Pretty Little Liars - ABC Family [** Spoilers **]

Richard Dower

I haven't seen the ep. - but a rwiter on PLL stated that

Caleb was shot by Nate in his dying moments

I also think the other bombshell is a red harring, a placeholder until PLL retuns in January, speculation widely suggests now

Tody is a spy on double agent, working alone knownst to the girls he's trying get info on the A team by consorting with Mona

Richard Dower

Seriously, less than a minute? :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3So3NU7tbg

_Bella_

It was all a bit riddiculous, but in an enjoyable way! The show is pretty lacking in direction but its very easy to watch and I love seeing what they will throw at us next. I was sure for the entire episode that Mona was going to be shot by Caleb and didn't really see the Nate thing coming.

Richard Dower

We broke 32,000! :eek: =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=865isl_gvEs

Richard Dower

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Richard Dower

WOO HOO!!...renewed!!...season 4!!!!!

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/10/04/pretty-little-liars-renewed-for-season-four-by-abc-family/151576/

Richard Dower

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Richard Dower

Hallowen special on tomorrow night, and season 3B returns January 8th.
BTW....tomorrow night.....

someone will DIE!

:eek:

trendy88

Is tomorrow night a stand alone episode? Like last season I think it was a flashback so it wasnt part of the overall continuity! Looking forward to it either way. This show is def my number one guilty pleasure.

Richard Dower

trendy88 wrote: »

Is tomorrow night a stand alone episode? Like last season I think it was a flashback so it wasnt part of the overall continuity! Looking forward to it either way. This show is def my number one guilty pleasure.

I don't think it's a flashback ep. like last season....think it's related to the current timeline/events this season. But considering i haven't seen any of season 3 :P i could be wrong....you'll know soon enough

trendy88

Last nights ep was fantastic. Continued on from where we left off last and revealed loads of interesting tidbits concerning the overall mystery. Im becoming more and more suspicious of Ezra-not entirely sure why but I just dont trust him. The way he showed up at the end seemed all too coincidental. Only criticism of the whole thing would be Adam Lamberts acting. The scene where he is talking to Aria felt so awkward. Dont think the man has a career on the silver screen ahead of him. Not a bad singer though.

Richard Dower

trendy88 wrote: »

Last nights ep was fantastic. Continued on from where we left off last and revealed loads of interesting tidbits concerning the overall mystery. Im becoming more and more suspicious of Ezra-not entirely sure why but I just dont trust him. The way he showed up at the end seemed all too coincidental. Only criticism of the whole thing would be Adam Lamberts acting. The scene where he is talking to Aria felt so awkward. Dont think the man has a career on the silver screen ahead of him. Not a bad singer though.

cool...so

who died?

Btw....33,000

trendy88

Richard Dower wrote: »

cool...so

who died?

In a shocking twist-

Garrett

Richard Dower

PLL broke Twitter records again last night!!

http://trendrr.tv/main/chart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=017TOBrlLdU

_Bella_

Thoroughly enjoyed that episode. There was drama from beginning to end and loads of plot twists. Not really sure about them throwing Aria's dad in a potential murder suspect, I can't really see it ending up being him. I agree with the above about Ezra seeming suspicious, I just can't see what his motive is though.

I also totally agree about Adam Lamberts acting, it seemed like he was trying to hit on her but I'm pretty sure he's gay... The scene was completely unnecessary.

On a side note I really want to go on a Halloween train.

trendy88

_Bella_ wrote: »

Not really sure about them throwing Aria's dad in a potential murder suspect, I can't really see it ending up being him.

I'd she was blackmailing him about the affair he was having with the student at the time. She was hardly sleeping with him considering she was 14 and this is ABC Family although you never know.

This ep was actually better than the midseason finale. Also did they clarify how caleb came to be shot?

zirafute

they never clarified how Caleb got shot but he recovered fairly quickly.I really like all the twists and turns and I hope that by the end of this season girls will find out that Toby is A accomplice as well...I am very weary about Lucas as well...he seemed very shady this season.And that creepy girl in the house.when Hanahs mother said that she felt cold and the hand in the end.I really hope they won't turn this series into paranormal activity thought it would loose it's suspense.

Richard Dower

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Richard Dower

Anyone catch the two latest eps?....i hear everyone is waiting for the Toby reveal, and Mona on the loose?....lol, its doing gangbusters in the ratings....it got a massive 3.5 female demo last week!

