Jim Corr, New World Order Plant?

old_aussie

He's been hanging out with Jesse "The Body" Ventura and eating dinner with the bilderburgs.

thecommander

Truthrevolution wrote: »

he seemed like one of the most down-to-earth, sensible, decent blokes around

Did you watch the same show as everyone else?

Dipsy

Truthrevolution wrote: »

I think you need to do your homework on who some of these "nutcases" are, some of the most successful business men, hollywood producers, politicians etc are now backing up NWO "theorists" claims.

As for Jim having some sort of breakdown, i watched him on Brendan o Connors saturday nite show last week, he seemed like one of the most down-to-earth, sensible, decent blokes around

thecommander wrote: »

Did you watch the same show as everyone else?

Well I think I watched the same show and Jim was at all times very down to earth, sensible and decent, something that is seriously lacking on this forum.

People are so afraid of the truth that they will try to feed their own egos by belittling the likes of Jim Corr and David Icke. Its the same old arguments over and over again, its boring, its ignorant and to be frank, its ridiculously immature. How can anyone HONESTLY still think that 9/11 was carried out by Al Queda

People like Jim are putting themselves out there to try to help!!! They are trying to show you the doors, open them, walk inside.

Humans can be extremely stubborn and to grasp the truth, you must use free will and freedom of thought. Just because the information doesnt sit with your false view of the world doesnt make it lies or disinfo. You ridicule Jim and call him an agent exercising your ego based upon your personal knowledge and feeble understanding of what actually exists. This is a very convenient way to avoid the truth and get on with your life. Whats going on now is going to affect us all.

Jim Corr is not an agent. He is an extremely important part of the truth movement and no matter what the truth is coming. Whether or not you will be ready is up to you.

phantom_lord

Flamed Diving

So deliciously arrogant and hypocritical. It's almost beautiful...

Brown Bomber

Dipsy wrote: »

Just because the information doesnt sit with your false view of the world doesnt make it lies or disinfo.

I think that is at the heart of the cynicism on this forum. People's refusal to accept anything that is outside their own view of the world and its events. They'd rather take the high ground and insult through their own ignorance.

nullzero

PirateShampoo wrote: »

He was a Drummer in his sisters band.

Only time i would ask for his valued opinion was if i was buying drum sticks.

To be fair I think he was the guitarist, so maybe you should seek out his opinion on guitar strings and plectrums instead:pac:

I think he's genuine in what he's doing.
He's not hurting anybody so let him have his say, simple as.

Truthrevolution

thecommander wrote: »

Did you watch the same show as everyone else?

Please explain, what part of Jims behavior caused you concern?? As far as i can see the only people who looked foolish that nite was Twink and oConnor.Although i have a bit more respect for Brendan oC after last weeks show, he seemed to be fairly open-minded about it all and didnt just dismiss Jim like other commentators do (Gerry Ryan, Ray Darcy etc)

thecommander

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Please explain, what part of Jims behavior caused you concern??

It didn't cause me concern.

I find him hard to stomach, claiming to have done research when all he's really doing is reading the same websites as every other CT believer. His arguments are poor and gives the same stock answers when difficult questions are posed. He just jumps on whatever CT bandwagon there is this week.

It pisses me off that instead of CTers just disowning him and saying he a spanner, they try validate what they believe in by claiming he's a government plant.

mysterious

thecommander wrote: »

It didn't cause me concern.

I find him hard to stomach, claiming to have done research when all he's really doing is reading the same websites as every other CT believer. His arguments are poor and gives the same stock answers when difficult questions are posed. He just jumps on whatever CT bandwagon there is this week.

It pisses me off that instead of CTers just disowning him and saying he a spanner, they try validate what they believe in by claiming he's a government plant.

Funny, if you look back over this thread, we will notice that all you have done, is bitched, moaned and insult the man, to the embarrassing truth of, no reason, just yuo don't agree with him, or you just don't like him.

Have you anything good to say? Anything that may be topical to this point? Why do you have to make this so personal.

Its not personal. Let the man speak he his his beliefs he should be allowed to speak his mind without ridicule. None of us here actually need to care if you don't like him or not.

