Arsenal -v- Man Utd - Match Thread

That_Guy

Oh crap. How many handball posts will be had now?

A Primal Nut

As an Arsenal supporter, am surprised and delighted Giggs isn't playing - he's having a good season. Even more delighted to see Song and Vermaelen there although would be nice to have had Campbell on the bench in case something happened - presumably he's yet another on the injury list.

But looking at those too lineups gives me great hope we can win this one!

leninbenjamin

Richard Keys wasn't to happy when Ruud Gullit was playing down the importance of the tie. He moved on to Jamie very very quickly. Gotta love Sky for the bullsh*t hyping.

kryogen

ah look who's on sky sports!

Pepe LeFrits

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Richard Keys wasn't to happy when Ruud Gullit was playing down the importance of the tie. He moved on to Jamie very very quickly. Gotta love Sky for the bullsh*t hyping.

It's the biggest game in the history of English football... until next week, of course.

starbelgrade

kryogen wrote: »

ah look who's on sky sports!

If only I could.

That_Guy

kryogen wrote: »

ah look who's on sky sports!

I'm expecting the reporter to open a door and cut the interview short while John Delaney stands in the doorway with a baseball bat.

A Primal Nut

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm changing my prediction from 2-2 to 1-0 united.

i think it'll be congested, and i fancy Rooney to come up with a moment of inspiration late-on, or Valencia when he inevitabely comes on.

arsenal have little penetration in that team.

cesc will have to have the game of his life going forward i suspect to unlock a utd team that is looking to contain.

I disagree completely that we have less penetration than United. Nani & Park ahead of Valencia and Giggs is excellent news for Arsenal. Bit of depedencey on Scholes from a creative point of view in midfield. Its a very poor midfield for a top 4 side in my opinion. Compared with Arsenal who have Nasri, Fabregas and Arshavin in attacking midfield positons. Of course United do have the better striker by far, but he is the only obvious source of goals in United's team.

I agree we need a big game from Cesc but he is in good form.

starbelgrade

That_Guy wrote: »

I'm expecting the reporter to open a door and cut the interview short while John Delaney stands in the doorway with a baseball bat.

More likely a hurl that he borrowed from the GAA.

That_Guy

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Richard Keys wasn't to happy when Ruud Gullit was playing down the importance of the tie. He moved on to Jamie very very quickly. Gotta love Sky for the bullsh*t hyping.

To be fair they've got fantastic coverage and football is a competitive sport so why not hype up this match or any match for that matter?

Johner

bit on Fabregas first scorer 8/1.

kryogen

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I disagree completely that we have less penetration than United. Nani & Park ahead of Valencia and Giggs is excellent news for Arsenal. Bit of depedencey on Scholes from a creative point of view in midfield. Compared with Arsenal who have Nasri, Fabregas and Arshavin in midfielder. Of course United do have the better striker by far, but he is the only obvious source of goals in United's team.

I agree we need a big game from Cesc but he is in good form.

on recent form you can discount Nasri, and Arshavin will be played up front so your down to Farbregas! and if Fletcher has his way he wont be seeing the ball too much!

And Nani has had a couple of good games so it will be good to see how he does against a real quality team

MUSEIST

I predict 3-0 to l'arse

A Primal Nut

kryogen wrote: »

on recent form you can discount Nasri, and Arshavin will be played up front

I thought Bendtner was playing - were the teams from earlier correct?

kryogen

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I thought Bendtner was playing - were the teams from earlier correct?

not sure which you refer to so cant say

the line up is

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Clichy
Song
Rosicky Fabregas Nasri
Arshavin

That_Guy

What's the point in having it in 3-D? Load of bollocks if you ask me.

Skud

Vidic setback is nerve problem in his right leg apparently according to Ben Hibbs

leninbenjamin

That_Guy wrote: »

To be fair they've got fantastic coverage and football is a competitive sport so why not hype up this match or any match for that matter?

Fantastic coverage? My arse. They've got slick presentation but their coverage is sh*t. Crap presenters, crap commentators, crap analysis. They deliberately lie and bias their coverage to suit their agenda for the week. They have absolutely no journalistic credibility...

SlickRic

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I disagree completely that we have less penetration than United.

i didn't say that.

they do have Rooney up top though, playing the best football of his life, who can be as direct as anything.

cesc needs to get forward imo, and be penetrative, otherwise there'll be a lot of the all too familiar Arsenal d*cking around.

arshavin showing up would help too. he has the potential to be as direct and effective as anyone. i just wonder about him up front.

kryogen

Skud wrote: »

Vidic setback is nerve problem in his right leg apparently according to Ben Hibbs

yep, but queue the rumour mill going into overdrive about it!

and Ando not being in the 18

K4t

I hope to f**k United don't plan on trying to pass the ball around today.

Looking at this team, they need to stop Arsenal playing.

