Jim Corr, New World Order Plant?

oceanclub

yekahs wrote: »

edit: Also why do you think its been proven water causes cancer?

And since our bodies are ~60% water, does that mean we're f*cked anyway?

P.

oceanclub

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Every year BILLIONS is spent on cancer research, BILLIONS spent on drug sales.More people are making a living from cancer than dying from it (think about it) if a simple solution was found to cure cancer it would wipe out the entire industry overnite.....

All these people selling hemp oil and apricot seeds seems to make making money from it.

Also, if this was the case, then anyone involved in cancer vaccine research (such as that for cervical cancer) would have been killed by the New World Order long ago.

P.

Truthrevolution

oceanclub wrote: »

All these people selling hemp oil and apricot seeds seems to make making money from it.

Also, if this was the case, then anyone involved in cancer vaccine research (such as that for cervical cancer) would have been killed by the New World Order long ago.

P.

If you get a chance watch the video i put up which shows the big government/big pharma vested interests criminally prosecuting people who were curing people from cancer through alternative measures

Yitzhak Rabin

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Every year BILLIONS is spent on cancer research, BILLIONS spent on drug sales.More people are making a living from cancer than dying from it (think about it) if a simple solution was found to cure cancer it would wipe out the entire industry overnite.....

G Edward Griffen - World without cancer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpYslixIiY

It seems to be working

oceanclub

Truthrevolution wrote: »

If you get a chance watch the video i put up which shows the big government/big pharma vested interests criminally prosecuting people who were curing people from cancer through alternative measures

I'm not going to watch an hour-long video that the person recommending cannot even attempt to summarise.

And I imagine that, yes, people who sell unproven quack cures for money _are_ prosecuted. And I'm very glad that charlatans like this are. One of these tried to make money out of me when my father was dying, and I'd happily stick them in jail for 20 years.

P.

Yitzhak Rabin

Truthrevolution wrote: »

If you get a chance watch the video i put up which shows the big government/big pharma vested interests criminally prosecuting people who were curing people from cancer through alternative measures circumventing the legal processes required to distribute drugs, and in doing so endangering the lives of sick people who are desperate and will try anything they think has a shot at working

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wurzlitzer

I am new to this conspiracy theory malarky...........what is the defintion of a NWO........and why would they wipe out cancer cure makers.........surely it would be more along the line of wiping capitalist governments in a capitalist world were drug prices are over inflated and we have all these probiotics and supplements advertised on the telly 24 hs a day telling us this will fix us

would a NWO not make us exercise more, and eat more greens, and make drugs for malaria freely available.....
then again NWO takeover may eventually turn into one of those books where new ideologies...always fall flat...and capitalism is always restored

so Jim Corr is a CT...did he spend a lot of time in the states...maybe he stayed in hotels near US airfields

Dipsy

oceanclub wrote: »

Plenty of people claim that the water in Lourdes cures cancer. Your video claims that hemp oil cures cancer. Neither provide any proof. For proof, you need double-blind tests where one group of cancer patients is given a placebo, and another group is given hemp oil. Can you show me this?

P.

Both can be easily proved but nobody profits from it this way The first one is how powerful we are and how with the power of our minds we can cure ourselves. The second one, well, I will answer that below yekahs post.

yekahs wrote: »

I will watch your link, but its an hour long, so before I do, can you summarize its point, and possibly pre-empt the answer to my question, why hasn't he submitted his "cure" for testing by an independent double-blibd experiment.

As for the second one, I'd say I'd agree with the premise, as I think criminalising cannibas is ridiculous.

edit: Also why do you think its been proven water causes cancer?

Rick discovered that hemp oil cured cancers and other diseases and tried to share it with as many people as he could free of charge,when the story went public Rick was charged with possessing and trafficking marijuana.

Run From The Cure will help you understand more about using cannabis as a cure for cancer and other medical problems.

He cant get it tested because as no one will test it as its illegal. They wont acknowledge it at all. Why dont they disprove it??

If we were allowed to grow hemp and cure our own illnesses, how do you think the pharmacies would react?

