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Clare GAA discussion thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭letowski


    An absolute shocker of a performance from Clare. I don't think I have ever seen a Clare team that gave up as bad as yesterday. We have had our fair share of beating down through the years, but at least the guys tried their best. There was zero effort or workrate in the second half from Clare which to be frank, was disgraceful when you had people making the long drive down to supporter them.

    I'm only going to single out one player for criticism, I know I shouldn't, they were all bad, but Pat O'Connor has got to get his act together as captain of the team. He is in horrendous form, but his leadership is questionable. The strike he pulled on the Waterford player in the second half was disgraceful and he should have been put off. We were devoid of leadership today, and that falls too on the likes of McInerney, Podge, Kelly, etc but the team as a whole has to look themselves in the mirror. Our work rate from last year is polar opposite.

    I said in an earlier post that it would be beneficial to us to get a chance to play Waterford in the league before the first round of the championship. I stand by that, there is alot of things that stand out about the Waterford team and Walsh Park. With regards to their team, they are a proper classy outfit with great skickwork. Their workrate and running both on and off the ball is excellent and they really pulled our backline all over the place by combining the skickwork with their pace. Clare the next have really up in the middle third the next day or they will be in trouble again. Another big problem were going to have to surmount is this Walsh Park surface. I know there was torrential rain this weekend but if the surface is soft again next May were going to have big trouble getting quick ball for Conlon and O'Donnell to run onto. Shanagher and Cooney were well beaten inside but we all know its desperate hard to run onto a ball to only takes one bounce and its stuck in the surface. Our game is all about dropping back out the field and leaving space inside for Conlon and SOD, and I actually thought we were able to do that in the first half. Waterford try to play good ball inside too, but alot of their attack is predicated on keeping the ball off the surface with movement and skickwork, which negates the poor surface. Clare the next day will either have to bomb balls in on top of Conlon or low trajectory balls, but we will be hoping for dry days in the lead up to the game.

    Overall though I've no confidence we can win there come championship and Waterford should be rightly favourites to win. We have so much problem to address. Our stickwork and handling is incredibly messy while somehow our discipline is getting even worse. The management have a massive issue now with who to play at 6. I want McInerney pulled out of full back but I know they wont do that. I'd imagine it will be O'Connor who will fill in, with Malone and Fitz either side. We just don't have a half back line that can impose themselves in the game and we will continue to see this trend of us disappearing for large portions (or whole halves) of games. We have a poor back line in the whole, there is no other way around it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Most disappointing second half performance by Clare today in the football. Having trailed by one, with a gale at their backs, Clare could only muster 3 points in the second half, to lose by 5. The big plus was our defensive structure was excellent for the most part. Our workrate was good too. However when the Meath men got a run on us in the 2nd 35 mins, we simply had no answer. For Clare I felt the Yank was Clare's man of the match by a mile. He won some huge ball in the middle of the field and took his goal exceptionally well.

    I was most disappointed with our forward play though. Time after time we coughed up silly turnovers. We simply have no one to break from the tackle and along with our stubborn refusal to kick more ball and be more direct, was criminal with the elements in our backs. Above all else we simply don't have the forwards, to do the basics and that is put the ball over the bar.

    Gary Brennan had a most poor game along with O'Connor in midfield. While Eoin Cleary and David Tubridy did their best work without the ball than on it. So Tipp next week in a winner takes all encounter in Semple Stadium. Win or bust, Clare will have to find a plan to curtail Quinlivan, Sweeney and co. They both a similar possession based, running game, so it will be fascinating to see who will prevail. Lets hope it will be the Banner men celebrating come Sunday evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Boots234


    We were a point down in the second half when Meath had a midfielder black carded, in those 10 minutes we kicked 3 wides and they scored a goal to lead by 4 when he returned to the game. We made no use of our man advantage during that period


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    It's a winner take all match next weekend, whoever is the second best team in Munster will stay up whoever isn't will go down, we are good enough to stay up but we've a great habit of shooting ourselves in the foot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    didnt make the game today , heard the second half performance was awful big game now next week in thurles , i reckon its a more important game then any championship game we will play later on in the year , dont think clare have beaten tipp since the early 90s though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Only got to see the score in the hurling on Sunday morning. What an awful Saturday of sport results!!!

