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What foreign political party would you vote for if it was in Ireland?

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  • 23-01-2010 8:36pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭


    Exactly what it says on the tin, people! What party from another country would you vote for if they ran in an election here, and why?

    For me, as someone who is socially very liberal and economically centrist/centre-left, it would have to be the Dutch political party Democraten 66, a progressive-liberal party focused on political reform. They are responsible for many of the Netherlands' famous liberal social policies (same-sex marriage, etc.) as well as major reforms to their health and education systems, which many Irish commentators and parties are now looking at. I don't agree with everything they stand for, though, but overall I am very impressed by them. I noticed that they seem to be from the same international "grouping" as our own ill-fated Progressive Democrats, though I think this party is more people-focused than profit-focused, looking at their track record.

    Also, this is a serious thread, so no people saying things like "Oh, ZANU-PF, though you'd hardly notice a difference from FF, hyuck, hyuck..." :rolleyes:

    Over to you, folks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Red_Marauder


    I'd keep it in the archipelago (lets not use that other term) and vote British Conservative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    Sulmac wrote: »
    Exactly what it says on the tin, people! What party from another country would you vote for if they ran in an election here, and why?

    For me, as someone who is socially very liberal and economically centrist/centre-left, it would have to be the Dutch political party Democraten 66, a progressive-liberal party focused on political reform. They are responsible for many of the Netherlands' famous liberal social policies (same-sex marriage, etc.) as well as major reforms to their health and education systems, which many Irish commentators and parties are now looking at. I don't agree with everything they stand for, though, but overall I am very impressed by them. I noticed that they seem to be from the same international "grouping" as our own ill-fated Progressive Democrats, though I think this party is more people-focused than profit-focused, looking at their track record.

    Also, this is a serious thread, so no people saying things like "Oh, ZANU-PF, though you'd hardly notice a difference from FF, hyuck, hyuck..." :rolleyes:

    Over to you, folks!


    on one hand you say you are economically to the left and that the dutch party you would vote for are of this pursuasion also yet you then compare this party to the progressive democrats , the pd,s were to the right economically were they not


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Sulmac


    irishh_bob wrote: »
    on one hand you say you are economically to the left and that the dutch party you would vote for are of this pursuasion also yet you then compare this party to the progressive democrats , the pd,s were to the right economically were they not

    I said they weren't like the PDs, despite being in the same international group.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    I would probably vote for the Parti Sociale from France. They are probably further to the Left than our Labour party but not as far as the Communists. Plus, I love France:D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,588 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Sinn Fein?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    NPD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    Notwithstanding your desire for a serious thread, in all probability any party, including your Dutch Liberal Socialists, could become another FF, if operating in the free for all gorge fest that is the Irish political system.
    The Norwegian Labour party has always struck me as the nearest thing to real democrats in Europe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Die Linke
    French Communist Party
    United Socialist Party of Venezuela
    Socialist Labour Party


    All very good political parties IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Sulmac


    bmaxi wrote: »
    Notwithstanding your desire for a serious thread, in all probability any party, including your Dutch Liberal Socialists, could become another FF, if operating in the free for all gorge fest that is the Irish political system.

    I agree wholeheartedly. In a perfect world, we'd have a complete change of electoral system and political attitudes and move away from having parish politics on a national level.

    ...we can all dream. :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Maebh


    Le sigh, ah to have a real lefty political party...

    I don't honestly know. I'm doing a project right now on Finland and their right-wing political party would put our left-wingers to shame. But sure, there are no real left-wingers here anymore. And Scandinavia is so civilised, they'd come here, take one look around, scream and vow never to return.

    So long as they assassinate their predecessors, I wouldn't mind that much!

    (hyuck hyuck)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Jim236


    Sand wrote: »
    Sinn Fein?

    I suppose Fianna Fáil are foreign now are they cause they've organised in the North?:rolleyes:


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Soldie


    Maebh wrote: »
    Le sigh, ah to have a real lefty political party...

    Surely, you're not serious?

    ip4c5v.png

    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


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    Gilmore hardly ever smiles , never mind grin smugly. And I doubt he would be overly concerned about the appearance of Ron Paul, because he would know his brand of politics wouldn't have a hope in hell of catching on over here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,937 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Die Linke
    French Communist Party
    United Socialist Party of Venezuela
    Socialist Labour Party


    All very good political parties IMO.


    you left out the north korean worker's party. then we'd have some cracking monuments to look at. and a little badge with our dear leader's face on it.

    the canadian liberal party though would be my choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    Soldie wrote: »
    Surely, you're not serious?

    ip4c5v.png

    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    Without wanting to get into another arena. All that represents to me is the extent of the public sector wage bill.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ChocolateSauce


    The only major party in the world I would vote for because I thought they were worth it (as opposed to voting for the least bad) is the British Liberal Democrats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    i would invite the CCP

    or Hugo Chavez :D


    so the people of Ireland re-examine their "romantic" views of socialism/communism


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Maebh


    Soldie wrote: »
    Surely, you're not serious?

    ip4c5v.png

    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    Social welfare =/= socialism....

    But hey, I could get way off topic here ^__^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Maebh wrote: »
    Social welfare =/= socialism....

    But hey, I could get way off topic here ^__^

    Socialism
    Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended
    Modern social democrats also promote tax-funded welfare programs and regulation of markets; many, particularly in European welfare states, refer to themselves as socialists, despite holding pro-capitalist viewpoints, thus adding ambiguity to the meaning of the term "socialist".


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