vu+ duo

dfdream

Your probably right but where is the fun in that ?

D

Gipo3

Did some testing today. Recorded BBC 1 HD, BBC HD and Five HD. All recorded fine , however, when looking at dtt stations during recording there was significant pixelation, stuttering etc. I definitely think now that it is nova t usb stick and limitaions of the box to record numerous hd channels and decode from usb tuner at same time.

Tony

Guys has anyone had issues with sound disappearing when changing channels? Currently I have to put the box in and out of standby to get it back. Have it fed via HDMI into a denon amp using Black Hole image.

Would appreciate any ideas.

dfdream

Gipo3, this test really answers all the questions.
My DTT dropped like a rock....
All DTT channels went black....

I think your onto something.

D

Update - Did a VIx Update (60 odd packages)
Restarted and recorded 3 x HD Sat and rte1 and rte2 on DTT and all were fine.
Its either up aand down or there was something in the updates.

Gipo3 wrote: »

Did some testing today. Recorded BBC 1 HD, BBC HD and Five HD. All recorded fine , however, when looking at dtt stations during recording there was significant pixelation, stuttering etc. I definitely think now that it is nova t usb stick and limitaions of the box to record numerous hd channels and decode from usb tuner at same time.

byte

Tony wrote: »

Guys has anyone had issues with sound disappearing when changing channels? Currently I have to put the box in and out of standby to get it back. Have it fed via HDMI into a denon amp using Black Hole image.

Would appreciate any ideas.

Hm, I can't say I've had that problem. Maybe it's a BlackHole issue? I've never used that image - I've only used OpenPLi and VIX myself.

Meanwhile, my Nova-T Basic stick arrived today, and is working fine. I've not bothered extreme recording yet but will try soon.

irishgeo

two tuners set to 28.2, how do i set it to record one while i watch another. it keeps changing the channel as i watch to start a recording and displaying a message saying its switched to the recording service.

irishgeo

why cant i initialise my hard drive as well, its keeps falling.

i formatted it via device manger and that's worked fine but it wont initialise.

dfdream

irishgeo wrote: »

two tuners set to 28.2, how do i set it to record one while i watch another. it keeps changing the channel as i watch to start a recording and displaying a message saying its switched to the recording service.

Are you looping through one tuner to the other or 2 cables to the dish.
Is dish fixed to 28.2

D

byte

irishgeo wrote: »

two tuners set to 28.2, how do i set it to record one while i watch another. it keeps changing the channel as i watch to start a recording and displaying a message saying its switched to the recording service.

In Tuner Config for Tuner B, have you it set to "Equal to.. Tuner A"? As this implies to the software that you only have one IF input.

If you've it set to Equal To, change it to Simple, Mode to Single, and Satellite ot 28.2E.

irishgeo

dfdream wrote: »

Are you looping through one tuner to the other or 2 cables to the dish.
Is dish fixed to 28.2

D

2 cables to the dish. fixed at 28.2

byte wrote: »

In Tuner Config for Tuner B, have you it set to "Equal to.. Tuner A"? As this implies to the software that you only have one IF input.

If you've it set to Equal To, change it to Simple, Mode to Single, and Satellite ot 28.2E.

tuner A = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no
Tuner B = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no

byte

irishgeo wrote: »

2 cables to the dish. fixed at 28.2



tuner A = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no
Tuner B = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no

That's odd so, as it doesn't happen to me (in my case, if I'm recording from 28.2E, and wish to wactch something else, the motorised dish on Tuner A is moved to 28E)

I wonder if one of the tuners isn't receiving signal? I'm just throwing it out there, probably wrong tho!

As for not being able to initialise HDD, that's another strange one.

Hopefull irishchris or somebody similarly savvy will come to your aid soon!

irishgeo

byte wrote: »

That's odd so, as it doesn't happen to me (in my case, if I'm recording from 28.2E, and wish to wactch something else, the motorised dish on Tuner A is moved to 28E)

I wonder if one of the tuners isn't receiving signal? I'm just throwing it out there, probably wrong tho!

As for not being able to initialise HDD, that's another strange one.

Hopefull irishchris or somebody similarly savvy will come to your aid soon!

i disabled tuner A and i still got all my channels.

irishchris

irishgeo wrote: »

why cant i initialise my hard drive as well, its keeps falling.

i formatted it via device manger and that's worked fine but it wont initialise.

there does seem to be an issue with certain drives been initialised lately. particularly drives 1tb and above. without more details is hard to get solution but often those whom had problems with this with vix and with dreamelite images flashed with original image to initialise the disk and reflashed with a backup copy of vix image

clancger

Hi dnme, Maybe you could be convinced not to make a job lot of it, and you might sell the Nova-T separately? Or at least give us a heads-up when you're going to post on Adverts?
I've had the Duo since May, and agree that you need nerves of steel, and an understanding missus, but I'd hate to go back to my Sky+ box (although I've come close once or twice).

dnme wrote: »

Guys, I've bit the bullet and crossed the picket line. Last night I did a deal with sky, entertainment pack, knowledge pack and HD for 32.50 per month.

