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Clare GAA discussion thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    If that's true then it's sad. I thought the idea of naming Dummy teams went with Ger Loughnane. If I was the fall guy ie 'Morey' I'd explain to management that I'm unwilling to let my name go onto the team sheet if I'm not starting. Theres a personal pride and respect issue. I dont see it happening as I have respect for the two managers. They usually go about their jobs professionally..except during the game when they are too slow to make changes

    nowadays players would be told your down on the starting 15 for sunday but you wont be starting , back in loughnanes time he told players thursday night that they were starting only to break them 30 minutes before throw in and tell them there on the bench and someone else is starting ahead of them

    i think to be fair to the management they really improved after the munster final last year and through out the league this year , better game plans quicker decisions on the line also , this lad gavin keary looks like a really good coach too he is mainly in charge of the defensive stuff he usually takes up the opposite side of the field being radioed up to maloney at the other , big addition from loughrea i think


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    nowadays players would be told your down on the starting 15 for sunday but you wont be starting , back in loughnanes time he told players thursday night that they were starting only to break them 30 minutes before throw in and tell them there on the bench and someone else is starting ahead of them

    i think to be fair to the management they really improved after the munster final last year and through out the league this year , better game plans quicker decisions on the line also , this lad gavin keary looks like a really good coach too he is mainly in charge of the defensive stuff he usually takes up the opposite side of the field being radioed up to maloney at the other , big addition from loughrea i think

    Keary is definitely a good addition. I understand your point but I wouldn't change my point of view. I just dont agree with naming dummy teams. It's not done by the top teams and Clare dont need to resort to it. Gilligan in 97 would be the only time it worked but it was still wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    tipperary team for sunday , forwards look light enough as always :rolleyes::pac:

    should be some interesting battles in the middle 3rd however especially our half forward line against there half back line seems even , our full forwarward line could do damage but so can theres , should be a very interesting 70 minutes to say the least

    https://twitter.com/TipperaryGAA/status/1134551250555592706


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    Keary is definitely a good addition. I understand your point but I wouldn't change my point of view. I just dont agree with naming dummy teams. It's not done by the top teams and Clare dont need to resort to it. Gilligan in 97 would be the only time it worked but it was still wrong.

    i personally would prefer it to be like soccer , where you pick your squad a few days before the game and pick whatever 15 you like on the day

    any time i ever went to an english soccer game the squad was printed on the programme with the team announced about 45 minutes before kick off , which cannot be changed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Half-Time U20 Football Development League at Miltown Malbay

    Westmeath 1-5 Clare 0-2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Half-Time U20 Football Development League at Miltown Malbay

    Westmeath 1-5 Clare 0-2

    Result

    Westmeath 1-12 Clare 0-11


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Dickie9


    Davy o halloran starting good man collins....the yank on the bench....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Firstly I wish Kevin Hartnett a most full and speedy recovery after his bad injury he sustained late on in the match. There is no man more passionate for Clare than Hartnett who is one of those honest tenacious warrior type players that you need in the dressing room. Prior to that he was having a stormer for the saffron and blue this evening. Get well soon Kevin

    Well it was a bittersweet performance from Clare. Plenty of heart and courage which was great to see. In defense I thought that Hartnett and with the evergreen Gordon Kelly were immense today. Stephen Ryan made some crucial first half saves which if they had gone in to the back of the net, it could have been a massacre.

    In attack I felt that that Gary Brennan and Eoin Cleary were very good today with their direct running and their honesty causing havoc for the Kerry men. The long balls to Bohannon experiment failed spectacularly I'm afraid though in the 1st 35 mins. However when we pushed up on Kerry's kick-outs in the 2nd half, we played much much better

    Crucially though the 2nd half score read Clare 0-9 Kerry 0-6. Plenty to ponder for Peter Keane and the Kingdom though who were quite poor at times.