    That looks like an awful hiding from Waterford. How do you concede 31 points ffs. Obviously it’s only the league and we were missing a few players but it doesn’t bode well for the championship.
    We didn’t sort out anything during the league.

    Can’t believe they left McInerney in at full back for all the games. To me he should be on the half back line and possibly move cleary back to FB. Need to start getting some defensive shape about us before we head to Walsh Park again.

    With the way things look, the limerick game could be a dead rubber in the championship and that might be the only match I can get back to Ireland for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭letowski


    You know, I sometimes think of this, but Colin Ryan leaving the Clare panel 2 years ago was a bigger blow than we realised. He is still only 30.

    Even if he is not a starter, his value alone as a leader, good head in possession, free taking, impact as a sub, etc. would be huge for this side. In so may games, where we drift out and when Duggan starts missing some frees, having a player like Colin Ryan to come in to settle things down would have been great. And you could argue he could be a starter on the wing with Diarmuid Ryan in the backs, if he kept going.

    I think the lack of veteran leadership has hurt this teams development in the last 6 years. Its a pity we were so poor in years '09-'12, the only players to emerge from that timeframe were Donnellan, Buglar, Bruiser and Colin Ryan. I think Clancy was part of the 2013 panel. But after that, alot of decent players like Tony Griffin, Diarmuid McMahon, Gerry Quinn, Ger O'Grady, Tony Carmody all retired at around 30 years of age or younger. Young players on teams like Waterford and Limerick have benefitted from having a couple of older lads in the squad.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    The problems Clare had 2 years ago were (in no particular order)
      Lack of reliable freetaker. Suspect defence. Lack of centre back. Lack of ball winning forwards. Lack of leaders on the pitch Poor puck out strategy.

    This year going into the championship we have a lot of the same issues, I would say frees are our biggest problem now, both the conceeding of "silly" frees and the lack of a reliable free taker. We need a serious changing of our tackling to stop giving away of so many frees, but I think that we are willing to concede "soft" frees out the field to stop risking goal chances inside, we have lost most of our games because of frees.


    Tipp - against 0-7, for 1-5, we had 3 different free takers.
    Kilkenny - against 1-11, for 0-5, 2 free takers
    Cork - 0-15 against, 0-3 for
    Wexford - 0-6 against, 1-6 for
    Limerick - 0-8 against, 0-6 for

    In 5 games we gave away 1-47 and got 2-25, that's a difference of 19 points and we had a -12 points difference in the league and that doesn't include a number of easily scorable frees missed during games. For me, Deasy is the best free taker in the county by far but he's not a guaranteed starter, Duggan is going to miss a couple of frees every game and even if he doesn't you never have confidence in his free taking, Kelly has been tried a couple of times and didn't work out either. As with our Full and Centre Back positions, management has made a decision and they are going to stick to it, saying that, looking at the guaranteed starters (which your free taker has to be) none of them are natural free takers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    ment to put up these yesterday , round up of the u21 championship over the weekend along with next weeks fixtures , big derby game in clarecastle , i wold expect the parish to prevail in the other game , in the B championship i will give the nod to newmarket and the mills to edge out the neighbors down in clonlara Saturday evening

    refixtures_2_a.jpg

    fixtures_u21A.jpg

    Quarter_finals_U21b.jpg

    semi_finals_21b.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    5 clare cup games took place in division 1A on monday only 3 took place in 1B so no point printing the table yet , feakle took advantage of an under strength cratloe to go top , wins on the road also for clooney , clonlara and kilmaley ,

    inagh the only home team to win in the division , in davy fitzs first game in charge of a clare side in 3 years , the bridge got of to a terrible start trailing by 0-13 to 0-5 at half time , an early second half david fitzgearld penalty sealed the deal but the bridge did hurl well for the last 20 minutes despite missing a penalty of there own

    got sent on these highlights today ,will probably get killed for putting threm up here :eek:



    clare_cup_round_1_results.jpg

    clare_cup_div_1_round_1.jpg

    Division 1B

    clare_cup_div_1_b_results.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    any jpg file i put up here seems to disappear after a few days :rolleyes: will have to resort back to the old fashion way of type your own post strategy for printing results

    the 2 u21 semi finals were played today , as expected inagh k v kilmaley was close and exciting to say the least , while slight surprise in the other game between crusheen/tubber and doora/barefield in the other as the parish fell short again

    newmarket and broadford will contest the B final , while in senior the last of the refixed games from last week in division 1B were played out today