I don't drink or smoke and this will be my only vice. So rather than messing around with plugins, dodgy usb devices, bugs and endless hours on forums trying to get stuff to work, the sky box will just do it all in one tidy unit.

I'm gonna sell my duo and the nova-t as a lot soon on adverts and try and get back to just watching TV, not constantly trying to fix it.

Forgive me lord, for I know not what I've done!

stanley1

if i set up tuners A and B in this config., is it necessary to scan both or will one do it.

Tuner A = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no
Tuner B = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no

irishchris

stanley1 wrote: »

if i set up tuners A and B in this config., is it necessary to scan both or will one do it.

Tuner A = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no
Tuner B = Simple - Single - 28.2E - DiSEqC = no

you only need to scan one as it will create the same.

dfdream

Chris did you hear any word back from your contact in Sundtek about availability.

Ta

D

irishchris wrote: »

you only need to scan one as it will create the same.

givecredit

Tony wrote: »

Guys has anyone had issues with sound disappearing when changing channels? Currently I have to put the box in and out of standby to get it back. Have it fed via HDMI into a denon amp using Black Hole image.

Would appreciate any ideas.

Tony, I have a similar setup to yourself. I use the vix 2.03 image with no sound problems.

irishgeo

irishchris wrote: »

there does seem to be an issue with certain drives been initialised lately. particularly drives 1tb and above. without more details is hard to get solution but often those whom had problems with this with vix and with dreamelite images flashed with original image to initialise the disk and reflashed with a backup copy of vix image

its a 1 TB western digital, ill try restoring the default image and see.

Tony

givecredit wrote: »

Tony, I have a similar setup to yourself. I use the vix 2.03 image with no sound problems.

Thanks for that. I've changed to the optical output and it seems to be ok for now. Another issue i've notced is the picture in picture box appearing every night just before midnight, I've deactivated it but it keeps popping up, weird one.

rurs

Tony wrote: »

Another issue i've notced is the picture in picture box appearing every night just before midnight, I've deactivated it but it keeps popping up, weird one.

I've never seen that, what times have you got epg update set for?

Have you done anything with USB DTT? I'm curious as I'm on BH here too, using a cheap tuner from Peats. It works well within limitations, ie record one DTT service, watch any other, or record two, but you have to stay on the service which started recording last.

I'm wondering is it a hardware limitation of the tuner I have, or a limitation of the driver (AverMedia A850).

irishchris

dfdream wrote: »

Chris did you hear any word back from your contact in Sundtek about availability.

Ta

D

sorry mate just contacting them now on skype. will reply once get response from them today hopefully

givecredit

rurs wrote: »

.

I'm wondering is it a hardware limitation of the tuner I have, or a limitation of the driver (AverMedia A850).

Have same tuner in a dreambox. Works a dream. Can record all the Irish dtt channels at same time and watch satellite channl at same time.
Must be a driver issue..

Tony

Thought it might be that and have epg update set for 3.00 am , have a NOVA T which i'm going to try out soon, just need to install an aerial first.

rurs wrote: »

I've never seen that, what times have you got epg update set for?

Have you done anything with USB DTT? I'm curious as I'm on BH here too, using a cheap tuner from Peats. It works well within limitations, ie record one DTT service, watch any other, or record two, but you have to stay on the service which started recording last.

I'm wondering is it a hardware limitation of the tuner I have, or a limitation of the driver (AverMedia A850).

Sir Oxman

Just wondering if the drivers for Avermedia Volar Black HD DVB-T (AverMedia A850) are in the pipeline, irishchris?? Ta.

irishchris

gambiaman wrote: »

Just wondering if the drivers for Avermedia Volar Black HD DVB-T (AverMedia A850) are in the pipeline, irishchris?? Ta.

was looked at for this release but was bit of prob with it so one for future release

byte

My Nova-T doesn't seem to work for more than 45 minutes, after which I get Tune Failed errors.

