Mintex Brake Pads

Forest Master

Hey guys,

I need some Brembo brake pads for a 2003 XKR. None of my local tyre places (Fast Fit, etc) seem to be able to order them, so my only option is Jag they said.

For a full set, Spirit are charging approx €750.
I contacted Paramount Performance in the UK, and they said to try Stratstone.
I called Stratstone Jaguar in the UK, and it works out at €500 + shipping for the proper Brembo pads.

Anyway: I then went onto eBay UK, and saw these (front, back) Mintex pads, that have the exact same Jag model number as the ones I need - they come to €115 + shipping!!

So there's obviously a HUGE difference between the Brembo price from Spirit in Ireland (and Jag UK), and the Mintex price from the UK eBay seller.

So, my question: does anyone know if these Mintex pads are any good? I don't want to put cheap pads on my car, but from the Googling I've done, the Mintex brand seems to be quite popular and they seem like a big enough company. But if they're so popular, why aren't they available here through Fast Fit, and why didn't Paramount Performance recommend them?

Thanks in advance!

gofaster_s13

Mintex are one of the biggest brake componant manufacturers, you'll have no problems with their pads.

Matt Simis

Forest Master wrote: »

But if they're so popular, why aren't they available here through Fast Fit, and why didn't Paramount Performance recommend them?

Because they cannot compete with eBay based sellers I would imagine and they play the safe game of recommending OEM parts.
I paid EUR300 for front and rear EBC pads from an eBay seller for my former V10 Phaeton. VW wanted EUR750 plus VAT fitted.

mickdw

Mintex should be perfect. Just be sure that the part number is right including any letters at the end of the part number.

Harcrid

I put a set of Ebay Mintex pads on my last car and did not see any issues with them. I only put about 4k miles on them before I sold the car so I can't vouch for how long they would last, but in the time I had them they were fine.

Mr.David

They should be fine from a performance perspective, the only issue could be NVH/refinement - you won't know until they are on the car really but you could feasibly end up with squeal/graunch issues.

So much cheaper though!

Mr.David

One other thing - Brembo don't actually make pads (although the may be branded as Brembo). I'll see if I can find out internally here who the pad supplier is and maybe you can go direct....;)

Henry Ford III

I have a set of Mintex fast road pads on the MkII Escort.

They provide fantastic feel and stopping power (braided brakes lines help), but being for "fast road" use they are pretty wooden until a bit of heat gets into them.

Not sure if this is relevant - probably isn't.

gofaster_s13

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I have a set of Mintex fast road pads on the MkII Escort.

They provide fantastic feel and stopping power (braided brakes lines help), but being for "fast road" use they are pretty wooden until a bit of heat gets into them.

Not sure if this is relevant - probably isn't.

Mintex do several grades of pads from standard through to full race, standard pads wont cause any cold braking issues.

cpoh1

Mr.David wrote: »

One other thing - Brembo don't actually make pads (although the may be branded as Brembo). I'll see if I can find out internally here who the pad supplier is and maybe you can go direct....;)

My oem pads for brembo calipers on the DC5 are made by Ferrodo but branded as brembo (and stickered as honda when sold by them :eek:)
just be careful what mintex pads you get. I have m1144's on my dc5 and m1155's on the skyline. The m1144's are designed for fast road and the m1155's are a race pad and take ages to warm up. Both squeel like pigs when warm in traffic for slow/easy stopping.

The basic mintex pads will be perfect for everyday driving.

5500

I've used there standard and M1144 pad's before. I dont like their oem replacement pads, I found them kack and gave a lot of breakdust, M1144s were much better though.

Voodoomelon

Matt Simis wrote: »

Because they cannot compete with eBay based sellers I would imagine and they play the safe game of recommending OEM parts.
I paid EUR300 for front and rear EBC pads from an eBay seller for my former V10 Phaeton. VW wanted EUR750 plus VAT fitted.

That's bananas, €750 + VAT just for pads?

I'm flying up to Portadown BMW tomorrow for brake parts for my 7 series, getting four discs, four sets of pads, four disc bolts and two wear sensors for €460 + VAT.

I'm guessing the VW price includes labour?

sundodger5

Voodoomelon wrote: »

That's bananas, €750 + VAT just for pads?

I'm flying up to Portadown BMW tomorrow for brake parts for my 7 series, getting four discs, four sets of pads, four disc bolts and two wear sensors for €460 + VAT.

I'm guessing the VW price includes labour?

You have eight brake pads on your car?
that is the danger of a little knowledge.
eight pads = 2 sets = eight pads as a set is 4 pads across an axle always changed together.

daveharnett

sundodger5 wrote: »

You have eight brake pads on your car?
that is the danger of a little knowledge.
eight pads = 2 sets = eight pads as a set is 4 pads across an axle always changed together.

Perhaps he's buying his next brake pad change in advance while he's up there?

Matt Simis

Voodoomelon wrote: »

That's bananas, €750 + VAT just for pads?

I'm flying up to Portadown BMW tomorrow for brake parts for my 7 series, getting four discs, four sets of pads, four disc bolts and two wear sensors for €460 + VAT.