    Under 21A Hurling Championship Semi-Finals
    Crusheen/Tubber 0 - 15 St Joseph's Doora/Barefield 0 - 14
    Kilmaley 3 - 21 Inagh-Kilnamona 0 – 27 AET

    Under 21B Hurling Championship Semi-Finals
    Newmarket-on-Fergus 1 - 13 Wolfe Tones 1 - 10
    Broadford 2 - 13 O'Callaghan's Mills 1 - 13

    ClareCup Division 1B Round 1
    Ballyea 3-18 Scariff 1-12

    Round 2
    Tubber 3 -11 Broadford 1 -15





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    big game for the footballers in thurles tomorrow , big ask in my opinion beating a tipperary side that is very much under performing themselves of late

    form a clare point of view , our league was almost doomed from the start with players like sean o donahue and eoin cleary out for the best part of the first 5 games by the time the fermanagh game came around we were only starting to hit full tilt , while performances have been less then excellent up front our defensive structure looks good to be fair and did hold up well against meath the last day out

    we will need the same from the boys at the back tomorrow against that excellent full forward line that tipp have ,
    sean o donahue on his day is probably our best player .....better then Brennan even which is a serious complement to have him back is huge , if all goes well for him in collingwood in the AFL this could be his last game in a clare shirt lets hope it can end in a win and a first over tipperary away since 1989

    no sign of a clare team yet as they are waiting on one or two last minute injuries , aaron fitzgearld is a doubt , liam kerrins said he is missing half a team for this , if this is the team he is putting out tomorrow he should have little complaints to be fair :confused:

    https://twitter.com/TipperaryGAA/status/1109199207796232197


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Clare GAA never cease to annoy me, not a single update on the footballers yet through their Twitter page whereas Tipp GAA has had every score updated. 1-3 a piece after 13 minutes, sounds like a great game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Tipp 1-13 Clare 1-8 HT

    Atrocious work-rate from Clare. Really really poor stuff from the Banner men today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Looks like a belter of a game going by the twitter updates anyway.

    Edit: and we survive with a great escape


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    They won by 2,up the banner


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    WE ARE STAYING UP!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Fantastic win from the Clare senior footballers today. Great to hear the Lovely rose of Clare blaring in Semple Stadium at match end. A great day for Clare football.

    In separate news, social media are reporting that a certain Davy Fitz has agreed in principle to become Clare senior hurling manager for 2020. This is not confirmed news, but I just want to put it out in the domain that this sort of talk is out there. Interesting times await.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Fantastic win from the Clare senior footballers today. Great to hear the Lovely rose of Clare blaring in Semple Stadium at match end. A great day for Clare football.

    In separate news, social media are reporting that a certain Davy Fitz has agreed in principle to become Clare senior hurling manager for 2020. This is not confirmed news, but I just want to put it out in the domain that this sort of talk is out there. Interesting times await.

    Please please don’t let this happen. Absolutely despise the man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Please please don’t let this happen. Absolutely despise the man.

    the wheels have been in motion now for a while , in the last few years the development squads have been flying , doora barefield got the ball rolling with an u14 all ireland feile , then last year clare beat kilkenny in the u15 all ireland decider , that u15 team is compared similarly to the side that won the 3 in a row at 21s level under donal and gerry

    the manager of that u15 side moved aside as far as i am aware of , he was due to take up the u17 job for this year , he was quickly replaced by fergal lynch fitz's forwards coach in 2015 and 2016 , then fitz himself returns to take over sixmilebridge again , the last time he was involved was at the end of his tenure with waterford , the simularities are striking to his introduction the last time

    throw in the emerging talents of keelan guyler , diarmuid ryan , aidan mccarthy , gary cooney and thehighly rated 15s to 17s at the moment and there is another fairly descent crop of players on the way , who would want to miss out on that , espically when your father is over the county board ;)

    i heard before christmas that his return was very much on the cards , if the bridge win a county in this year or next he will be automatic front runner for the job , plus the fact that no one will vote against it as most clubs in the county have floodlights and stands to pay for and need to keep in with the top brass , thats how he got in the last time ......brace your self .....:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    the wheels have been in motion now for a while , in the last few years the development squads have been flying , doora barefield got the ball rolling with an u14 all ireland feile , then last year clare beat kilkenny in the u15 all ireland decider , that u15 team is compared similarly to the side that won the 3 in a row at 21s level under donal and gerry