As for the water, technically its the cancer causing chemicals in the water that cause cancer.

squod

yekahs wrote: »

Well perhaps if the quacks who were peddling over the last century had submitted it to testing sooner it could have saved the lives of people who died of cyanide poisining from taking it.

If you have links that show studies conducted by independent sources which show B17 shows a better treatment success than chemo/radiation treatment etc. I would like to read them.

In the meantime, this is the results of the study conducted by the National Cancer Institute on B17 and cancer.




Honestly, I am not advocating dismissal of alternative therapies. What I am advocating, is that the people who say they work, submit them to testing before giving desperate dying patients false hope(and fleecing them while they are at it).

But they are, I have no idea where you're information is comming from yekahs. I can tell you this for sure. Analysing the nature of B17 and how it specifically targets cancerous tumours is an excellent idea. Whether B17 works or not, I agree with you that's a choice for the doctors etc.

Cyanide poisoning, I'd like to see one reliable study that ever found that link.

Truthrevolution

yekahs wrote: »

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The drugs he was bringing in were curing people, saving their lives, what do you see wrong with that? Oh sorry there was a loophole where a government enacted law prevented him from doing that!:rolleyes:

oceanclub

Dipsy wrote: »

Both can be easily proved

So you believe in holy miracles as well?

Is there anything you are skeptical about? Is there anything you don't think cures cancer?

And if this proof is so easy, then hey, show me.

Rick discovered that hemp oil cured cancers and other diseases and tried to share it with as many people as he could free of charge,when the story went public Rick was charged with possessing and trafficking marijuana.

Why then is hemp oil not used perfectly legally in the Netherlands to cure cancer?

EDIT: And actually, it turns out HEMP OIL IS PERFECTLY LEGAL IN THE US!

As for the water, technically its the cancer causing chemicals in the water that cause cancer.

Oh, "technically", can you name these chemicals?

P.

Yitzhak Rabin

squod wrote: »

But they are, I have no idea where you're information is comming from yekahs. I can tell you this for sure. Analysing the nature of B17 and how it specifically targets cancerous tumours is an excellent idea. Whether B17 works or not, I agree with you that's a choice for the doctors etc.

I think we're pretty much on the same wavelegnth here with regards, testing the effects before coming to conclusions of it being a cure. Most people who claim eating apricot seeds refuse to acknowledge the fact that there is no study that suggests it does. Regardless of evidence to the contrary, they continue to tell cancer patients, that B17/amygdalin/laetrile will save their life.

There have been studies conducted on B17 over the years, I'll dig up the links if you want them. Not one of them came to the conclusion that it had any discernable affect on cancerous tumors.

Cyanide poisoning, I'd like to see one reliable study that ever found that link.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/306/4/201

[FONT=arial, helvetica]One hundred seventy-eight patients with cancer were treated with amygdalin (Laetrile) plus a "metabolic therapy" program consisting of diet, enzymes, and vitamins. The great majority of these patients were in good general condition before treatment. None was totally disabled or in preterminal condition. One third had not received any previous chemotherapy. The pharmaceutical preparations of amygdalin, the dosage, and the schedule were representative of past and present Laetrile practice. No substantive benefit was observed in terms of cure, improvement or stabilization of cancer, improvement of symptoms related to cancer, or extension of life span. The hazards of amygdalin therapy were evidenced in several patients by symptoms of cyanide toxicity or by blood cyanide levels approaching the lethal range. Patients exposed to this agent should be instructed about the danger of cyanide poisoning, and their blood cyanide levels should be carefully monitored. Amygdalin (Laetrile) is a toxic drug that is not effective as a cancer treatment.

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More studies which come to the same conclusion re:cyanide poisining

http://caonline.amcancersoc.org/cgi/reprint/31/2/91

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC349070/?tool=pmcentrez

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1272529/?tool=pmcentrez

oceanclub

yekahs wrote: »

There have been studies conducted on B17 over the years, I'll dig up the links if you want them. Not one of them came to the conclusion that it had any discernable affect on cancerous tumors.

