Shay Given

podge018

Stuck to his line for the winner, as per usual. The reason why he never has been and never will be a world class keeper. You can stand there saving shots all day, which he's very good at, but when it comes to the stuff that makes you stand out as a keeper he doesn't cut it.

leninbenjamin

Why does this deserve it's own thread?

CHD

Lock her up boss

IvySlayer

I'd love to see Shay with a solid defence.

Mitch Connor

was never his to come for imo.

OPENROAD

IvySlayer wrote: »

I'd love to see Shay with a solid defence.

What about when he plays for Ireland

Mr Alan

didn't notice it for the winner, but he was so slow of his line for the first.should've been off his line and claimed it. it defies belief to me that people can't see this.

That_Guy

podge018 wrote: »

Stuck to his line for the winner, as per usual. The reason why he never has been and never will be a world class keeper. You can stand there saving shots all day, which he's very good at, but when it comes to the stuff that makes you stand out as a keeper he doesn't cut it.

What are you talking about?

DazMarz

Lock this bloody thing... There is already a thread on Given and we do not need another one, particularly one that is disrespecting him:mad:

podge018

Bit of a coincidence he's always behind shaky defences dont ya think? Maybe he just doesn't inspire confidence.......

Hoki

podge018 wrote: »

Bit of a coincidence he's always behind shaky defences dont ya think? Maybe he just doesn't inspire confidence.......

thats why he was picked as captain i suppose

CR 7

Cross was unsaveable. Nothing he could do.:D

DazMarz

:mad::mad:

podge018 wrote: »

Bit of a coincidence he's always behind shaky defences dont ya think? Maybe he just doesn't inspire confidence.......

Ah now, here.....:mad::mad:

GLaDOS

Mr Alan wrote: »

didn't notice it for the winner, but he was so slow of his line for the first.should've been off his line and claimed it. it defies belief to me that people can't see this.

This I did notice, thought the could have got to it before Giggs, he definitely hesitated

Redzer7

IBTL, he's a class keeper with a dodgy enough defence.

Sagat06

:eek:Wow is all I can say to this thread :eek:

IvySlayer

OPENROAD wrote: »

What about when he plays for Ireland

I meant purely in club football

Great player who plays for a not so great team.

The story of his career.

That_Guy

podge018 wrote: »

Bit of a coincidence he's always behind shaky defences dont ya think? Maybe he just doesn't inspire confidence.......

If he didn't inspire confidence he wouldn't be clapping his defenders on the back for clearing the ball well or making fantastic saves for his team.

Shay has had sh*t defenders in front of him for his entire career which unfortunately takes away from his goalkeeping talents sometimes.

podge018

he's a class shot stopper. Which there'll be lots of if you stand there waiting on them.

That_Guy

fkt wrote: »

Overrated pack of ****e. If he wasn't Irish none of you would rate him.

LOL. Petr Cech isn't Irish and I rate him. What's your point?

dyl10

If he didn't have weaker parts of his game he'd be the best keeper to have EVER existed. He does, he's not and you're trolling.

podge018

That_Guy wrote: »

If he didn't inspire confidence he wouldn't be clapping his defenders on the back for clearing the ball well or making fantastic saves for his team.

Shay has had sh*t defenders in front of him for his entire career which unfortunately takes away from his goalkeeping talents sometimes.

Tomas Sorenson has no problem playing behind **** defenders.

JPA

podge018 wrote: »

Tomas Sorenson has no problem playing behind **** defenders.

He does coz he's prone to huge cock-ups.

That_Guy

podge018 wrote: »

Tomas Sorenson has no problem playing behind **** defenders.

But this thread isn't about him.

DazMarz

podge018 wrote: »

Tomas Sorenson has no problem playing behind **** defenders.

Oh well, Jaysus, In fairness... I'll give you that much... I mean he has won so, so many medals and so, so many titles and cups with... Erm...

Sunderland, Villa and Stoke???

IvySlayer

podge018 wrote: »

Tomas Sorenson has no problem playing behind **** defenders.

He's also a top class keeper. Especially at saving penos.