    the manager of that u15 side moved aside as far as i am aware of , he was due to take up the u17 job for this year , he was quickly replaced by fergal lynch fitz's forwards coach in 2015 and 2016 , then fitz himself returns to take over sixmilebridge again , the last time he was involved was at the end of his tenure with waterford , the simularities are striking to his introduction the last time

    throw in the emerging talents of keelan guyler , diarmuid ryan , aidan mccarthy , gary cooney and thehighly rated 15s to 17s at the moment and there is another fairly descent crop of players on the way , who would want to miss out on that , espically when your father is over the county board ;)

    i heard before christmas that his return was very much on the cards , if the bridge win a county in this year or next he will be automatic front runner for the job , plus the fact that no one will vote against it as most clubs in the county have floodlights and stands to pay for and need to keep in with the top brass , thats how he got in the last time ......brace your self .....:rolleyes:

    If the clubs won't stand in the way to Fitz 2.0, then the players will have to stand up to the sheer arrogance of Pat Fitz whom I believe is running the show, in the Clare county board for far too long. PF makes Frank Murphy an angel compared to him.

    The appointment of Fergal Lynch to the U17 hurlers role is a sign of his iron grip. Do you know what, I give up on Clare hurling now. I simply cannot tolerate bullies or control-freaks like PF, making some of the most important decisions that Clare GAA have faced for many a year now. Very sad indeed.
    So depressing.

    I just cannot stomach the clear agenda and nepotism that the Bridge man has. He is doing catastrophic damage to Clare GAA, not just on the hurling side, with his laissez-faire attitude to football, also a cause of huge concern. He is even destroying his own club with the appointment of his son to the Bridge senior job. These are dark days for sure and puts a sour taste to what was a great day for Clare football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clare 3-15 1-19 Tipperary

    probably the game of the day across the four divisions , while both teams set up to counter attack each other this was a forwards game from start to finish , conor sweeney had 1-1 up on the board inside four minutes clare chipped away got the next two points before gavin cooney took advantage of a breaking ball of the post to put us 1 point up after 10 minutes , sweeney caused havoc for our full back line and went on to score 1-6 before the end of the half , liam mcgrath stephan o brien and kevin fahey all kicked excellent scores as tipperary dominated the last 25 minutes of the half cooney , jamie malone and sean o'donohue all kicked descent scores on the counter for us but at half time it was one way traffic , tipperary led by 1-13 to 1-8 1-11 of which was from play 1-5 alone from play for conor sweeney

    the aid of a strong wind and colm collins team talk still ringing in the players ears , clare were in front by the 43rd minute of the game , david tubridy kicked a monster score to get the ball rolling eoin cleary kicked two more before tubridy found the net to level the game gary brennan kicked over clare's 6th score without reply with 7 minutes of the second half played , tipp rallied and clare didnt score again until the 68th minute , conor sweeney continued to cause problems along with liam mcgrath it was looking seriously ominous with 3 minutes to go , late keelan sexton goal along with two excellent points by tubridy and brennan the last coming 6 minutes in to added time was enough to keep us up '

    a huge win to be fair , first win over tipperary since 1992 , and first win in almost 30 years on tipp soil , and with the added advantage of 4 home games next year it will give us a chance to kick on again

    Scorers

    Clare

    David Tubridy 1-3
    Gavin Cooney 1-1
    Keelan Sexton 1-1
    Eoin cleary 0-4
    Gary Brennan 0-2
    Jamie Malone 0-2
    Sean O'Donohue 0-1
    Cathal O'Connor 0-1

    Tipperary

    Conor sweeney 1-9
    liam McGrath 0-4
    Liam Casey 0-2
    Kevin Fahey 0-2
    Stephan O'Brien 0-2


    ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    If the clubs won't stand in the way to Fitz 2.0, then the players will have to stand up to the sheer arrogance of Pat Fitz whom I believe is running the show, in the Clare county board for far too long. PF makes Frank Murphy an angel compared to him.

    The appointment of Fergal Lynch to the U17 hurlers role is a sign of his iron grip. Do you know what, I give up on Clare hurling now. I simply cannot tolerate bullies or control-freaks like PF, making some of the most important decisions that Clare GAA have faced for many a year now. Very sad indeed.
    So depressing.