The bit that I don't understand is - why do conspiracy theorists think that scientists would want to hide this? Most of us in our lives will suffer cancer. My mother, my father, and my father-in-law have all died of it, and that's just very close relatives, never mind uncles, aunts, etc.

Scientists are human too - though you would never know from listening to the likes of Jim Corr. They too will suffer cancer, or knows those will.

Why would all of the 10s - 100s - of thousand of cancer and AIDS researchers in the world hide the fact that - just to take one conspiracy theory favourite - apricot seeds cure cancer? Why would not one of them prove in a standard, peer-accepted double-blind test that it works?


To sum it up, either:

1. Hundreds of thousands of cancer researchers are willing to ignore a cheap and easy solution to cancer for themselves and their loved ones for money.

2. Some hippy with hemp oil who thinks he can cure cancer is wrong.

Occam's razor and all.


P.

Yitzhak Rabin

Truthrevolution wrote: »

The drugs he was bringing in were curing people, saving their lives, what do you see wrong with that? Oh sorry there was a loophole where a government enacted law prevented him from doing that!:rolleyes:

He is NOT saving lives, have a look at my last post. There have been many studies into the effects of "B17" on cancer, and the conclusions is they DO NOT CURE CANCER! You can put your head in the sand and choose to believe it does, but the evidence says it doesn't.

Its not a "loophole", its a law that protects people. It makes sure medicine has to be tested before people can sell it. It stops me bottling my piss and saying it can cure heart diesease.

oceanclub

Truthrevolution wrote: »

The drugs he was bringing in were curing people, saving their lives, what do you see wrong with that? Oh sorry there was a loophole where a government enacted law prevented him from doing that!:rolleyes:

Do you believe there should be any laws governing what claims can be made about a medicine? Do you believe that anyone can sell something making any claim they want to about it?

P.

Yitzhak Rabin

Dipsy wrote: »

Rick discovered that hemp oil cured cancers and other diseases and tried to share it with as many people as he could free of charge,when the story went public Rick was charged with possessing and trafficking marijuana.

Run From The Cure will help you understand more about using cannabis as a cure for cancer and other medical problems.

Cannibas, is illegal, what he was doing(distributing drugs) is illegal. While I think this is a not ideal(cannibas being illegal), I have to agree that people offering cures cannot do so before it has been tested.

He cant get it tested because as no one will test it as its illegal. They wont acknowledge it at all. Why dont they disprove it??

It is not illegal to test marijuana. Sure, the precribe it to people with glycoma and to help people undergoing chemotherapy.

As for the water, technically its the cancer causing chemicals in the water that cause cancer.

Proof please, or is that just opinion. You said it was a fact.

Dipsy

oceanclub wrote: »

So you believe in holy miracles as well?P.

Not at all I believe some places are more powerful than others and I believe we are powerful miraculous beings and with the power of our minds we can cure ourselves.

oceanclub wrote: »

Is there anything you are skeptical about? Is there anything you don't think cures cancer?P.

I am skeptical about skeptics

I dont think stress helps cancer, negative emotions, destructive thoughts or behaviours. I dont think toxins in the air, food or water cure cancer. I dont think EMF and radiation cures cancer and I am pretty sure that chemotherapy doesnt cure cancer.

oceanclub wrote: »

And if this proof is so easy, then hey, show me.P.

I cant show you per se, but if you read up on the subject you will find that lots of people are sucessfully curing themselves or others of cancer whether it be with hemp oil, collodial silver, apricots, organic diets, alternative remedies, meditation etc.

oceanclub wrote: »

Why then is hemp oil not used perfectly legally in the Netherlands to cure cancer?P.

It is perfectly legal to buy hemp oil in the Netherlands :cool: You can cure yourself there if you like

oceanclub wrote: »

Oh, "technically", can you name these chemicals?

P.

