanted to be safe why not take 5 minutes and change your passwords on any important sites you use, its a good idea either way.


    DeV.
    Thats fair enough but cant understand why we cant have access to our original passwords. Surely they were stored.Appreciate that Boards took the trouble to notify us about this though


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    #567
    Bonito
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    Changed my password earlier. When I clicked save I got a pop up asking me to confrim which user I was changing passwords for. I only have one account, though. :confused:


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    #568
    Conor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Conor


    Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »
    Thats fair enough but cant understand why we cant have access to our original passwords. Surely they were stored.Appreciate that Boards took the trouble to notify us about this though

    We blanked all the passwords on the day of the attack.

    While they still are in some backups, it takes hours to restore from backups and then we'd have to crack the hashed version of your password to give it to you in a form recognisable to you. If your password was strong, that could take quite a while too.


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    #569
    The Boarder Man
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭The Boarder Man


    Sherifu wrote: »
    It's a known issue I think.

    Sorry to bang on about this; but if it was a known issue in January why wasn't another email or PM sent out then?


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    #570
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    The Boarder Man wrote: »
    Sorry to bang on about this; but if it was a known issue in January why wasn't another email or PM sent out then?
    I can't answer that(if there was an answer about it I missed it). I'd appreciate an explanation about it too...


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    #571
    Daemos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    Boarder Man, could you answer something for me. How can this be the first time you've heard about it if you had to reset your password when the site came back online to get access to your account back?


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