    However my main concern though is for Kevin, who I saw is gone off on an ambulance from the ground shortly after full-time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭fire_man


    Firstly I wish Kevin Hartnett a most full and speedy recovery after his bad injury he sustained late on in the match. There is no man more passionate for Clare than Hartnett who is one of those honest tenacious warrior type players that you need in the dressing room. Prior to that he was having a stormer for the saffron and blue this evening. Get well soon Kevin

    Well it was a bittersweet performance from Clare. Plenty of heart and courage which was great to see. In defense I thought that Hartnett and with the evergreen Gordon Kelly were immense today. Stephen Ryan made some crucial first half saves which if they had gone in to the back of the net, it could have been a massacre.

    In attack I felt that that Gary Brennan and Eoin Cleary were very good today with their direct running and their honesty causing havoc for the Kerry men. The long balls to Bohannon experiment failed spectacularly I'm afraid though in the 1st 35 mins. However when we pushed up on Kerry's kick-outs in the 2nd half, we played much much better

    Crucially though the 2nd half score read Clare 0-9 Kerry 0-6. Plenty to ponder for Peter Keane and the Kingdom though who were quite poor at times.

    However my main concern though is for Kevin, who I saw is gone off on an ambulance from the ground shortly after full-time.

    Thanks for report.Wishing Kevin a speedy recovery .What players came on tonight and for who?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    fire_man wrote: »
    Thanks for report.Wishing Kevin a speedy recovery .What players came on tonight and for who?

    Eoghan Collins, Gavin Cooney, Cormac Murray, Kieren Malone (who made a very good impact with his directness at the Kerry defense), Dean Ryan and Alan Sweeney came on for Sean Collins, Darragh Bohannon, Cillian Brennan, Sean O'Donoghue, Conal O'Hanafein (black card) and the injured Kevin Hartnett respectively.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    tonight was a strange one , first half we played like a poor division 4 team , kerry led 1-08 to 0-2 before we kicked our first score from play , the tactic of bohannon did not work , apparently he was flying in training but he is not really up to this level i dont think

    1-9 to 0-3 points down at half time ,it could have been a hell of a lot worse , geany and clifford both hit the post and but for an excellent save by conal o'hanifinn james o'donohue would have had two goals to his name at the break , we kicked some terrible wides in both halves too in the last 20 minutes we must have squandered at least 5 good scoring chances form play also some of our frees in front of goal was diabolical also , guys like cleary and tubridy have set a far higher standard than that

    in the second half we beat them by 0-9 to 0-6 , while kerry have injuries at the moment they are struggling in terms of depth , first up was a black card to david moran in the first half which evened up the midfield area , then came the injury to james o donohue who walked off the field on his own accord holding his hamstring early in the second half , then the injury to sean o'shea with 10 or 12 minutes to go

    by the time o'shea had left the field the sides were pretty much 50/50 to be fair , we never look liked scoring a goal really , maybe a half chance at the end of the game , but had we not been so wasteful in front of goal we would have caused them huge problems , kerrys intensity levels dropped quite quickly in the second half too which i taught was strange for them , after the break for the sean o shea kevin hartnett injury one or two kerry lads looked completely out on there feet

    to be fair kerry were missing 5 tonight , Jack Barry , Jack Savage , Dara Moynihan Paul Murphy , Peter Crowley , coincide that with a david moran black card , james o donohue and sean o'shea departing its no wonder we finished well really

    from our own point of view , cian o'dea was excellent in the sweeper role , brennan had a decent game , cathal o connor took over the middle after moran departed , tubridy, cleary and malone all kicked some nice scores but missed several unforgivable ones too

    credible second half performance but if we had put in a better shift in the first half we really could have rattled them tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭fire_man


    Good reviews guys. How far will they get in qualifiers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    fire_man wrote: »
    Good reviews guys. How far will they get in qualifiers?