A Primal Nut

kryogen wrote: »

not sure which you refer to so cant say

the line up is

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Clichy
Song
Rosicky Fabregas Nasri
Arshavin

Ah ok - Mgoraf posted a team earlier but didn't mention it was his prediction and it was posted around the same time someone posted the official United lineup - and didn't read every thread afterwards!!

In that case I'm happy Bendtner isn't playing and swap Arshavin for Rosicky in midfield in terms of creativity.

I agree Fletcher vs Fabregas is a massive duel along with Gallas/Vermaelen vs Rooney.

Really looking forward to this one. In my parents house though so depending on a good stream!!

greendom

SlickRic wrote: »

i didn't say that.

they do have Rooney up top though, playing the best football of his life, who can be as direct as anything.

cesc needs to get forward imo, and be penetrative, otherwise there'll be a lot of the all too familiar Arsenal d*cking around.

arshavin showing up would help too. he has the potential to be as direct and effective as anyone. i just wonder about him up front.

How many goals would they have scored this season without the d**king around?

JPA

That_Guy wrote: »

What's the point in having it in 3-D? Load of bollocks if you ask me.

3D is awesome ya misery guts.

That_Guy

JPA wrote: »

3D is awesome ya misery guts.

For films maybe but for football it seems a bit pointless really.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Just please no hopeless crosses into Arshavin in the box or hoofballs from Almunia

_blank_

That_Guy wrote: »

For films maybe but for football it seems a bit pointless really.

It's because 3D doesn't work in Black & White, isn't it

Skud

kryogen wrote: »

yep, but queue the rumour mill going into overdrive about it!

and Ando not being in the 18

off to madrid and lyon yeah?

SlickRic

greendom wrote: »

How many goals would they have scored this season without the dicking around?

normally with a proper focal point in attack at least.

i'm not getting in an argument here, but if you're happy with that front line, then awesome.

i just think it might be a struggle with Arshavin on his own up front; thus it will be difficult to penetrate.

that's my analysis anyway.

kryogen

playa3 wrote: »

Just please no hopeless crosses into Arshavin in the box or hoofballs from Almunia

plenty of "typical English long ball tactics" from your lot please!

A Primal Nut

Haha did anyone find out what pub is showing it - anyone from boards say they were going?

JPA

That_Guy wrote: »

For films maybe but for football it seems a bit pointless really.

It'd be great I reckon. Just as much action in a football game as a film.
They'll probably have different camera angles to emphasise it and that kinda thing.

kryogen

has this been 3 games in 8 days for Scholes?

that cant end well


love the silly stats

Brown and Evans as a pairing have yet to win a game together this season according to andy gray

cson

I see Denilson is in the team solely for his free kicks again. :rolleyes:

And Martin Tyler "Vidic went lame during the week" - is he a horse or what?

That_Guy

United's goalkeeper jersey looks nice. Haven't seen it so far this season.

redout

Brown and Evans havent won a game playing together in the centre of defense :eek:

2 Defeats
1 Draw

That_Guy

Des wrote: »

It's because 3D doesn't work in Black & White, isn't it

I like it. They'll have smell-o-vision next for the bang of shoite from us.

greendom

SlickRic wrote: »

normally with a proper focal point in attack at least.

i'm not getting in an argument here, but if you're happy with that front line, then awesome.

i just think it might be a struggle with Arshavin on his own up front; thus it will be difficult to penetrate.

that's my analysis anyway.

He hasn't much choice though really has he? I would have preferred Bendtner to be playing but chances are, he's not match fit. Hopefully he can make an impact in the last 20, if needed.

PHB

Brown and Evans last time they played together were ****ing awful, awful. Need a commanding performance from one of them today, dictating the defence.

A Primal Nut

Statistics like that mean nothing though - sort of like the Gareth Bale statistic. Anyway, three games is hardly statistically significant.

They are both good defenders but of course I'm happy Ferdinand/Vidic aren't playing.

Skud

PHB wrote: »

Brown and Evans last time they played together were ****ing awful, awful. Need a commanding performance from one of them today, dictating the defence.

at least vds is behind them

kryogen

redout wrote: »

Brown and Evans havent won a game playing together in the centre of defense :eek:

2 Defeats
1 Draw

thought he said 2 and 2 no?

kryogen

well i would hope that Fergie has taken Brown to one side and said you are the experienced head there, you have to be the leader and set the example

nullzero

Shaky start by boths sides.

kryogen

midfield is gonna be hard to get space in

Park needs to do a job today, either that or take a pretty long break

kenon

Bogey start for Brown.

That_Guy

Wrong choice from Arshavin there.

nullzero

Arshavin was selfish there.

That_Guy

Arsenal having a bit of joy down the left.

SlickRic

well we know where arsenal are targeting.

rafael's in for a bit of a tough one this afternoon; especially with nani ahead of him.