I'm guessing the VW price includes labour?

Yeah "fitted" meaning inc-labour.
The Pads on the V10 Phaeton are physically the same as on the Audi RS4 and other Brembo big brake OEM jobs, so they are expensive:

Caliper looked great too:

Midnight_EG

sundodger5 wrote: »

You have eight brake pads on your car?
that is the danger of a little knowledge.
eight pads = 2 sets = eight pads as a set is 4 pads across an axle always changed together.

Maybe it's the time at night, but for some reason I'm adamant each disc takes 2 pads
So, 4X2=8?

I seriously cant fathom why I'm thinking 8 pads.......and I cant tell myself it's 4 either, just because I'm so run down



FORGIVE MEEE!

Gary ITR

sundodger5 wrote: »

You have eight brake pads on your car?
that is the danger of a little knowledge.
eight pads = 2 sets = eight pads as a set is 4 pads across an axle always changed together.

You're nitpicking. It's quite clear to me what the lad meant

Seperate

Matt Simis wrote: »

Yeah "fitted" meaning inc-labour.
The Pads on the V10 Phaeton are physically the same as on the Audi RS4 and other Brembo big brake OEM jobs, so they are expensive:

Did your Phaeton stay in Ireland?

Sorry for off topic!

OldmanMondeo

Mintex pads are available in Ireland, I think National Autoparts import them. Good pad from what I here, and they are competition to the brand we sell here.

mullingar

Matt Simis wrote: »

Yeah "fitted" meaning inc-labour.
The Pads on the V10 Phaeton are physically the same as on the Audi RS4 and other Brembo big brake OEM jobs, so they are expensive:

Caliper looked great too:

WOW they are serious discs & calipers.

Are those discs the 'floating' type?

Id imagine there is some savage breaking power in them

Mr.David

Right I've had a chat with one of the pads guys downstairs - he said the OEM fittment pads were Galfer but that you can only source them through Jag and they are v dear.

I'd recommend having a look at Ferrodo DS performance pads if you want something a little more aggressive than standard Mintex. The Ferrodos friction coeff rises at higher temps giving a really nice positive pedal feel that gives you confidence. Depends on your driving style really.

Mr.David

mullingar wrote: »

WOW they are serious discs & calipers.

Are those discs the 'floating' type?

Id imagine there is some savage breaking power in them

Yup, they are floating. The reason being that when conventional discs heat up they "cone" as they are not restrained uniformly. This causes judder and knockback. The floating aspect gives a degree of lateral expansion room and so they only expand radially, avoiding most of the above issues.

Pindrive are a new variant on this concept and are pretty cool, the Audi R8 has them. If you look closely you can see the disc is attached to the hub by approx 18 pins or so.

Check out the chunky mass dampers on each end of the caliper too

Voodoomelon

sundodger5 wrote: »

You have eight brake pads on your car?
that is the danger of a little knowledge.
eight pads = 2 sets = eight pads as a set is 4 pads across an axle always changed together.

Ironic post of the week.
Yes it has 8 pads, and the pads come in sets of two, not four.

= four sets.

Midnight_EG

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Ironic post of the week.
Yes it has 8 pads, and the pads come in sets of two, not four.

= four sets.

THANK YOU!


I thought I was going mad, refer to my last post :P

Forest Master

sundodger5 wrote: »

You have eight brake pads on your car?
that is the danger of a little knowledge.
eight pads = 2 sets = eight pads as a set is 4 pads across an axle always changed together.

I have 8 pads on my car too - 2 on each wheel. Kinda common on an all-disc car, no?

Voodoomelon

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Ironic post of the week.
Yes it has 8 pads, and the pads come in sets of two, not four.

= four sets.

Nope, a set for the front and a set for the back. Pads are sold in sets, sets of 4.

Rovi

In my experience, brake pads (and shoes) are sold in 'axle sets'.
ie. enough pads/shoes in the box to do both ends of one axle.

sundodger5

Rovi wrote: »

In my experience, brake pads (and shoes) are sold in 'axle sets'.
ie. enough pads/shoes in the box to do both ends of one axle.

Exactly, a set is enough to do an axle. 4 pads in a set 8 pads in a car with discs all round = 2 sets.

Midnight_EG

sundodger5 wrote: »

Exactly, a set is enough to do an axle. 4 pads in a set 8 pads in a car with discs all round = 2 sets.

You wont get around the stupidness that was your original question/remark 'you have 8 brake pads on your car?' :pac:

sundodger5

Midnight_EG wrote: »

You wont get around the stupidness that was your original question/remark 'you have 8 brake pads on your car?' :pac:

i have to say that having re read what i put originally you are correct i should have put down 16 pads (4 sets as stated by voodoomelon) should get more sleep.
apologies for confusing the issue and being pedantic on the how many pads in a set.

allisbleak

Seperate wrote: »

Did your Phaeton stay in Ireland?

Sorry for off topic!

I had a 6.0L w12 phaeton for a week about 4 years ago in uk. lunatic car