    All depends on who we get, win two games and you have a playoff for the super 8s, if we play like we did in the second half tonight it is possible providing we improve our. Shooting, if we play like we done in the first half it could be a short year,

    The team we need to avoid in round 2 would be monaghan especially away from home, if we get to round 3 we could face someone like mayo or the loser of Tyrone /donegal apart from any of them 4 I feel we could beat any team in the qualifiers especially with home advantage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Looking forward to today, not do or die by any means but a win would be huge going forward,


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    Looking forward to today, not do or die by any means but a win would be huge going forward,

    It's close enough to a do or die. Lose and then face into the Ennis road showdown ...could be going into the last game against Cork absolutely needing a win..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    FT Munster minor hurling championship

    Clare 2-13 Tipperary 1-9

    Outstanding win from the young men in saffron and blue. They now top the Munster MHC table and have games against Limerick next week and Cork the following Sunday. AN CLAR ABU!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭17togo


    Some big name players should be dropped for the next day like John kiely did with limerick today! But won't happen I'd say!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 insecurebiped


    Who do you think should be dropped?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Who do you think should be dropped?

    you could pick any amount , probably the only one that played well for us today was cathal malone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    It's close enough to a do or die. Lose and then face into the Ennis road showdown ...could be going into the last game against Cork absolutely needing a win..

    if we lose next week the scoring average will catch us unless we hammer cork . you will likely have 3 teams on 4 points if say limerick beat us and we beat cork . you would imagine cork wll have too much for waterford , that would not be good enough for us to make it out of the group

    we have to beat limerick next week to give ourselves any real chance of progressing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    actually if we beat limerick next week we have them on the head to head as do cork , so you would imagine they will be out if they lose next week , and the game v cork in ennis will be to see who joins tipperary in the final


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭17togo


    Who do you think should be dropped?


    Might be easier say who shouldn't...


    But Tony Kelly has to be the first, again in a game when he was needed against a quality team he disappeared, until the last 10 minutes when tipp had started their recovery session. Look at limerick today and the impact dowling had when he came on, he played like he had a point to prove. Kelly needs this kind of kick up the arse. So after that, take your pick. Podge is another, started well, but then runs around not really doing a whole pile for the rest of the day! Cathal malone I feel was one of the few that can feel OK about themselves, he worked his arse off all day and got on some good ball. Jack brown did ok in the first half, I think we should stick with him at 6.
    The result in the limerick waterford game probably put this result in perspective. Were we ever really gonna trouble Tipperary?!
    If we could bring on substitute managers maybe?? 🀔 Playing galvin as a sweeper when we're chasing the game?? Come on!! 😳


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    you could pick any amount , probably the only one that played well for us today was cathal malone

    I ll name a few. John Conlon is one. He is totally out of form and would be good sub to bring on with 15min to go. I'd bring Cleary back in and I'd drop Fitzgerald. Tony Kelly should have been taken off today but I'd start him again next week. They wont play as bad again but it wont be enough next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    17togo wrote: »
    Might be easier say who shouldn't...


    But Tony Kelly has to be the first, again in a game when he was needed against a quality team he disappeared, until the last 10 minutes when tipp had started their recovery session. Look at limerick today and the impact dowling had when he came on, he played like he had a point to prove. Kelly needs this kind of kick up the arse. So after that, take your pick. Podge is another, started well, but then runs around not really doing a whole pile for the rest of the day! Cathal malone I feel was one of the few that can feel OK about themselves, he worked his arse off all day and got on some good ball. Jack brown did ok in the first half, I think we should stick with him at 6.
    The result in the limerick waterford game probably put this result in perspective. Were we ever really gonna trouble Tipperary?!
    If we could bring on substitute managers maybe?? �� Playing galvin as a sweeper when we're chasing the game?? Come on!! ��

    to be fair to kelly today it wasnt his fault ,he was asked to do a marking job on paudie maher , who he did take out of the game but kelly was taken out of the game himself by doing so ,

    we went 15 v 15 and got slaughtered , galvin as a sweeper is how we should have started , it was only after we put him back there that we got on top of there forwards ,

    our forwards were diabolical today we scored 0-9 points from play , one point from our inside forward line in total , most of our scores came from the middle 3rd of the field , our top scorer was taken of first again today and we persisted with a tactic of long high balls down on top of probably the best backline in the country for winning high balls

    our game plan is simple , flood the middle 3rd , bring galvin back the field to act as sweeper and play a short to medium passing game off the shoulder working the ball up to the forwards , it dam near got us to an all ireland last year

    we done none of this today we went man for man and got well beaten as a result , its a pity we didnt drop back a man sooner because our scoring average is ****ed now


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    actually if we beat limerick next week we have them on the head to head as do cork , so you would imagine they will be out if they lose next week , and the game v cork in ennis will be to see who joins tipperary in the final