Richard Dower

"Pretty Little Liars": Could Spencer, Aria, Hanna, and Emily ever be replaced? Time moves very slowly in Rosewood -- but eventually, the Liars have to grow up and move on from high school. Executive producer Oliver Goldstick tells us that the writers have a plan for the current Liars through the summer after their senior year. "I think five [seasons] is what we originally thought," he says. "But there are ways to invigorate this show, interestingly enough. We've talked, internally, about introducing four new Pretty Little Liars; we've talked about that with the studio. There could be four new girls after these girls graduate, who witness or participate in some sort of crime, and all of a sudden you have four new girls who are lying. I don't know! But for now, with these girls, we've all thought that we've got five seasons in them."

:rolleyes: don't like the idea of this at all!...sounds like some of the girls, Ashley Benson et al wants out and to do movies. But to introduce 4 new girls and try receate the same show seems like cash grabbing and stretching the show way beyond its shelf life!

I mean, 5 seasons is streatching the storyline and fan patience to the limit as is, now having a new cast/mystery is taking the piss :mad:

tomissex

The latest episode :eek::eek:!!

Meredith's a psycho and Spencer knows about Toby!!

Great episode! Felt the season was starting to lag a bit but it's definitely drawn me back in after that!

meoklmrk91

Richard Dower wrote: »

"Pretty Little Liars": Could Spencer, Aria, Hanna, and Emily ever be replaced? Time moves very slowly in Rosewood -- but eventually, the Liars have to grow up and move on from high school. Executive producer Oliver Goldstick tells us that the writers have a plan for the current Liars through the summer after their senior year. "I think five [seasons] is what we originally thought," he says. "But there are ways to invigorate this show, interestingly enough. We've talked, internally, about introducing four new Pretty Little Liars; we've talked about that with the studio. There could be four new girls after these girls graduate, who witness or participate in some sort of crime, and all of a sudden you have four new girls who are lying. I don't know! But for now, with these girls, we've all thought that we've got five seasons in them."

:rolleyes: don't like the idea of this at all!...sounds like some of the girls, Ashley Benson et al wants out and to do movies. But to introduce 4 new girls and try receate the same show seems like cash grabbing and stretching the show way beyond its shelf life!

I mean, 5 seasons is streatching the storyline and fan patience to the limit as is, now having a new cast/mystery is taking the piss :mad:

I can't see that ever working, a switch in cast would only last a season, if that, before being cancelled. They are defiantely cash cowing it, but it's their biggest hit to date so I'm not surprised, but they need to leave it go when the time comes and move on.

tomissex

Another solid episode full of questions. My heart breaks for Spencer, I wish she'd just open up to the girls!

Funny mistake: Final scene in the off licence "Hey Dave, make sure you get some ID"... name tag clearly said Kyle

Richard Dower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVVpw7Q1QyM

meoklmrk91

Great episode, PLL at its best, only wish spencer got a few digs in at mona, can't wait till next week.

Richard Dower

Spencer banged up in the nuthouse! :eek:

trendy88

Surely thats

Wilden that spencer found

Obvs

Toby wants them to think hes dead

And Come on Spencers supposed to be the smart one. Why wouldnt she make

sure it was him before going all cray cray

_Bella_

Is the tattoo one that Toby had? That's how I thought she identified him. Such a good episode, so much tension. I'm interested to see how this storyline with Hannah's mum plays out, it could be an interesting storyline for next season if she was to go to jail. I would be surprised if Wildon is dead, he only really came to suspicion in the last few episodes so I would have thought they might have had the storyline play out a bit longer. Loved the scene with Spencer in the psych ward!

Richard Dower

the general consensus is season 3B has been excellent, the ratings are superb...

Richard Dower

_Bella_ wrote: »

Is the tattoo one that Toby had? That's how I thought she identified him. Such a good episode, so much tension. I'm interested to see how this storyline with Hannah's mum plays out, it could be an interesting storyline for next season if she was to go to jail. I would be surprised if Wildon is dead, he only really came to suspicion in the last few episodes so I would have thought they might have had the storyline play out a bit longer. Loved the scene with Spencer in the psych ward!

its not toby, spencer didn't even take off his helmet....its wilden id say....I think toby wants the A team to think he is dead.

Jaxxy

Richard Dower wrote: »

its not toby, spencer didn't even take off his helmet....its wilden id say....I think toby wants the A team to think he is dead.

That's what I immediately assumed too, but maybe that's where they want our thoughts to go.