Rebooting is now not fixing the issue. *sigh*

kkeating

Hey lads have a vu duo for sale only two weeks old has a 500 gig hard drive installed all setup for sly. I love it wife hates it. She can't get her head around the epg and I just keep getting sly is way better had a barney and was made to put the elk box back in. Offers.

stanley1

Better chance here.

http://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/electronics/satellite/251

kkeating

stanley1 wrote: »

Better chance here.

http://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/electronics/satellite/251

Thanks mate done.

Tony

After some testing its the EPG refresh plugin that is causing this. I'm using a graphical epg and it does not seem to fill all the listings correctly. The PIP seems to change channels every few mins too.

@ Rurs may I ask what epg tools you are using and do they work ok for you on black hole image ?

rurs wrote: »

I've never seen that, what times have you got epg update set for?

rurs

Tony wrote: »

@ Rurs may I ask what epg tools you are using and do they work ok for you on black hole image ?

I started off adding cooltv, merlin epg etc, but I've ditched all those now and am just using the stock tools. But I've manually added satmate as the epg source, instead of rytec, as it seems to cover more channels, with more in depth descriptions. There are a couple of channels missing, hopefully they get added soon.

I'm using the quickbutton plugin, and have long blue mapped to Graphic Multi EPG. Now that I've got used to this, and the Single & Multi EPG, it's all quite quick and easy to use.

Which plugin exactly is giving you grief?

I haven't really used PIP, so I can't comment there.

Tony

Thanks for the info. In the plug in menu I have EPG refresh and I added graphical EPG ,with Rytec and Sky Uk as sources. When I use long blue I get a list from which I can select graphic epg and then I have have to select the boquet I've set up. The PIP is also in the long blue list, when EPG refresh starts doing its thing the PIP starts also. So far it has not filled the info on all the channels even though both sky uk and rytec say they are downloading ok.

rurs wrote: »

I started off adding cooltv, merlin epg etc, but I've ditched all those now and am just using the stock tools. But I've manually added satmate as the epg source, instead of rytec, as it seems to cover more channels, with more in depth descriptions. There are a couple of channels missing, hopefully they get added soon.

I'm using the quickbutton plugin, and have long blue mapped to Graphic Multi EPG. Now that I've got used to this, and the Single & Multi EPG, it's all quite quick and easy to use.

Which plugin exactly is giving you grief?

I haven't really used PIP, so I can't comment there.

irishchris

Guys in terms of epg there is no competition to cross epg. Simply select crossepg 28.2 source only and it fills in EVERY channel in my channel list for uk. Also there are no conflicts with autotimers with this as the names of programs stays consistently the same unlike rytec which sometimes has capitals in programs name and sometimes puts (t) after it meaning autotimer does not pick it up

Tony

Thanks Chris, cross epg does not show up in the software list on Black Hole, is there a tutorial anywhere to show how this can be done manually ?

irishchris wrote: »

Guys in terms of epg there is no competition to cross epg. Simply select crossepg 28.2 source only and it fills in EVERY channel in my channel list for uk. Also there are no conflicts with autotimers with this as the names of programs stays consistently the same unlike rytec which sometimes has capitals in programs name and sometimes puts (t) after it meaning autotimer does not pick it up

irishchris

Tony wrote: »

Thanks Chris, cross epg does not show up in the software list on Black Hole, is there a tutorial anywhere to show how this can be done manually ?

hi mate, sorry did not see that you were using blackhole. i was referring to vix asd openpli. in vix crossepg is incorporated into image and openpli it also works but has to be installed manually. you could try manual install and see if it works in blackhole.
link here: http://code.google.com/p/crossepg/downloads/detail?name=enigma2-plugin-systemplugins-crossepg-oe1.6_0.6.0-svn-177_mipsel.ipk&can=2&q=

copy the file to var/tmp and telnet box

type "ipkg install /tmp/*.ipk" without the "

reboot box and see if it shows up in either extension/plugins or on the main menu button.

if not then may be incompatible with blackhole images.

let me know how you get on mate

Tony

Thanks Chris I'll give that a try. Just installed Nova T stick and seems to be working ok

Edit: Nova T stopped working after a time. Seems to be replcating Bytes experience. Re booting has not helped

dfdream

Tony I too tried Nova-t last week on BH to see if there was any difference.

I found BH hard to find anything but eventually got it sorted the way I wanted. Epg / Plugins etc. after 3-4 reboots to install stuff I went to DTT channel and it was black. I wasnt even recording anything. It had worked ok (I did no recording though) and I was shocked to see issue so early so went back to my VIX backup.

Ive now changed all dtt recordings to SAT and will leave them there until I get sundtek.

BTW - Stock in Sundtek is running late by upto a week, they will know for certain tomorrow.

BH reminds me how lazy VIX and PLI are making us...