    I just cannot stomach the clear agenda and nepotism that the Bridge man has. He is doing catastrophic damage to Clare GAA, not just on the hurling side, with his laissez-faire attitude to football, also a cause of huge concern. He is even destroying his own club with the appointment of his son to the Bridge senior job. These are dark days for sure and puts a sour taste to what was a great day for Clare football.

    sadly that is the one ugly area of the gaa, pat fitz is appointed by the HQ in croke park and cant be moved until someone sees fit to replace him or he resigns , in every county the secretary is the most powerful person on the board they cant be voted off unlike chairpersons or PROs we are just in the unique position where out head man is the father of one of the leading figures in the game of hurling at the moment and he always said he felt he had unfinished business in the county which ment a return was always on the cards i still think 2020 is a bit early i wouldnt be surprised if he gets involved in an underage roll first but he will be back at some stage i have little doubt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    sadly that is the one ugly area of the gaa, pat fitz is appointed by the HQ in croke park and cant be moved until someone sees fit to replace him or he resigns , in every county the secretary is the most powerful person on the board they cant be voted off unlike chairpersons or PROs we are just in the unique position where out head man is the father of one of the leading figures in the game of hurling at the moment and he always said he felt he had unfinished business in the county which ment a return was always on the cards i still think 2020 is a bit early i wouldnt be surprised if he gets involved in an underage roll first but he will be back at some stage i have little doubt

    Have no doubt that Davy needs this job, not an underage job. Sure what other income has he?

    Realistically it should be Daly or Lohan.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Figerty wrote: »
    Have no doubt that Davy needs this job, not an underage job. Sure what other income has he?

    Realistically it should be Daly or Lohan.

    This is it in a nut shell, he needs to keep managing to keep afloat, this is his last year with Wexford so he'll need someone else lined up. It's well known that he'll be back, I think it's a disgraceful way to treat the lads that are there now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Clareman wrote: »
    This is it in a nut shell, he needs to keep managing to keep afloat, this is his last year with Wexford so he'll need someone else lined up. It's well known that he'll be back, I think it's a disgraceful way to treat the lads that are there now.

    That's just crazy talk, the guy destroyed the 2013 team that should have gone on and won multiple All-Irelands.

    Looking at Nowlan Park today and the main stand they have compared to our "redeveloped" one you'd wonder coupled with the above is Clare GAA being used to benefit individuals or the whole county!!!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    funnyname wrote: »
    That's just crazy talk, the guy destroyed the 2013 team that should have gone on and won multiple All-Irelands.

    Looking at Nowlan Park today and the main stand they have compared to our "redeveloped" one you'd wonder coupled with the above is Clare GAA being used to benefit individuals or the whole county!!!

    Sure he's been involved in 3 of the 4 All Ireland's, won a league blah blah blah.

    His daddy is the Daddy of Clare GAA and if Davy needs to get back he'll be back, no other way about it unfortunately. I don't think managers should ever go back to a job they've left, that includes Daly coming back as well in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    i would have no problem with his return if he brings paul kinnerk back with him which will probably never happen :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Figerty wrote: »
    Have no doubt that Davy needs this job, not an underage job. Sure what other income has he?

    Realistically it should be Daly or Lohan.

    i reckon he will come in as u21 manager or something first , while doing media work and bridge manager , also that program on rte has made him a few pound too

    if he was to takeover in the near future he will lose 3 or 4 players instantly especially david mcinerney who fitz claimed himself and his father jim led the crusade to get rid of him the last time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    funnyname wrote: »
    That's just crazy talk, the guy destroyed the 2013 team that should have gone on and won multiple All-Irelands.

    Based on what exactly??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    My assumption would have been that if 2019 goes well, the current management team remains in place.

    if for whatever reason the current management do not continue, then it should be opened up to potential candidates or nominations.

    You'd can't appoint someone without going through due process.


  • Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Howitzer the 5th


    My assumption would have been that if 2019 goes well, the current management team remains in place.

    if for whatever reason the current management do not continue, then it should be opened up to potential candidates or nominations.

    You'd can't appoint someone without going through due process.