I cannot understand why we as adults continue to throw such negativity at one another just because people have different views on the world

Kernel

Anyone here who complains about jim is nothing but a simple nutcase.

mysterious

Flamed Diving wrote: »

Main Entry: pro·pa·gan·da
Pronunciation: \ˌprä-pə-ˈgan-də, ˌprō-\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV †1623
Date: 1718

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions

2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect

— pro·pa·gan·dist \-dist\ noun or adjective
— pro·pa·gan·dis·tic \-ˌgan-ˈdis-tik\ adjective
— pro·pa·gan·dis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb


Did notice the absence of any allusion to falsehood? You might want to learn what propaganda actually means.

With all respect due, this made no sense to me at all.

Could you please explain this better to me in simple terms what your trying to say here.

Thanks.

You know Just to add from my orignal response, its a pity the elites and royal family dont get searched or pulled through security flamed diving, isnt that so strange?

Hmm....This is the insane world we live in. You can't pretend this isn't it, cus it is.:D

eth0_

eth0_ wrote: »

He sounds like every NWO/illuminati conspiracy theorist i've ever heard. In other words, like a fecking nutcase.

Indirectly insulting many users of this forum won't be tolerated, cut it out.

old_aussie wrote: »

He's been hanging out with Jesse "The Body" Ventura and eating dinner with the bilderburgs.

phantom_lord wrote:

Stupid smiley

Stop trolling.

Kernel wrote: »

Anyone here who complains about jim is nothing but a simple nutcase.

See my two comments above.

Flamed Diving

mysterious wrote: »

With all respect due, this made no sense to me at all.

Could you please explain this better to me in simple terms what your trying to say here.

Thanks.

You think propaganda implies spreading lies. I showed you a simple dictionary definition showing you what the word propaganda means, because you clearly don't understand it.

The end.

mysterious wrote: »

You know Just to add from my orignal response, its a pity the elites and royal family dont get searched or pulled through security flamed diving, isnt that so strange?

Hmm....This is the insane world we live in. You can't pretend this isn't it, cus it is.:D

So many words, yet so little said...

Kernel

phantom_lord wrote: »

you guys astound me. i mean, you seriously can't believe this kinda stuff based on the balance of probabilities, or on some logical basis. the only way you can think this is the "truth" is for you to just switch off your cognitive processes.

the only sort of reasoning i can come up with is that you do it so you think you're in on some secret while the rest of us are a a bunch of sheep living a lie.

Go on, I'll bite then. What kinda stuff do you refer to? NWO?

Pacoa

He's just posted a video on his youtube channel of the saturday night interview.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jimcorrtube

mysterious

Pacoa wrote: »

He's just posted a video on his youtube channel of the saturday night interview.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jimcorrtube

I find him pretty down to earth and reasonable about his belief of the story. Can't knock him anyway at all. Everything he has said is dead on the mark.


I think people are not used to this kind of information this openly via the mainstream, but all the people listening do sound that they are in agreement with him:D

Oh I like it.

oceanclub

Just got removed from Jim's page on Facebook when trying to argue that it's not likely that certain teas or apricot seeds cure both AIDS and cancer.

I mean, let's assume that the above is true:

1. Why do all these people in Big Pharma want to hide the truth about these freely available foodstuffs being miracle cancer cures, when it likely that half of them - and half of their nearest and dearest - will themselves die of cancer? Are we to assume they are all sadist masochists?

2. With someone as rich as Jim Corr, it should be easy enough for him to buy a whole load of these foodstuffs and make them freely available, no charge, to all cancer patients in Ireland. I mean, if I had as much money as him, and thought I could save that many lives so easily, that's what I'd do.

P.

espinolman

oceanclub wrote: »

2. With someone as rich as Jim Corr, it should be easy enough for him to buy a whole load of these foodstuffs and make them freely available, no charge, to all cancer patients in Ireland. I mean, if I had as much money as him, and thought I could save that many lives so easily, that's what I'd do.

P.

If Jim Corr was foolish enough to do what you are suggesting in the above , i think it would be emmmm , bad for his health , he could become 'accident' prone .

oceanclub

espinolman wrote: »

If Jim Corr was foolish enough to do what you are suggesting in the above , i think it would be emmmm , bad for his health , he could have an 'accident' .