    Yes Limerick are out next week if Cork and Clare win.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    to be fair to kelly today it wasnt his fault ,he was asked to do a marking job on paudie maher , who he did take out of the game but kelly was taken out of the game himself by doing so ,

    we went 15 v 15 and got slaughtered , galvin as a sweeper is how we should have started , it was only after we put him back there that we got on top of there forwards ,

    our forwards were diabolical today we scored 0-9 points from play , one point from our inside forward line in total , most of our scores came from the middle 3rd of the field , our top scorer was taken of first again today and we persisted with a tactic of long high balls down on top of probably the best backline in the country for winning high balls

    our game plan is simple , flood the middle 3rd , bring galvin back the field to act as sweeper and play a short to medium passing game off the shoulder working the ball up to the forwards , it dam near got us to an all ireland last year

    we done none of this today we went man for man and got well beaten as a result , its a pity we didnt drop back a man sooner because our scoring average is ****ed now

    Unfortunately you cant win an All Ireland without 15 v 15. Clare weren't slaughtered when 15 on 15. They went behind yes but were bang in the game. The sweeper was defeatist. Tipperary arent as dumb as Galway and were never going to fall for it. Plus Tipp can play 5 forwards on y backs and still come out on top.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 insecurebiped


    Thought the same re: Cathal Malone, he was a work horse today alright. Especially at the beginning of the second half, he contributed a lot to pushing things forward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭grimbergen


    Yes Limerick are out next week if Cork and Clare win.

    Clare almost certainly out if they lose, would have to beat cork the following week and home Limk beat Tipp. So next week is sh1t or bust for both really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    Thought Malone did well today, the less said about the rest the better. I won't shed a tear if this management team is replaced after this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    Unfortunately you cant win an All Ireland without 15 v 15. Clare weren't slaughtered when 15 on 15. They went behind yes but were bang in the game. The sweeper was defeatist. Tipperary arent as dumb as Galway and were never going to fall for it. Plus Tipp can play 5 forwards on y backs and still come out on top.

    the idea of a sweeper system is to make up for areas where you are short defensively , we were killed for pace today at the back , because we went man for man ,

    we dont have the players to go man for man against this tipp team so you have to adjust , we can go 15v 15 against several other teams but not tipperary , they have us for pace and physicality and height in many areas of the field

    to me we got it totally wrong tactally , what makes this team dangerous is the running game , we destroyed limerick with it last year before they won the all ireland , if we use that tactic next week by playing galvin back and a roaming half forward line we have a serious chance

    if we go 15 v 15 like we did to day we wont win , i think the management bottled it because our game plan all year was fine up to today , i feel they didnt want to drop a man back because it would have given paudi maher a free run at the other end


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock



    if we go 15 v 15 like we did to day we wont win , i think the management bottled it because our game plan all year was fine up to today , i feel they didnt want to drop a man back because it would have given paudi maher a free run at the other end

    what reality do you exist in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    what reality do you exist in?

    he absolutely destroyed us in the league , when given a free role , clare were incredibly naive in going man for man against this tipp team especially in the form they are in


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    he absolutely destroyed us in the league , when given a free role , clare were incredibly naive in going man for man against this tipp team especially in the form they are in


    Clare went man to man? PM spent the whole 2nd half as a spare man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clare went man to man? PM spent the whole 2nd half as a spare man.

    dropped a man back after the 3rd goal went in , was man for man before that , the 3rd goal killed the game off put 13 between the sides it was point for point after that , granted the game was over but it stopped the rot


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    That Tipperary forward line are class acts but they arent pacey...none of them are..Callinan has even lost a yard or two. And they arent big either. We would do ok man on man. We might still lose...but there is no chance of winning with Clare playing a sweeper.
    Next week Galvin will be back just in front of Cleary and it ll steady Clare abit. I dont see them beating Limerick. The form isnt there,Limerick will be perfectly tuned in and Clares formline is gone. It could be a good tight game but their subs will win it...or else Clare will get a spanking from the get go. Tony Kelly was a disgrace today. . What does he have to do or not do to get subbed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    That Tipperary forward line are class acts but they arent pacey...none of them are..Callinan has even lost a yard or two. And they arent big either. We would do ok man on man. We might still lose...but there is no chance of winning with Clare playing a sweeper.
    Next week Galvin will be back just in front of Cleary and it ll steady Clare abit. I dont see them beating Limerick. The form isnt there,Limerick will be perfectly tuned in and Clares formline is gone. It could be a good tight game but their subs will win it...or else Clare will get a spanking from the get go. Tony Kelly was a disgrace today. . What does he have to do or not do to get subbed?