D

Tony wrote: »

Thanks Chris I'll give that a try. Just installed Nova T stick and seems to be working ok

Edit: Nova T stopped working after a time. Seems to be replcating Bytes experience. Re booting has not helped

rurs

Tony wrote: »

Thanks for the info. In the plug in menu I have EPG refresh and I added graphical EPG ,with Rytec and Sky Uk as sources. When I use long blue I get a list from which I can select graphic epg and then I have have to select the boquet I've set up. The PIP is also in the long blue list, when EPG refresh starts doing its thing the PIP starts also. So far it has not filled the info on all the channels even though both sky uk and rytec say they are downloading ok.

So you're not using the built-in epg tools,but have added epg refresh plugin?

If you short press blue then red you'll get the config screen for BH epg.
RYTEC_UK is there in the default list, (also SkyUk, for this to work I think you have to enable OpenTV loader, this pulls it in from sat), you can also add other sources, this where I added satmate-uk.

What's the benefit of the epg refresh plugin?

Tony

I've disabled EPG refeesh as as far as I can tell its downloading now and next for each individual channel only by tuning in to each one. I've set up rytec and sky uk, rytec seems to downlaod very quickly and finish so I'm just going through the paths were it saves to see if they are all correct, re booting seem to take forever. Sky UK downloads all the titles and data but does not fill the info even on the single EPG. I've reformatted the USB and will reprt back if I can get this working.

Do you have the settings for satmate handy? might try this also

Thanks again for the replies

rurs wrote: »

So you're not using the built-in epg tools,but have added epg refresh plugin?

If you short press blue then red you'll get the config screen for BH epg.
RYTEC_UK is there in the default list, (also SkyUk, for this to work I think you have to enable OpenTV loader, this pulls it in from sat), you can also add other sources, this where I added satmate-uk.

What's the benefit of the epg refresh plugin?

Tony

Ok re checked all the paths and now Rytec UK seems to be working ok after two green screens. Some progress at last

@rurs is using a swap file to the HDD necessary or have you bothered with it?

rurs

I have a 64mb swap on USB, I really don't know enough to say whether this is right or not. It never seems to get used though, ie any time I check system info, swap file in use is 0%. It's something I'd like to find out, what's the best size andlocation for swap...

To add satmate, short blue, short red, yellow. For server just put in a descriptive name, then type in "http://hqsatellite.com/satmate/skyuk_epg.dat.gz" without quotes at epg dat url. It might take a reboot to clear out any previous entries from Rytec, again I'm not totally sure on the wisdom of having more than one active.

I'm going to give crossepg a go, I'll let you know how I get on.

Tony

Thanks Rurs

irishchris

rurs wrote: »

I have a 64mb swap on USB, I really don't know enough to say whether this is right or not. It never seems to get used though, ie any time I check system info, swap file in use is 0%. It's something I'd like to find out, what's the best size andlocation for swap...

speed to hdd is quicker speed transfer so is good in that sense but makes hdd continuously spin. i always prefer usb for that reason and if you have a high speed usb stick then is very little difference between them. i have a 96mb swap enabled but rarely uses above 20mb. i have checked this usage regularly during beta testing and it is used quite a bit usually around 5-10 mb on and off.

ps to see the memory and swap usage telnet to box and type free

byte

My Nova-T has been faultless since my previous post.

After a full reboot, I made a 96MB swapfile to the USB pendrive. I dunno if that was the reason, but the Nova has been fine since.

Tony

Thanks , will try that tomorrow

byte wrote: »

My Nova-T has been faultless since my previous post.

After a full reboot, I made a 96MB swapfile to the USB pendrive. I dunno if that was the reason, but the Nova has been fine since.

Wiggy

byte wrote: »

My Nova-T has been faultless since my previous post.

After a full reboot, I made a 96MB swapfile to the USB pendrive. I dunno if that was the reason, but the Nova has been fine since.

Byte, is that with Vix or OpenPli?

Robxxx7

byte wrote: »

My Nova-T has been faultless since my previous post.

After a full reboot, I made a 96MB swapfile to the USB pendrive. I dunno if that was the reason, but the Nova has been fine since.

You have a serious issue with your box if you need a 96mb swapfile !
How often does the swap get used ?

druss

I'm hoping to get one of these this week and i'm planning on a long, lost weekend of frustration.:cool:

In terms of additional hardware, i'm going to get a DTT stick at some stage, i have a hard drive. Is there anything else vital from a hardware point of view?

Is it a good idea to have a wifi adaptor, to allow for EPG updates for example?

Tony

I would say an internet connection is a must have for this box.