Oh right - you have an answer for every response. Hey, I'm willing to risk being assassinated by the New World Order - if Jim wants, I'll organise the purchase and supply of these food products on his behalf.

Here's a list of online shops selling these products:

http://www.google.com/products?q=apricot%20seeds&rls=com.microsoft:en-ie&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=1I7GGLD_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf

There are 14,000 of them.

Can you explain to me why there are so many of them if doing so is forbidden by the powers that be? Presumably if there are 14,000 online shops selling apricot seeds, they are all making a tidy profit.

The only difference between them and what I'm proposing is that it would not be done for profit. It would be done for altruism.

Or - as I suspect - is the reason my offer being refused is that, at the end of the day, the so-called "alternative medicine" industry is itself just based on profit for hucksters selling fruit nuts to the misfortunate and gullible?

P.

espinolman

oceanclub wrote: »

I mean I presume that curing people of cancer is what Jim and you want to do, right?

P.

I am aware that it works and people doing that in Ireland are keeping a low profile so as not to become 'accident' prone .

oceanclub

espinolman wrote: »

I am aware that it works and people doing that in Ireland are keeping a low profile so as not to become 'accident' prone .

"Low profile"?

He set up a web site and goes on TV and radio constantly.

Are you smoking apricot seeds?

As I said - time for you anti-science loons to put up or shut up. If you are so certain it works, and yet are denying this cure to people, simply put, that makes you evil. Jim's sitting on presumably millions in the bank, yet won't cure people's cancer for them?

P.

espinolman

oceanclub wrote: »

As I said - time for you anti-science loons to put up or shut up. If you are so certain it works, and yet are denying this cure to people, simply put, that makes you evil. Jim's sitting on presumably millions in the bank, yet won't cure people's cancer for them?

P.

Is not anti-science , its just nutrition , they process all the nutrients out of food and then put the food in nice boxes in supermarkets and expect people to stay healthy , its simple , you just get the herbs to get the absorbtion going and then eat loads of the nutrient rich foods and wild food , anything thats not interfered with by man and has its natural nutrients intact , and keep at it and thats it , its simple and it works .

oceanclub

espinolman wrote: »

Is not anti-science , its just nutrition , they process all the nutrients out of food and then put the food in nice boxes in supermarkets and expect people to stay healthy , its simple , you just get the herbs to get the absorbtion going and then eat loads of the nutrient rich foods and wild food , anything thats not interfered with by man and has its natural nutrients intact , and keep at it and thats it , its simple and it works .

Fine. I'll assume you're right. Apricot seeds cure cancer. Therefore, why won't this multi-millionaire rock star pay for people in, say, Dundalk, to cure cancer? He'd hardly miss the money.

P.

espinolman

oceanclub wrote: »

Therefore, why won't this multi-millionaire rock star pay for people in, say, Dundalk, to cure cancer? He'd hardly miss the money.

P.

He is already doing something about it , Jim Corr does not have to do what he is doing .

Why won't the government pay to help people in Dundalk to cure cancer ?

thecommander

espinolman wrote: »

Why won't the government pay to help people in Dundalk to cure cancer ?

Are you saying the government does nothing for people of Dundalk when it comes to cancer?

Flamed Diving

What published double-blind trial were these seeds tested in? There are plenty of heterodox scientists out there who would.

espinolman

thecommander wrote: »

Are you saying the government does nothing for people of Dundalk when it comes to cancer?

No , Jim Corr is being expected to pay and why not the government pay , in response to oceanclubs question .

oceanclub

espinolman wrote: »

No , Jim Corr is being expected to pay and why not the government pay , in response to oceanclubs question .

But the government don't believe that apricot seeds are a miracle cure for cancer and never been shown any proof they work. Jim does.

P.

Yitzhak Rabin

Espinolman, and anyone else who subscribes to this miracle apricot cure claptrap, please watch this video, I think it sums up pretty nicely why governments aren't investing in untested, reckless and imo immoral miracle cures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh7e-ZDHnow

and please do watch it, because I watch every video from HAARP causing earthquakes, to giants living in a hollow earth, before I respond to peoples theories.

To me, the people who put forward these snake oil miracle cures, are the scum of the earth. They take advantage of peope at the most vulnerable time in their life by giving them false hope to make a tidy profit. And before someone says it, I know you can draw a similar analogy to big pharma, and I have serious problems with their practices in the 3rd world too, but at least, at least they have to have their medicines tested before they can sell them for profit.