Liquified chlorine, Fluorosilicic acid, Aluminium sulphate, Calcium hydroxide, Sodium silicofluoride, Chlorine, Fluorine compound,

Also Salts of:
o arsenic
o radium
o aluminium
o copper
o lead
o mercury
o cadmium
o barium
Hormones, Nitrates, Pesticides, Trihalomethanes (THMs). And let us not forget the biggest baddest trick of all times Flouride :mad:

There is some great info here on the chemicals added to our water:

http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/chemicals/en/index.html

http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/cmp130704chap8.pdf

oceanclub

Dipsy wrote: »

It is perfectly legal to buy hemp oil in the Netherlands :cool: You can cure yourself there if you like

That's.... my.... point. If it's legal, what's stopping the Dutch health services from using it?

By the way, hemp oil is also perfectly legal in the USA.

By the way, if you want to drink bottled spring water rather than tap water, go right ahead.

Oh, and not only do you believe that hundred of thousands of cancer researchers are hiding the cure for cancer from themselves and their loved ones, you also believe that millions of doctors inflict nauseous chemotherapy even though it never ever cures cancer?

Based on this, you appear to think most of humanity is psychopathic.

P.

squod

yekahs wrote: »

More studies which come to the same conclusion re:cyanide poisining

http://caonline.amcancersoc.org/cgi/reprint/31/2/91

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC349070/?tool=pmcentrez

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1272529/?tool=pmcentrez

I'm gonna have to disagree with you here yekahs. All of these studies were done in the US during the eighties. Hardly a shining light for alternative medcines. I'd have to say that these early conventional treatments ('blanket bombing' chemo and radiation) offered little more hope.

Yitzhak Rabin

espinolman wrote: »

Hold on , herbalism has been used for thousands of years ! Do we need to have hedge schools again here in Ireland , thats the way it seems to be going .

Yes and the herbs that worked became medicine, and the ones that didn't became sh1te peddled by charlatans who refuse to get it tested alternative medicine.

Yitzhak Rabin

Dipsy wrote: »

Not at all I believe some places are more powerful than others and I believe we are powerful miraculous beings and with the power of our minds we can cure ourselves.

Thats your belief, fair enough, but there is no evidence(AFAIK) for it.

I dont think stress helps cancer, negative emotions, destructive thoughts or behaviours.

Neither do doctors, a positive attitude is very important when faced with the daunting task of fighting cancer.

I dont think EMF and radiation cures cancer and I am pretty sure that chemotherapy doesnt cure cancer.

Thats not what the evidence suggests. These treatments are proven to reduce tumor size and save peoples lives. Falling cancer mortality rates show this.

I cant show you per se, but if you read up on the subject you will find that lots of people are sucessfully curing themselves or others of cancer whether it be with hemp oil, collodial silver, apricots, organic diets, alternative remedies, meditation etc.

None of which actually cure cancer when tested under scientific conditions

Liquified chlorine, Fluorosilicic acid, Aluminium sulphate, Calcium hydroxide, Sodium silicofluoride, Chlorine, Fluorine compound,

Also Salts of:
o arsenic
o radium
o aluminium
o copper
o lead
o mercury
o cadmium
o barium

Its all about the dosage. Of course arsenic is bad, but it is all dependant on the dosage. Table salt is lethal at certain levels, as is....well pretty much every single organic compound. Calling something posinous is useless if the dosage/concentration is not included.

Yitzhak Rabin

squod wrote: »

I'm gonna have to disagree with you here yekahs. All of these studies were done in the US during the eighties. Hardly a shining light for alternative medcines. I'd have to say that these early conventional treatments ('blanket bombing' chemo and radiation) offered little more hope.

There have been studies done from the early 1900's, 1950's, 1970's, 1980's, another one in 1998, and a review of them all in 2006.

None, not one, zero, studies to indicate any sort of positive effect from using laetrile/B17(although it is not a vitamen, it was marketed as B17 in the 50's to cash in on a fad whereby vitamens were seen as miracle cures). All studies have shown conclusively that laetrile treatment increases the level of cyanide in the blood to near leathal levels, with some patients actually dying from cyanide poisining.

Why are you so sure it shows tumor reducing qualities? What convinced you of this?