Spencer in the ward was gas. Although I'm surprised it has taken this long for one of them to "crack". Seriously peoples. This season in particular has been unbelievable, I'd have gone off the reservoir after season one alone. Having said that, I'm not buying it. This is a cunning Spencer ploy that I think she's had brewing since Tobygate. She looks like she's hit bottom and now she's taken herself out of the A game.

Total lack of Melissa too as soon as Spencer hopped in the shower for a steam. Where are you, crazy sister?

Also hating this Ezra having a son side-plot malarkey, but it's a good, solid out if they want to write off that previously controversial but now boring relationship.

Anywho, great second half from this season of PLL, it's bat**** mental but it delivers!

Richard Dower

Jaxxy wrote: »

That's what I immediately assumed too, but maybe that's where they want our thoughts to go.

Spencer in the ward was gas. Although I'm surprised it has taken this long for one of them to "crack". Seriously peoples. This season in particular has been unbelievable, I'd have gone off the reservoir after season one alone. Having said that, I'm not buying it. This is a cunning Spencer ploy that I think she's had brewing since Tobygate. She looks like she's hit bottom and now she's taken herself out of the A game.

Total lack of Melissa too as soon as Spencer hopped in the shower for a steam. Where are you, crazy sister?

Also hating this Ezra having a son side-plot malarkey, but it's a good, solid out if they want to write off that previously controversial but now boring relationship.

Anywho, great second half from this season of PLL, it's bat**** mental but it delivers!

^ I thought that was well, and others that its all part of a cunning Spoby plan from the outset. Spencer is playing A and maybe by being nutso can join the A team like Toby.

As for if he is dead,,,,,well there is a certain spoiler out there for the season 4 premiere

CookieMonster.x

Toby isn't dead, his tattoo is on his front. The body had a tattoo on his back!!
Also I think he may be disappearing to help the girls (or so I hope). And I also think that Mona might offer Spencer a place on the A Team and she might accept it as Mona said she doesn't know the bigger picture and Spencer said he has lost everything already. She also said she's not who they think she is and she can't be trusted (A? Girl in the red coat??). So maybe she'll join to find out who it is. I can seriously see Spencer deteriorating even further.. I don't like this!! Gets me all emotional :P
If anyone has heard, the finale is on in 2 weeks. I think the girl in the red coat is revealed along with a body (not totally sure about a body) and the Liars find something out way bigger than they can handle..

I just love this show.. It gets me all emotional with Spencer :P can't wait for the next episode!

Richard Dower

A lot of respected critics are giving Troian a lot of praise for her acting in recent episodes.

Richard Dower

CookieMonster.x wrote: »

Toby isn't dead, his tattoo is on his front. The body had a tattoo on his back!!
Also I think he may be disappearing to help the girls (or so I hope). And I also think that Mona might offer Spencer a place on the A Team and she might accept it as Mona said she doesn't know the bigger picture and Spencer said he has lost everything already. She also said she's not who they think she is and she can't be trusted (A? Girl in the red coat??). So maybe she'll join to find out who it is. I can seriously see Spencer deteriorating even further.. I don't like this!! Gets me all emotional :P
If anyone has heard, the finale is on in 2 weeks. I think the girl in the red coat is revealed along with a body (not totally sure about a body) and the Liars find something out way bigger than they can handle..

I just love this show.. It gets me all emotional with Spencer :P can't wait for the next episode!

Toby is alive but...........

Lauren D.: Toby can't really be dead on Pretty Little Liars, right?!
Well, we do meet his mother in the season four premiere, but she's in her pajamas, which is a weird detail, no? Also not a good sign: A reporter will also be in the episode, detailing a sad story, as well as a State cop who is part of an investigation. Ruh-roh!

http://uk.eonline.com/news/395053/spoiler-chat-glee-pretty-little-liars-new-girl-scandal-teen-wolf-and-more

^ no, no!....nah this is a red herring, Marlene king messing with my head....I REFUSE to belive Toby is RIP......i'm in deep denial

Richard Dower

Richard Dower wrote: »

A lot of respected critics are giving Troian a lot of praise for her acting in recent episodes.