Unlike the new age merchants, who just come up with some BS cure, with no evidence of it actually working, and take advantage of people who are in a desperate situation and willing to try anything, to line their own pockets...scum.

espinolman

No , fcuk the UN , if i get cancer , i am eating organic natural foods .

oceanclub

espinolman wrote: »

No , fcuk the UN , if i get cancer , i am eating organic natural foods .

If organic foods cure cancer, and you eat them... how could you get cancer in the first place?

P.

Flamed Diving

oceanclub wrote: »

If organic foods cure cancer, and you eat them... how could you get cancer in the first place?

P.

Stop asking so many thinky questions!!

Yitzhak Rabin

espinolman wrote: »

No , fcuk the UN , if i get cancer , i am eating organic natural foods .

Well thats your choice, and I'm sure there'll be a long list of charlatans available to sell you apricot seeds, rent you a hypobaric oxygen chamber or any other rubbish cure as long as you have the dosh.

Also, while if people want to consume organic, again, thats their perogative, but it is a FACT, that GM foods have probably saved more lives than....well anything!

GM has allowed crops to thrive in places they never would have before, it has allowed crops to survive in much harsher climates in parts of Africa and India, which has allowed the people there to feed themselves.

Again, a nice video on it(although Pen annoys the **** out of me, you can't argue with the points he makes in this vid)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvNopv9Pa8

EDIT: Actually I just rewatched that video. F*ckin hell! The people advocating organic foods p*ss me off! They are probably causing millions of death. Norman Borlaug is a legend!

espinolman

oceanclub wrote: »

If organic foods cure cancer, and you eat them... how could you get cancer in the first place?

P.

Why do you think they make sure all them chemicals and pesticides are in the food and genetically alter the food , its because they want everyone to get cancer .

espinolman

Flamed Diving wrote: »

Stop asking so many thinky questions!!

Oh sorry , i forgot , we are not supposed to think .

oceanclub

espinolman wrote: »

Why do you think they make sure all them chemicals and pesticides are in the food and genetically alter the food , its because they want everyone to get cancer .

Right. I'm not sure if you're intellectually capable of following an argument, but that's my point. You must believe that if a person only eats organic food, they will never get cancer, correct?

P.

Flamed Diving

espinolman wrote: »

Oh sorry , i forgot , we are not supposed to think .

I know . If we started to do that , we might begin to use correct punctuation.

espinolman

oceanclub wrote: »

You must believe that if a person only eats organic food, they will never get cancer, correct?

P.

No i did'nt say that .

cqd2

It just struck me that by now, jim corr has probably read this thread..and probably believed hes an illuminati plant..

Yitzhak Rabin

cqd2 wrote: »

It just struck me that by now, jim corr has probably read this thread..and probably believed hes an illuminati plant..

If he does turn out to be a NWO plant, I hope he's an organic one, and not an evil genetically engineered one!! :pac::pac::pac:

Spiritoftheseventies

Is he having a nervous breakdown?

Dipsy

oceanclub wrote: »

Just got removed from Jim's page on Facebook when trying to argue that it's not likely that certain teas or apricot seeds cure both AIDS and cancer.

I mean, let's assume that the above is true:P.

Have you done much research have in this area ?? If you have done extensive research on the subject I would be frankly very disappointed in Jim as he has consistently shown himself to be extremely open minded to others views and in fact encourages it. If you have not done any research, well you dont deserve to 'argue' about something you know nothing about.

oceanclub wrote: »

1. Why do all these people in Big Pharma want to hide the truth about these freely available foodstuffs being miracle cancer cures, when it likely that half of them - and half of their nearest and dearest - will themselves die of cancer? Are we to assume they are all sadist masochists?P.

This should be fairly obvious by now :rolleyes: Money, money, money!! Follow the money trail!! There is no money in cures.

oceanclub wrote: »

2. With someone as rich as Jim Corr, it should be easy enough for him to buy a whole load of these foodstuffs and make them freely available, no charge, to all cancer patients in Ireland. I mean, if I had as much money as him, and thought I could save that many lives so easily, that's what I'd do.