Edit:Also, how does the fact that cancer treatment wasn't as effective 20-30 years ago as it is now have any bearing on the fact that all these studies unequivocally showed that laetrile doesn't reduce tumors or cure cancer, and its only side effect appears to be drastically increased cyanide levels in the blood?

squod

yekahs wrote: »

There have been studies done from the early 1900's, 1950's, 1970's, 1980's, another one in 1998, and a review of them all in 2006.

None, not one, zero, studies to indicate any sort of positive effect from using laetrile/B17(although it is not a vitamen, it was marketed as B17 in the 50's to cash in on a fad whereby vitamens were seen as miracle cures). All studies have shown conclusively that laetrile treatment increases the level of cyanide in the blood to near leathal levels, with some patients actually dying from cyanide poisining.

Why are you so sure it shows tumor reducing qualities? What convinced you of this?

Edit:Also, how does the fact that cancer treatment wasn't as effective 20-30 years ago as it is now have any bearing on the fact that all these studies unequivocally showed that laetrile doesn't reduce tumors or cure cancer, and its only side effect appears to be drastically increased cyanide levels in the blood?

After many years of eating *apple seeds, *grape seeds, *pomegranates etc. If just one of my poohs had made open sea, half of Wales would have died if what your saying is true. Many seed eating birds woulda crashed from the skies etc....

People in the past have stored almonds, apricot kernels and other seeds as winter foods. Hell, I still eat handfulls of mungbean sprouts. Any scientist that suggests people will die from eating this kind of thing have obviously graduated from the grand school of bolloxology. Whether it cures cancer, I'm no doctor. But cyanide levels. Ptffffff.

Yitzhak Rabin

squod wrote: »

After many years of eating *apple seeds, *grape seeds, *pomegranates etc. If just one of my poohs had made open sea, half of Wales would have died if what your saying is true. Many seed eating birds woulda crashed from the skies etc....

People in the past have stored almonds, apricot kernels and other seeds as winter foods. Hell, I still eat handfulls of mungbean sprouts. Any scientist that suggests people will die from eating this kind of thing have obviously graduated from the grand school of bolloxology. Whether it cures cancer, I'm no doctor. But cyanide levels.

What I said two posts ago holds true here:

Its all about the dosage. Of course arsenic is bad, but it is all dependant on the dosage. Table salt is lethal at certain levels, as is....well pretty much every single organic compound. Calling something posinous is useless if the dosage/concentration is not included.

Eating seeds on a regular basis is fine and your not going to see any major side effects(you definitely won't see cancerous tumors going into remission).

However if you increase the dosage to extremely high levels, as they do when people produce Laetrine/amygdalin as a drug, then you will see side effects, one of those being an increase of cyanide in the blood.

Its simple, this is the chemical construction of amygdalin(C20H27NO11)

When the body breaks it down the single bond which holds the cyanide(C≡N) component on is broken down. When you have too much of this you get cyande poisining.

No school of Bolloxology there, just simple chemistry.

Truthrevolution

yekahs wrote: »

He is NOT saving lives, have a look at my last post. There have been many studies into the effects of "B17" on cancer, and the conclusions is they DO NOT CURE CANCER! You can put your head in the sand and choose to believe it does, but the evidence says it doesn't.

You are very wrong, if you had bothered to watch my video instead of jumping to conclusions you would see the statistics for yourself.These statistics were taken from the National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer society and clinical records, they show the success rates of B17 cancer treatment against orthodox treatments....

Advanced cancer - B17 15% Orthodox 0.1%

Early detection - B17 80% Orthodox 15%

Full health - B17 100% Orthodox 84%

robtri

Truthrevolution wrote: »

You are very wrong, if you had bothered to watch my video instead of jumping to conclusions you would see the statistics for yourself.These statistics were taken from the National Cancer institute, the American Cancer society and clinical records, they show the success rates of B17 cancer treatment against orthodox treatments....

Advanced cancer - B17 15% Orthodox 0.1%

Early detection - B17 80% Orthodox 15%

Full health - B17 100% Orthodox 84%

how come the National Cancer Institute website does not show these stats... do you not find this puzzling...consider how effective it supposedly is.....


and even worse.. the American Cancer society website... actually states studies show B12 to NOT offer any protection......