    Well in theory you shouldn't be able. In democracies that function you shouldn't be able to. However the Clare county board a.k.a. Fitzgerald & Son. then anything goes. In 2007 Tony Considine was railroaded in after a rant on Clare FM about Loughnane going to Galway and over six months made a thundering balls of it. He made the fatal mistake of annoying Davy by making him slog around like everyone else in hard training even though Davy thought he had free reign then. Pat and Davy don't forget and with the best will in the world Considine was neither capable nor where Clare capable then, of winning an all-Ireland. That would have been his only salvation. Instead he had Philip Brennan in goals they had training disputes, coaching disputes and annoyed plenty of clubs with the way it was being run. The public show in Thurles then in the scrap with Cork players was the last straw. Clare laboured on for a few months before Fitzy ran him out. You cross the Fitz clan at your peril. If Davy sees fit then he will get the ould lad to make it happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    The current management have outstayed there welcome, I can only seeing them remain if we win the all Ireland, which given current form and the inability to adapt I cannot see us doing.

    If Davy is put in I'd say 6-7 will be stepping away from the panel.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Shane_ef wrote: »
    The current management have outstayed there welcome, I can only seeing them remain if we win the all Ireland, which given current form and the inability to adapt I cannot see us doing.

    If Davy is put in I'd say 6-7 will be stepping away from the panel.

    I don't know about outstaying their welcome but 3 years is usually the limit to management teams without winning something so if they don't get to at least an All Ireland semi final I'd say their time is up.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Based on what exactly??

    Based on the fact that they were 1 of the best under 21 teams every to be produced by any county and they had won an All Ireland.

    Looking at this team's performance since they won the All Ireland

    2014 - 0 wins out of 3
    2015 - 1 win out of 3
    2016 - 2 wins out of 4
    2017 - 1 win out of 3
    2018 - 4 wins out of 8

    That's a very poor return for any team let alone a team just after winning an All Ireland but last year showed when we get a bit of luck we can beat anyone but we aren't always the best at making our own luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    WE ARE STAYING UP!!!!

    It was a great day in Thurles yesterday. Up there with the Division 3 final win in Croke Park. Such emotion on the pitch afterwards.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    There was some emotion on Clare FM as well, very important to stay up, fair to say we're the second best team in Munster now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    Clareman wrote: »
    Based on the fact that they were 1 of the best under 21 teams every to be produced by any county and they had won an All Ireland.

    Looking at this team's performance since they won the All Ireland

    2014 - 0 wins out of 3
    2015 - 1 win out of 3
    2016 - 2 wins out of 4
    2017 - 1 win out of 3
    2018 - 4 wins out of 8

    That's a very poor return for any team let alone a team just after winning an All Ireland but last year showed when we get a bit of luck we can beat anyone but we aren't always the best at making our own luck.

    I'm not for a minute suggesting that they haven't underachieved, but to state that they should have won multiple AI's is ludicrous to be honest. And there is absolutely zero correlation between U21 and Senior, two different games altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    Clareman wrote: »
    There was some emotion on Clare FM as well, very important to stay up, fair to say we're the second best team in Munster now

    Yeah, it's a pity we are on the same side of the draw as Kerry again though in the championship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    finbarrk wrote: »
    Yeah, it's a pity we are on the same side of the draw as Kerry again though in the championship.

    Really we're the no. 2 team in Munster


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    Shane_ef wrote: »
    Really we're the no. 2 team in Munster

    Clare will get another hell of a spanking off Kerry again in the Summer, definitely 10to 15 points. Then out will come Collins and say let's have an open draw. There will be no open draw anytime soon. They ll do ok in the qualifiers but get knocked out before the serious stuff. Then we can sit back,reassess and do it all again in 2020 with Tubridy and Brennan a year older. Its harsh but that's Clares level. Not good enough to compete for top prizes but not poor enough to ignore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Boots234


    BloodyBill wrote:
    Clare will get another hell of a spanking off Kerry again in the Summer, definitely 10to 15 points. Then out will come Collins and say let's have an open draw. There will be no open draw anytime soon. They ll do ok in the qualifiers but get knocked out before the serious stuff. Then we can sit back,reassess and do it all again in 2020 with Tubridy and Brennan a year older. Its harsh but that's Clares level. Not good enough to compete for top prizes but not poor enough to ignore.