    granted we might not win , but why change tactics that were working well since the all ireland series last year let alone the league this year , it was a stupid mistake to make from the management , everyone knew tipperary were flying there was no need nor point in going man for man against what is probably the best team in the country at the moment ,


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,151 ✭✭✭letowski


    This beating was so bad, these pints arent even cheering me up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,151 ✭✭✭letowski


    Yes Limerick are out next week if Cork and Clare win.


    But if all 3 of those teams end up on 4 points each, then they can go through on points differential?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    Tony Kelly was a disgrace today. . What does he have to do or not do to get subbed?

    there is more then him

    you would imagine one of

    kelly
    john conlon
    podge
    o'donnell
    should have been taken off before duggan ,

    also how many chances dose david mc get at full back , browne at half back didn't work either , why didn't cleary come on for one of them ,

    it was 3-17 to 0-9 from play today surely we needed to make more then one defensive change in 70 minutes


  • Administrators Posts: 54,110 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Kelly was crap today and was also crap against Galway last year. Doesn't seem like a man who will grab a game by the scruff and go for it.

    In fact, seems a problem with Clare in general. There are mental issues that need resolved.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    there is more then him

    you would imagine one of

    kelly
    john conlon
    podge
    o'donnell
    should have been taken off before duggan ,

    also how many chances dose david mc get at full back , browne at half back didn't work either , why didn't cleary come on for one of them ,

    it was 3-17 to 0-9 from play today surely we needed to make more then one defensive change in 70 minutes

    We need to get back to the idea that each man has to beat his own man. Even if we have a sweeper each has to hold their own. I'd go three in midfied, 3 in the half forward line and two up front. No sweeper just pull out deep.

    Put Cleary back where he belongs. Jack Browne back to Corner back and drop either Morey or Malone,..

    Malone get the ball, runs up the field, and the hand passes it backwards. Full forward line will get the pension before there a quick ball coming in.

    We were asleep for their puck outs short and long. Did the whole team look over trained and mentally tired?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Figerty wrote: »
    We need to get back to the idea that each man has to beat his own man. Even if we have a sweeper each has to hold their own. I'd go three in midfied, 3 in the half forward line and two up front. No sweeper just pull out deep.

    Put Cleary back where he belongs. Jack Browne back to Corner back and drop either Morey or Malone,..

    Malone get the ball, runs up the field, and the hand passes it backwards. Full forward line will get the pension before there a quick ball coming in.

    We were asleep for their puck outs short and long. Did the whole team look over trained and mentally tired?

    malone is one of the only players putting in a shift at the moment , regardless of how one dimensional he may be . we need to stick to the system of galvin dropping back , weather as a 3rd midfielder or as an out and out sweeper , our backs need help at times ,

    cleary at 6 yes have no problem with that , but i wouldn't drop malone no way

    today was lost on the line to be fair , a bad day at the office against a really good tipp side we are much better then this hopefully we show it next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    FT Munster minor hurling championship

    Clare 2-13 Tipperary 1-9

    Outstanding win from the young men in saffron and blue. They now top the Munster MHC table and have games against Limerick next week and Cork the following Sunday. AN CLAR ABU!!!!!!