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_2_1x_Study_Folic_Acid_Vitamin_B6_May_Protect_Against_Breast_Cancer.asp

your video seems to have its facts wrong

Yitzhak Rabin

Truthrevolution wrote: »

You are very wrong, if you had bothered to watch my video instead of jumping to conclusions you would see the statistics for yourself.These statistics were taken from the National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer society and clinical records, they show the success rates of B17 cancer treatment against orthodox treatments....

Advanced cancer - B17 15% Orthodox 0.1%

Early detection - B17 80% Orthodox 15%

Full health - B17 100% Orthodox 84%

ffs, one of the studies I linked to was conducted by the NCI. They concluded that B17 had no measurable affect on cancer, and in fact 2 patients in the study died of cyanide poisining.

As usual, your talking rubbish, and just accepting what some CT documentary tells you as fact, without checking the original source.

Truthrevolution

robtri wrote: »

how come the National Cancer Institute website does not show these stats... do you not find this puzzling...consider how effective it supposedly is.....


and even worse.. the American Cancer society website... actually states studies show B12 to NOT offer any protection......

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_2_1x_Study_Folic_Acid_Vitamin_B6_May_Protect_Against_Breast_Cancer.asp

your video seems to have its facts wrong

Not quite, if the facts were wrong then they would have taken a lawsuit out against G Edward and done him for millions.The documentary was done back in the 70s so obviously the figures are from that time.I do wish some of you guys would actually watch it before trying to debunk the claims!

oceanclub

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Not quite, if the facts were wrong then they would have taken a lawsuit out against G Edward and done him for millions.The documentary was done back in the 70s so obviously the figures are from that time.I do wish some of you guys would actually watch it before trying to debunk the claims!

Put up or shut up. Include a link to these alleged studies you're talking about.

Youtube videos are not scientific evidence.

P.

robtri

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Not quite, if the facts were wrong then they would have taken a lawsuit out against G Edward and done him for millions.The documentary was done back in the 70s so obviously the figures are from that time.I do wish some of you guys would actually watch it before trying to debunk the claims!

and i wish you would keep up to date...
you stated the two cancer socitites stats proved b12....

no offence BUT THEY DONT ... look at the websites....

its outdated Crap......

Yitzhak Rabin

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Not quite, if the facts were wrong then they would have taken a lawsuit out against G Edward and done him for millions.The documentary was done back in the 70s so obviously the figures are from that time.I do wish some of you guys would actually watch it before trying to debunk the claims!

I know despite your username, your probably not interested, but this is a study conducted in 2007 reviewing all the studies thus far on laetrile and it effectiveness.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/j46152606728636h/

Conclusion: Therefore, the claim that laetrile has beneficial effects for cancer patients is not supported by sound clinical data.

Included in that study is the one by Dr. Dean Burk which G Edward Griffin referred to in your documentary (although it didn't have the statistics that you mentioned in your previous post).

I haven't watched the documentary, simply because, I haven't time to watch an hour long documentary. If you summarize the main credible evidence he puts forward I'll look into it.

oceanclub

yekahs wrote: »

I haven't watched the documentary, simply because, I haven't time to watch an hour long documentary. If you summarize the main credible evidence he puts forward I'll look into it.

It's amazing how many of these guys recommend a documentary that they can't even summarize. I mean, how dumb can you be?

P.

Truthrevolution

Yekahs i have been trawling through your studies there and to be honest they seem a little watery.There are no case studies, no patients named, no statistics, no links to the findings......

Here is a study which documents real people, their treatments and the progress they are making.....

http://www.cancure.org/chp12.pdf

Here is a website dedicated to cancer research, have a read of them if you get the chance

http://worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/research.html

oceanclub

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Yekahs i have been trawling through your studies there and to be honest they seem a little watery.There are no case studies, no patients named, no statistics, no links to the findings......

Here is a study which documents real people, their treatments and the progress they are making.....

http://www.cancure.org/chp12.pdf

Those aren't studies. Those are anecdotes.