P.

Why should it be up to Jim?? Why do we pay taxes? Why do we have a government? Have you listened to anything Jim says? He is not your saviour, nor mine.

squod

yekahs wrote: »

long list of charlatans available to sell you apricot seeds,

Theres now many cancer therapies which work in similar ways to B17. Targeting the cancer/tumour. In fairness yekahs, some people have examined the link between the poisoning effect apricot kernals have on tumours and made them available as a 'mainstream' teatments.

oceanclub

espinolman wrote: »

No i did'nt say that .

You believe that organic food cures cancers, correct?

P,

Dipsy

Rick Simpson has been sucessfully curing cancer with hemp oil for years now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

The ONLY proven link between cancer in humans is water. FACT.

A very well built documentary about cannabis and drug prohibition. Does drug prohibition work? Have a look and think for yourself. Hemp is an amazing miraculous plant.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007&ei=Al6ES-KlEo2n-AaS_L2yBw&q=union#

oceanclub

Dipsy wrote: »

Rick Simpson has been sucessfully curing cancer with hemp oil for years now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

The ONLY proven link between cancer in humans is water. FACT.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007&ei=Al6ES-KlEo2n-AaS_L2yBw&q=union#

Plenty of people claim that the water in Lourdes cures cancer. Your video claims that hemp oil cures cancer. Neither provide any proof. For proof, you need double-blind tests where one group of cancer patients is given a placebo, and another group is given hemp oil. Can you show me this?

P.

Yitzhak Rabin

squod wrote: »

Theres now many cancer therapies which work in similar ways to B17. Targeting the cancer/tumour. In fairness yekahs, some people have examined the link between the poisoning effect apricot kernals have on tumours and made them available as a 'mainstream' teatments.

Well perhaps if the quacks who were peddling over the last century had submitted it to testing sooner it could have saved the lives of people who died of cyanide poisining from taking it.

If you have links that show studies conducted by independent sources which show B17 shows a better treatment success than chemo/radiation treatment etc. I would like to read them.

In the meantime, this is the results of the study conducted by the National Cancer Institute on B17 and cancer.

In response to political pressure, the National Cancer Institute did two studies involving Laetrile. The first was a retrospective analysis of patients treated with Laetrile. Letters were written to 385,000 physicians in the United States as well as 70,000 other health professionals requesting case reports of cancer patients who were thought to have benefited from using Laetrile. In addition, the various pro-Laetrile groups were asked to provide information concerning any such patients.
Although it had been estimated that at least 70,000 Americans had used Laetrile—only 93 cases were submitted for evaluation. Twenty-six of these reports lacked adequate documentation to permit evaluation. The remaining 68 cases were "blinded" and submitted to an expert panel for review, along with data from 68 similar patients who had received chemotherapy. That way the panel did not know what treatment patients had received. The panel felt that two of the Laetrile-treated cases demonstrated complete remission of disease, four displayed partial remission, and the remaining 62 cases had exhibited no measurable response. No attempt was made to verify that any of the patients who might have benefited from Laetrile actually existed. The reviewers concluded that "the results allow no definite conclusions supporting the anti-cancer activity of Laetrile."

Honestly, I am not advocating dismissal of alternative therapies. What I am advocating, is that the people who say they work, submit them to testing before giving desperate dying patients false hope(and fleecing them while they are at it).

Yitzhak Rabin

Dipsy wrote: »

Rick Simpson has been sucessfully curing cancer with hemp oil for years now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

The ONLY proven link between cancer in humans is water. FACT.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007&ei=Al6ES-KlEo2n-AaS_L2yBw&q=union#

I will watch your link, but its an hour long, so before I do, can you summarize its point, and possibly pre-empt the answer to my question, why hasn't he submitted his "cure" for testing by an independent double-blind experiment.

As for the second one, I'd say I'd agree with the premise, as I think criminalising cannibas is ridiculous.

edit: Also why do you think its been proven water causes cancer?

Truthrevolution

Every year BILLIONS is spent on cancer research, BILLIONS spent on drug sales.More people are making a living from cancer than dying from it (think about it) if a simple solution was found to cure cancer it would wipe out the entire industry overnite.....

G Edward Griffen - World without cancer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpYslixIiY