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Carling Cup Semi Final
Kick Off: 8.00pm
Sky Sports 1

Team news

Ferguson could be forced to make changes in defence with Rio Ferdinand facing a three-match ban from the Football Association after being charged with violent conduct following his clash with Hull City's Craig Fagan on Saturday.

Ferdinand, who had only just returned from a long-term back injury, could decide to appeal against the charge, which would leave him free to face City but could incur an additional penalty if he is found guilty.

Serbia international Nemanja Vidic is nearing a comeback after tweaking a nerve in his leg in the warm-up to the FA Cup defeat by Leeds, with Wes Brown another possibility to partner Jonny Evans at centre-back.

In-form striker Wayne Rooney, who scored all four goals in the victory over the Tigers, will lead the line and veteran midfielder Ryan Giggs is set for a recall, while John O'Shea and Owen Hargreaves remain long-term absentees.

Mancini is still unable to call upon January signing Patrick Vieira who continues to struggle with a calf problem, while Roque Santa Cruz will not feature after suffering a similar problem in the defeat at Everton.

Striker Emmanuel Adebayor is back with the club following the trauma of the gun attack on the Togo team bus, but may not yet be in the right frame of mind to feature, while Ivory Coast defender Kolo Toure has only recently returned from the African Cup of Nations.

Robinho will be in the squad despite ongoing discussions over his future ahead of an anticipated loan return to his homeland, while defensive duo Joleon Lescott and Wayne Bridge (both knee) are still on the treatment table.

I can't bloody well wait for this!! Going for 2-0 :cool:

Absolutely no idea what the line up will be! Don't even know if Ando is in Manchester? I think I'd like Rio to start, even though it may mean a 4 match ban instead.

mike65

Sky Sports eh? From 8 million viewers to three men and a dog in a pub.

Utd to turn it round and win by the one goal.

syngindub

united to hammer city tonight. no question

Third_Echelon

Should be a good game indeed... I can see united winning and going through.

This will be a very big test of City's cridentials as 'top 4' material.... City still have a lot to do if they want to win this tie. I think Sir Alex will need to start with 2 up front and go for it from the off.

I'll be watching Everton vs Sunderland though

syngindub

Third_Echelon wrote: »

I'll be watching Everton vs Sunderland though

love it

syngindub

will send Mancini and that feck'in scarf home with tails between their legs

stovelid

Good to see the needle back in the real North-West derby.

United to win 2-0 and Bellamy to get sent off.

folan

2-2 draw, city to get a late equaliser.

City hopefully start with a bit of good attacking football and take it ManUtd, instead of the sitting back that happened in eastlands.

Johner

Going for a 2-2 draw tonight but wouldn't be surprised if United steam roll them.

steps_3314

Johner wrote: »

You'd want to relax there lad.

Going for a 2-2 draw tonight as well tonight.

Just abit of humour.

Johner

I was just joking.

I'll edit my quote so.

steps_3314

Johner wrote: »

I'll edit my quote so.

Should be a great game. Counting down the hours from the office.

SlickRic

2-1 utd in normal time.

a late winner for Utd in ET.

if City can stay in it for the first half (i expect a bit of a Utd onslaught), then it could turn into a really cracking game of football.

if City score, it better be Tevez, just for the reaction from all sides - him, Neville, the respective support.

Johner

I was hoping United to go through would be about 2/1 to stick a few quid on it, 10/11 though.

Aidric

SlickRic wrote: »

2-1 utd in normal time.

a late winner for Utd in ET.

Same as that and it's where my money will be going. 9-1 on betfair for that scoreline and i'll be having a few quid on draw half time utd full time @ 4-1 also.

Xavi6

I'm nervous as fook. Gonna try get 4 or 5 hours kip before it but don't know how I'm gonna sleep

I see us going down 2-0 unfortunately, though I said roughly the same last week.

Johner

Just start drinking now!

Mikeyt086

Expecting one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_MuUcxHATo

ntlbell

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Expecting one of these:

Don't jinx it.

UnitedIrishman

Going to go for a 1-0 win in normal time and 2-0 AET to United as City try and get a goal in extra time to win it.

Expecting a cracking game although it depends on what Mancini decides to do. When Hughes' team came earlier in the season they went at us and nearly got something from the game - albeit fortuitously. Mancini strikes me as a defensively orientated coach and if they try and sit back and soak up the pressure, we should be well able to break them down.

"All together now.. My old man said be a city fan.."

grames_bond

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Going to go for a 1-0 win in normal time and 2-0 AET to United as City try and get a goal in extra time to win it.

erm....if utd win 1-0 doesnt that mean there will be no extra time and utd will just go through on away goals?!

Vic Vinegar

grames_bond wrote: »

erm....if utd win 1-0 doesnt that mean there will be no extra time and utd will just go through on away goals?!

Away goals don't count until after extra time in the league cup!

hoody

grames_bond wrote: »

erm....if utd win 1-0 doesnt that mean there will be no extra time and utd will just go through on away goals?!

Away goals don't count as anything extra until the end of extra time for some reason. So if United win 1-0 in 90 minutes, it goes to extra time, and if the scores then stay at 2-2 on aggregate, Utd win at the end of extra time. See rule 13.5 here

Columbia

Please God let United win tonight.

3-1 to them for me. 1-1 and tense going into the last 10 minutes, United get a second (by some means which everyone exept Roberto Mancini will complain about) before the 90, and then a third in extra time.

CHD

2-2

3 red cards

Fergie will look like he is going to blow, Bellamy will burst Neville in the tunnel.

event

will start at 100miles an hour but after 20 minutes it will go to shíte

city will try and defend and hold what they have

MagicMarker

Looks like Rio will be playing tonight.

ntlbell

MagicMarker wrote: »

Looks like Rio will be playing tonight.

appeal? or?

ntlbell

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/27/rio-ferdinand-manchester-united-ban

powerfade

How come Sky have it tonight but didn't have the first leg, load of bullsh!t.. Down the local then I guess.

Delighted Rio is taking the 4 match hit now instead, can't let our 'noisy neighbours' get one over on us tonight! This could be epic, should be a cracking atmosphere in OT tonight.

Dave!

I'm nervous

ncc98071

Should be a cracker of a match, and hopefully united come out winners

kraggy

Can someone provide a reliable linky for this? Haven't the money to go to the pub.

Extended highlights on BBC later on but can't wait for that.

Thanks,

ntlbell

kraggy wrote: »

Can someone provide a reliable linky for this? Haven't the money to go to the pub.

Extended highlights on BBC later on but can't wait for that.

Thanks,

check the stream thread closer to the game

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kraggy wrote: »

Can someone provide a reliable linky for this? Haven't the money to go to the pub.

Extended highlights on BBC later on but can't wait for that.

Thanks,

Download sopcast right now, it's usually hard to get it when the match is actually on due to their server being busy.

MagicMarker

I'm going for...

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VDS

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--Neville ---- Rio ---- Evans ---- Evra

-Valencia --- Fletch --- Ando --- Giggs

---

Berba

---

Rooney

---

Then again, wouldn't surprise me to see 4-3-3/4-5-1 again.

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If Neville plays he'll be made bits of by Bellers.

ntlbell

Des wrote: »

If Neville plays he'll be made bits of by Bellers.

or we'll be playing with 10 men for most of the game, one or the other.

MagicMarker

It's clear Rafael can't handle Bellamy, Neville's experience will count for something imo. Plus I just want to see what happens

Liam O

ntlbell wrote: »

or we'll be playing with 10 men for most of the game, one or the other.

tbh, I could Nev being on a wind up mission on Bellamy and Tevez and they would be just as likely sent off.

People are underestimating Neville's ability I think. He still has great timing and he never really had great pace. I wouldn't be against him starting.

UnitedIrishman

MagicMarker wrote: »

I'm going for...

---

VDS

---

--Neville ---- Rio ---- Evans ---- Evra

-Valencia --- Fletch --- Ando --- Giggs

---

Berba

---

Rooney

---

Then again, wouldn't surprise me to see 4-3-3/4-5-1 again.

Rafael will most likely be playing right back. Held his own last weekend so he should be grand. Carrick will be alongside Fletch aswell I'd imagine.

Would rather see Owen up top with Rooney though, they linked up well the last two games together and they create far more. Berba and Rooney seem to be getting in each others way too often and drop off far too much. At least with Owen he gets himself into the right positions.

Draupnir

Neville can't play against Bellamy, he looks as though he is going downwards quicker than forwards when he is running. I'm thinking about employing him to plough a field for me.

All I want is a game as good as the first leg.

Mitch Connor

Good chance of Brown at RB, with Rio and Evans as the CBs.

UnitedIrishman

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Good chance of Brown at RB, with Rio and Evans as the CBs.

Was just about to say that. Brown at right back would be a great option and would make us a bit more solid.

MagicMarker

Would you know, I completely forgot about Brown! It's been so long since he played there!!

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Is the Arsenal match more important than this? I think it is, so I think we'll see some of the first teamers in the bench this evening.

Nulty

MagicMarker wrote: »

Would you know, I completely forgot about Brown! It's been so long since he played there!!

Thats because the last good performance he put in was in the Champ Lge Final 2008.

He's a crackpot! Theres no knowing how he'll play. I accept his A-game is great but how often does he produce?

ntlbell

Des wrote: »

Is the Arsenal match more important than this? I think it is, so I think we'll see some of the first teamers in the bench this evening.

To me it is. But I can't see why we can't put out similar teams in both games.

This resting thing gets a bit old.

Young professional footballers should not have a problem with playing two games in a week.

The fear will be extra time.

Put out the best team, get this finished up early.

Liam O

Nulty wrote: »

Thats because the last good performance he put in was in the Champ Lge Final 2008.

He's a crackpot! Theres no knowing how he'll play. I accept his A-game is great but how often does he produce?

Jesus Christ, a player has 2 bad games and suddenly he hasn't played well for a whole season. Brown was immense in a run of games earlier in the season.

Dave!

Slipping down the page........


Any team news ?

magma69

I have a feeling this will be an absolute cracker. Wouldn't be surprised if there was 4-6 goals. Can't wait. Hope City win, their fans haven't had a lot to be positive about for a few decades now. Plus the fact I'm a Liverpool fan!