P.

studiorat

oceanclub wrote: »

Those aren't studies. Those are anecdotes.

P.

lol

robtri

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Yekahs i have been trawling through your studies there and to be honest they seem a little watery.There are no case studies, no patients named, no statistics, no links to the findings......

Here is a study which documents real people, their treatments and the progress they are making.....

http://www.cancure.org/chp12.pdf

Here is a website dedicated to cancer research, have a read of them if you get the chance

http://worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/research.html

are you serious....
have you even looked at these websites...

heres a quote from the disclaimer page... FFS a discalaimer page LOL

"The information contained in this web-site is intended for educational purposes only. All the products mentioned in this web-site are intended solely as food and dietary supplements to enhance general health and to reinforce the body's own defence mechanisms against disease. Please be informed that by providing you with this information we do not attempt to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."

Truthrevolution

robtri wrote: »

are you serious....
have you even looked at these websites...

heres a quote from the disclaimer page... FFS a discalaimer page LOL

"The information contained in this web-site is intended for educational purposes only. All the products mentioned in this web-site are intended solely as food and dietary supplements to enhance general health and to reinforce the body's own defence mechanisms against disease. Please be informed that by providing you with this information we do not attempt to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."

By law they have to provide these disclaimers to cover their ***.A bit like the way all your medicine contains a "possible side effects" disclaimer.

robtri

Truthrevolution wrote: »

By law they have to provide these disclaimers to cover their ***.A bit like the way all your medicine contains a "possible side effects" disclaimer.

what law???????

Is this discussion even about Jim Corr any more?

This isn't a scientific discussion forum. If it doesn't get back on topic this thread will be closed.

studiorat

-JammyDodger- wrote: »

Is this discussion even about Jim Corr any more?

This isn't a scientific discussion forum. If it doesn't get back on topic this thread will be closed.

Got that bit right.

Considering last time I looked Jim was publishing the merits of B17 on his Facebook, so surely it's still in the realms of the discussion. As tight as they are on this forum tbh.

bonkey

studiorat wrote: »

Considering last time I looked Jim was publishing the merits of B17 on his Facebook, so surely it's still in the realms of the discussion.

No, its not.

This isn't the "discuss anything that Jim Corr has ever mentioned" thread.

The title is pretty specific about what we're supposed to be discussing, so lets either get back to that, or close the thread

studiorat

:rolleyes:

Discuss if he's a disinformation agent, but not what he says.

Gotcha.

espinolman

Well i always thought that it was Gerry Ryan that is a New World order plant , not Jim Corr .

briankirby

venkman wrote: »

I am beginning to suspect that Jim Corr may be an agent working for the new world order. His appearance on the saturady night chat show, where he highlighted the most disprovable elements of the 9/11 conspiracy theory, as well as his other outlandish statements, just served to detract from the whole movement's credability.

His sudden change from member of a pop band to conspiracy theorist happened too suddenly to be plausible. The band broke up in 2006 and jim started making statements in 2007. This time would have been long enough for him to undergo reprogramming for his new role in one of the CIAs eastern european torture camps. As a famous musician irish people would naturally look up to him and value his opinions.

Jim definitely has way too much time on his hands.Wens the last time they recorded a single?
He is a definite product of idleness

Torakx

Actually the B17 issue here is rather important to me with finding out if he is a NWO plant or just a bit enthusiastic about the "new age movement" and other things like that.
I at first considered he may be but if its true he is closely following issues on cancer and aids like the b17 theory then i am a little less likely to think he is just political and he may just be harmless.
In saying that is it the other way around!
Is the b17 issue so debunked that he is using it and more to discredit the whole movement against the NWO for the sake of irish people?
I doubt it but cant fully throw that theory out the window either.
If i was to make a bet right now id say he had some free time after his music career and stumbled across the same rabbit hole i did 2 years ago.
And did what i would liked to have done but just not how i would have done it with the money he had spare.