Even TVline are giving Troian mad props for her acting, not hard as the other girls [i'm looking at YOU Emily and Aria] are woeful actors :rolleyes:

http://tvline.com/2013/03/09/troian-bellisario-pretty-little-liars-season-3-performer-of-the-week/

tomissex

Richard Dower wrote: »

Even TVline are giving Troian mad props for her acting, not hard as the other girls [i'm looking at YOU Emily and Aria] are woeful actors :rolleyes:

One thing that doesn't help any of them is the way the camera stays on them for ages after they're done talking! They have to keep shifting their eyes and look shocked at each other, it's so awkward!

Richard Dower

Season finale was...........:eek:

meoklmrk91

Richard Dower wrote: »

Season finale was...........:eek:

It was, very little in the way of answers, just more bloody questions, but its why I love the show, now just have wait until June to find out

what was in the damn boot! (My guess is Ali's remains)

Also did anyone else find it wierd that

Spencer and the girls fecked off back to Rosewood with Mona and didn't even go looking for Toby despite the fact that last time she saw him he was running off into the woods after someone with a torch and she told him to be careful. The girl with the torch was Melissa or Jenna I'd say but of course I could be wrong.

trendy88

More questions than answers again! So frustrating!! I guess there going down the twin route after all. Or are they? Nothing definitive really. In terms of action though, was a good finale.

tomissex

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Also did anyone else find it wierd that

Spencer and the girls fecked off back to Rosewood with Mona and didn't even go looking for Toby despite the fact that last time she saw him he was running off into the woods after someone with a torch and she told him to be careful. The girl with the torch was Melissa or Jenna I'd say but of course I could be wrong.

Exact thing I came on to post! Very silly. But brilliant otherwise!

Richard Dower

trendy88 wrote: »

More questions than answers again! So frustrating!! I guess there going down the twin route after all. Or are they? Nothing definitive really. In terms of action though, was a good finale.

Yup...feckin show has become more complicated then Lost! :P
No joke....the amount of plot holes, red herrings, dropped plot points and dozens of unanswered questions is really grating on avid watchers now.

Sometimes I think Marlene King forgets she's making a show for teen girls!, it's not Shakespere or Twin Peaks! :rolleyes:

They are 100% making it up as they go along and have no idea who A is imo, I think they'll only decide that when they 100% know the show is ending. I think they *need* to pull a Lost, literally....as in the network announce it'll run 6 seasons and a proper end.

That way they can plan and hopefully plot out answering the numerous questions, I mean...the show is sooo complicated now even i'm lost! :eek:

Techno_Toaster

What channel were ye all watching this on? I'm way behind

Richard Dower

Techno_Toaster wrote: »

What channel were ye all watching this on? I'm way behind

US pace.....so that's all we can say , but it is shown in the UK on MTV I think - not sure where they are upto though.

_Bella_

Its a bit of a mess now to be honest, and we all knew that once it was longer than 2 seasons it would be. At the beginning the mystery centred around two key questions, who is A and who killed Ali. I believe they should have had one A and the same or a separate killer. Spread over two seasons, at most 3 it would have been fine but now we have the whole A team idea which is overly complicating matters (seriously the person behind this arrived in a personal airplane?). Some may argue the premise of the show was never believable, but it certainly isn't now!

Richard Dower

Bit early no?....renewed for a fifth season: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/03/26/pretty-little-liars-renewed-for-fifth-season-ravenswood-spin-off-announced/175186/

meoklmrk91

Richard Dower wrote: »

Bit early no?....renewed for a fifth season: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/03/26/pretty-little-liars-renewed-for-fifth-season-ravenswood-spin-off-announced/175186/

I don't think so in fairness, it has been by far the most successful show that ABCF has ever had, it performs exceptionally well with women in all demographics, plus it's a social network phemnomenon, the season 2 finale made it most tweeted and face booked series if all time, not too shabby.

As for this spinoff I am a bit perplexed, it would seem for now atleast that it has very little at all to do with PLL except that the town in which it is set is near Rosewood. But hey I. Marlene King is showrunning so we'll see where it goes.

Richard Dower

:eek: Haleb = RIP....Tyler Blackburn heading for Ravenswood....new love interest for Hannah?

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/04/pretty-little-liars-sends-tyler-blackburn-to-ravenswood.html

Pity they couldn't send Ezra off...not to Ravenswood, just bugger off! :rolleyes:

Richard Dower

oh!... 'citing! :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mdsvUtnLTA

P.s. - not buying nice Mona, she is up to something! :mad:
P.P.s. - we broke 37,000!

Richard Dower

Special recap episode aired last night, covering the first 3 seasons and the ongoing -A plotline, the season 4 premiere is next Tuesday.