    Its a pity but you are bang on the money with that post. Getting Kerry again is a killer. Ultimately staying in division 2 was the main realistic aim for the year. It will be same again next year


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Kilmaley won the Under 21 hurling today, seems to have been an easy win for them

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX7HaL9fbtY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clareman wrote: »
    Kilmaley won the Under 21 hurling today, seems to have been an easy win for them

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX7HaL9fbtY

    big win in fairness only there 3rd over all , delighted from a kilmihil view as we had 3 starters 1 off the bench and 3 more on the bench , all them are bringing 21A medals back to the parrish ,

    to be fair to the combo they were missing the excellent brefni horner who is an excellent prospect , jonah culligan and ross hayes were top class for crusheen/tubber and to be fair gave an excellent effort for a side who only won the B division last year

    sean o'loughlan is a fantastic hurler , especially at right half forward ,fair enough he hit several wides in the first half he almost dominated the second half on his own , he was excellent for the seniors in the championship last year to be fair

    massive night in kilmaley tonight especially after all the hardship they have had to endure off the field over the last two years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson




    shortly after full time , adelaide have just hammered carlton in the womens Afl grand final clare and kilmihils ailish considine scored 1-1 in the victory in front of an impressive near 50000 attendance at the MCG

    look lads i know i am being biasd to a girl from my own parish but this is a serious achievement for a lady that only took up the game professionally less then 6 months ago

    well done ailish:)!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Some results of note in the local GAA scene in Clare so far this weekend.

    Clare Cup hurling

    Clonlara 1-14 Kilmaley 0-15
    Clooney Quin 1-22 Sixmilebridge 1-9
    Eire Og 1-23 Doora Barefield 2-14

    Cusack Cup

    St Breckans 0-12 Lissycasey 0-11
    Eire Og Inis 3-17 Kilmurry Ibrickane 0-11
    Clondegad 2-21 Cooraclare 1-11
    Ennistymon 1-10 St Josephs Miltown 0-10


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Another result coming in the Clare Cup Hurling 1A

    Inagh-Kilnamona 2-22 Cratloe 0-13

    Is Fergal Hegarty still involved with combo. Very disappointed with them in last year's Clare championship. Showed no fight at all at times. Have tonnes of talent coming through, as evident with their second team winning the U21 C Championship against Bodyke yesterday. Plus their Junior team reaching the Munster Junior B final a few months ago.

    Ballyea had a 4-23 to 1-13 win over Smith O'Briens in 1B. Niall Deasy bagged a hat-trick of goals. Tony Kelly got the other 3 pointer for the defending Canon Hamilton champions. While back to Clare Cup 1A it ended Feakle 1-20 Crusheen 1-12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Another result coming in the Clare Cup Hurling 1A

    Inagh-Kilnamona 2-22 Cratloe 0-13

    Is Fergal Hegarty still involved with combo. Very disappointed with them in last year's Clare championship. Showed no fight at all at times. Have tonnes of talent coming through, as evident with their second team winning the U21 C Championship against Bodyke yesterday. Plus their Junior team reaching the Munster Junior B final a few months ago.

    Ballyea had a 4-23 to 1-13 win over Smith O'Briens in 1B. Niall Deasy bagged a hat-trick of goals. Tony Kelly got the other 3 pointer for the defending Canon Hamilton champions. While back to Clare Cup 1A it ended Feakle 1-20 Crusheen 1-12


    he is still involved , but to be fair to inagh K they are still a fairly young side they have serious talent coming through maybe a few years away yet , had a fine win against sixmilebridge the last day out also so signs of progress for sure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    he is still involved , but to be fair to inagh K they are still a fairly young side they have serious talent coming through maybe a few years away yet , had a fine win against sixmilebridge the last day out also so signs of progress for sure

    Yeah maybe I was a tiny bit harsh on the combo re last year's championship. I just thought that in particular against Ballyea in the 1/4 final, they did get to level pegging early in the 2nd half and I just felt that they would push on. But a Tony Kelly masterclass and a red card against Jason McCarthy costed them dear.

    On a separate note, I believe that the Clare minor footballers had their final challenge game in the past few days ahead of the Munster Championship opener against Limerick next Wednesday. However I don't know who they played and how they got on. Shane Meehan is the captain of team and big hopes are expected of the Dermot Coughlan managed outfit. Anyone with info on the make up of the panel and rest of Dermot's management team would be most welcome.


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