If thats so fair play to him for making it public.Either way he is a brave man to publicly face ridicule from irish tv and radio presenters.
I think the fact he put his past career,his name and reputation on the line for things like the b17 issue which i am skeptical about tells me he is most likely a good guy but quick to judge,much like myself
We all have to remember to double check our thinking before trusting an issue and ive made that mistake myself many times.

noodledog

Corr is most certainly an agent. I have questioned him myself, as have many of my friends, as to why he was making us all look foolish with his Alex Jones crap. We have offered to help but he's not moving.

One of the guys who frequents umunu.com sent him an angry 'cease and desist this crap' sort of mail. Now while malice wasn't the intent, it sounded pretty bad. He did offer to help Corr straighten out his info and work with him to better serve the truth to the people.

Since the mail was sent from his personal email address (he wasn't trying to hide), Corr (under the guise of his "webmaster") retaliated by sending back a picture of the guy and his girlfriend that he ripped off facebook and the statement 'who the **** are you?'. Pure intimidation tactic!

a.) I doubt his 'webmaster' answers emails on Sunday mornings for him, or that he even has one.

b.) Don't call people 'mentally retarded' and threaten them with the law because they're saying it like it is... Which as far as I can recall was a threat he had withdrawn by the end of their minor email war.

He doesn't answer for his mistakes, and he largely ignores any input offered with the best of intentions. AGENT.

Ray D'Arsey defo didn't give JimJam enough of a say about the vaccines though, and clearly isn't at all researched in the history of tamiflu or derivatives. So tbh they both were going at it like a pair of uninformed idiots! I'm sure Ray is more than happy to poison his infant child with all sorts of vaccines and shots he knows nothing about from the sound of things. If you travelled back in time 100 years you wouldn't willingly accept what they considered medical treatment back then. The standards have changed little as to what damage doctors will carelessly do, they've just changed how it's administered. Even my own sister who had work related stresses recently went to the doctor with anxiety (not depression). They gave her Lexapro. The effect of lexapro? It's a long term treatment for depression, and the happy effect it causes comes from CHEMICALS EATING THROUGH YOUR BRAIN, causing your brain to release endorphins to protect you from the searing pail.. I know this all too well because that little pill almost ruined my life (had to drop out of college) about 5 years ago. So go on, trust your GP.

The cold hard facts are this: Secret societies do exist, and they will bring down the hammer. If you're sitting there laughing at me now that's your problem.

As far as Jesse Ventura & co. go, check out the poster for this major flop! Anyone familiar with they signs will see it all, not to mention the actual meaning of 'Abraxus'... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas,_Guardian_of_the_Universe

Thank you and goodnight!

thecommander

noodledog wrote: »

Corr is most certainly an agent. I have questioned him myself, as have many of my friends, as to why he was making us all look foolish with his Alex Jones crap. We have offered to help but he's not moving.

Why can't he just be a bit unstable? How can you tell the difference between that and a disinfo agent?

fontanalis

To paraphrase an old saying
Never attribute malice where stupidity will suffice.

noodledog

thecommander wrote: »

Why can't he just be a bit unstable? How can you tell the difference between that and a disinfo agent?

Well I suppose the terribly idiotic attempt at intimidation doesn't suffice as pretty good proof? It's textbook disinfo agent, question me and i'll silence you crap that Alex Jones & Co. come out with.

He's an agent cut and dry, I know at least 2 people who had big (non agressive) talks with him about Alex Jones and he doesn't want to know! Could not care less and is not interested in changing his position.

Agent.

Would you not rather have ANYONE ELSE up there talking about it? He's making a mockery of all conspiracy theorists, and it's not the evidence he presents that's the problem, it's the presentation.

Again, it mirrors Jone's littlebig movement in the sense that it looks perfectly rational to people who already have a little knowledge, but to people who know nothing it sounds like just another crackpot. It's designed to be this way, so it operates on the basis that detractors who know the truth (in this case me) will be silenced by those who have a little hope he's going the right direction (you). Just a mini example.. This is rampant behaviour with Jonesites who silence all who speak ill of god-man Alex without actually looking into it.

Flamed Diving

Just out of interest, when the did CTer's begin to turn on each other? It is an interesting (even if predictable) outcome.