Mikeyt086

fkt must not have been watching when Shay Given pulled of one of the best saves ive ever seen from Fletcher in the 91st min. Or last week when he nullified us.

podge018

the point is he's a better keeper, playing behind worse defenders.

argosy2006

No one mentioned the world class save from fletcher that he made to keep city in it,, only so much a man can do,,rooney had all the time in the world,
city defence is there weak point,

That_Guy

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

fkt must not have been watching when Shay Given pulled of one of the best saves ive ever seen from Fletcher in the 91st min. Or last week when he nullified us.

Or this

ctrl-alt-delete

A cross being whipped in like that is impossible to judge, you get made look like a fool if you go for it,

Ignore the save he made seconds earlier why don't you.

Ronan|Raven

I'm just sorry that it is another shot at winning a trophy gone for Shay now.

That_Guy

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

I'm just sorry that it is another shot at winning a trophy gone for Shay now.

Eh... FA Cup?

DazMarz

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

I'm just sorry that it is another shot at winning a trophy gone for Shay now.

So true....

When you look at some of the mediocre/crap 'keepers throughout the world who have won far more medals and so on, it really does make me think that he should have gone to the likes of Arsenal or someone years ago.

Mr Alan

Arsenal were never in for him. None of the top clubs ever have been. There is a reason for that, believe it or not.

IvySlayer

His honours:

Sunderland

• Football League First Division: 1995–96[5]

Newcastle United

• FA Cup runner up: 1998, 1999[6]
• Premier League Team of the Season: 2001–02, 2005–06[6]
• Intertoto Cup - Winner: 2006–07

That_Guy

DazMarz wrote: »

So true....

When you look at some of the mediocre/crap 'keepers throughout the world who have won far more medals and so on, it really does make me think that he should have gone to the likes of Arsenal or someone years ago.

Well we reached two FA Cup finals in a row so he came quite close but I'd love him to win something.

He truly deserves it.

That_Guy

Mr Alan wrote: »

Arsenal were never in for him. None of the top clubs ever have been. There is a reason for that, believe it or not.

They want to leak lots of goals?

Mr.Nice Guy

Given's biggest problem is his nationality. If he wasn't Irish this thread would not be posted.

Some can't believe we have a world class goalkeeper. Well we have.

podge018

Im not forgetting about his save a minute before, I've said he's a great shot stopper, one of the best around. Let's say he's a 9/10 on that, his command of his area is 3/10, distribution is 5/10................... all this drags him down to a 7/10 keeper.

podge018

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Given's biggest problem is his nationality. If he wasn't Irish this thread would not be posted.

Some can't believe we have a world class goalkeeper. Well we have.

Do you know what world class means? It means he'd get in a team or squad of world players. You tell me he's top 3 in the world? You need your head sorted if you think he's world class.

Ush1

podge018 wrote: »

Im not forgetting about his save a minute before, I've said he's a great shot stopper, one of the best around. Let's say he's a 9/10 on that, his command of his area is 3/10, distribution is 5/10................... all this drags him down to a 7/10 keeper.

On that scale what's Casillas, 4/10?

IvySlayer

Mr Alan wrote: »

Arsenal were never in for him. None of the top clubs ever have been. There is a reason for that, believe it or not.

They were in for Almunia. Enough said.

Mr.Nice Guy

podge018 wrote: »

Do you know what world class means? It means he'd get in a team or squad of world players.

So John O'Shea is world class? Nani? Bendtner? Lucas? Do you know what world class means?

podge018 wrote:

You tell me he's top 3 in the world? You need your head sorted if you think he's world class.

No I don't. He's been voted into the PFA Team of the Year on two occasions by his peers and is highly respected by some of the top managers in world football.

But hey they're all wrong and you're right.

OPENROAD

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

So John O'Shea is world class?.

Of course he is

That_Guy

OPENROAD wrote: »

Of course he is

England ain't the world.

podge018

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

So John O'Shea is world class? Nani? Bendtner? Lucas? Do you know what world class means?

Eh no. If you were picking a World XI, or a squad at a push, the players who get in are world class, i.e. best in the world in that position.

OPENROAD

That_Guy wrote: »

England ain't the world.

event

not his fault for the last, if anyone thinks so they haven't a clue

the first was his fault though, should have been out quicker

Mr Alan

agree with Event