    we owe mr bruiser lynch a huge apology , he has a fantastic job done with these lads


    for anyone that did not see the game it was not a blow out more a controlled explosion , it was on the cards from half time when tipperary struggled to find scores with the wind at there backs

    young shane meehan showed his class again today this time with the hurlers with his pace and new found strength:) he was brilliant , along with young cahill from corofin and the brilliant tony butler at wing back , colm collins nephew jarlath was at number 5 and had a fine game also , while fergal hegertys son connor scored 4 from play

    poor game but it was a very comfortable win , a tip of the hat to joe cooney who has endorsed the development squad system in clare , i know praising the board on here can land a man in serious trouble but he deserves credit

    purple jumper is still the real problem on the board i am informed ,

    butler, hegerty, collins ,meehan and cahill along with devaney at corner back really excellent hurlers at this level , well done lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    the media scrum from yesterday ,john mcgrath very gracious in victory , someone needs to give him a clip round the ear and tell him just how good he really is









  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    letowski wrote: »
    But if all 3 of those teams end up on 4 points each, then they can go through on points differential?

    If cork and Clare win next weekend both on 4. One will be on 6 or maybe 5 each as they play the following weekend so all 3 can’t end on 4. As head to head then limerick who can only make 4 will be out.

    Of course based on yesterday it’s a big if that Clare will beat limerick in their home patch but should be big incentive to qualify and knock out big rivals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I'd like to think that yesterday was just an off day, rather than confirmation that we are not up to standard.

    Conlan had a serious off day, some awful wides - but generally he has been very consistent over the past few years.
    Duggan was off-form, but again he has been pretty dependable since coming into the team.
    and many others etc.

    And of course Tipp were excellent, and have also hammered Cork already.

    It's really down to performance levels on the day. If we play at our best we can beat Limerick.
    I'd expect only minor changes to the team for next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Ompala


    I'd like to think that yesterday was just an off day, rather than confirmation that we are not up to standard.

    Conlan had a serious off day, some awful wides - but generally he has been very consistent over the past few years.
    Duggan was off-form, but again he has been pretty dependable since coming into the team.
    and many others etc.

    And of course Tipp were excellent, and have also hammered Cork already.

    It's really down to performance levels on the day. If we play at our best we can beat Limerick.
    I'd expect only minor changes to the team for next week.

    Tipp fan here, I agree that I don't think wholesale changes are required by Clare. The tactics though do need to be looked at. When Galvin sat back it did stem the Tipp forwards. Was most surprised Clare didn't try to run at Tipp more though, they have a lot of pace in them and didn't seem to utilize it, maybe the conditions nulled that a bit. Up against it vs Limerick, but I would not rule out ye getting a result. Limerick looked great yesterday but they were allowed to hurl without any resistance. Get stuck in early and anything can happen on the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    I'd like to think that yesterday was just an off day, rather than confirmation that we are not up to standard.

    Conlan had a serious off day, some awful wides - but generally he has been very consistent over the past few years.
    Duggan was off-form, but again he has been pretty dependable since coming into the team.
    and many others etc.

    And of course Tipp were excellent, and have also hammered Cork already.

    It's really down to performance levels on the day. If we play at our best we can beat Limerick.
    I'd expect only minor changes to the team for next week.

    Tipp definitely the form team but difficult to keep that level through until August. Will be interesting will they rest players against limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Ompala wrote: »
    Tipp fan here, I agree that I don't think wholesale changes are required by Clare. The tactics though do need to be looked at. When Galvin sat back it did stem the Tipp forwards. Was most surprised Clare didn't try to run at Tipp more though, they have a lot of pace in them and didn't seem to utilize it, maybe the conditions nulled that a bit. Up against it vs Limerick, but I would not rule out ye getting a result. Limerick looked great yesterday but they were allowed to hurl without any resistance. Get stuck in early and anything can happen on the day.

    I agree, I also think Tipp had done their homework and outplayed our system.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Ompala wrote: »
    Tipp fan here, I agree that I don't think wholesale changes are required by Clare. The tactics though do need to be looked at. When Galvin sat back it did stem the Tipp forwards. Was most surprised Clare didn't try to run at Tipp more though, they have a lot of pace in them and didn't seem to utilize it, maybe the conditions nulled that a bit. Up against it vs Limerick, but I would not rule out ye getting a result. Limerick looked great yesterday but they were allowed to hurl without any resistance. Get stuck in early and anything can happen on the day.

    I not sure how people expected Clare to counter Tipps sweeper system in the 2nd half yesterday once Dan McCormack went in wingback at the start of the 2nd half.


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