Retired Numbers

Doctor Zaius

Just reading there that the No3 jerseys at Nottingham Forest and Inter Milan are both retired. At Forest for Stuart Pearce, at Inter for Giacinto Fachetti.

Anyone know of any other clubs that have retired numbers? I don't think it's happened at Arsenal. To be honest, I didnt really realise that it happened in soccer, always thought it was more of an American thing.

Ush1

First that came to mind is Mark Vivien Foe for Manchester City. But anyway, here's a list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retired_numbers_in_association_football

Simply Red

Pretty sure West Ham have retired the number 6 for Bobby Moore

Eire-Dearg

Paulo Maldini is a recent one, his #3 at Milan.

Never new it was common that clubs retired numbers of players who died. If you look a the "Years" section of the link above most of the players where there for only a short time.

Reganio 2

You have to laugh at FC Midtjylland retiring the number 14 jersey for Mohamed Zidan, he played less than 50 games there, so basically 2 seasons. Bit much.

redout

Cruyff @ Ajax

#14

DazMarz

Chelsea have more or less retired the #25 for Gianfranco Zola. No other player has since held that number (and I can't see them giving it out willy-nilly either).

Frisbee

Did Sevilla retire Puertas jersey no?

Bukman13

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Paulo Maldini is a recent one, his #3 at Milan.

Milan #3 aint fully retired, He gave his son permission to use it, if he ever makes it. haha

dreamers75

Frisbee wrote: »

Did Sevilla retire Puertas jersey no?

yup

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Unless a player died, I can't see the point.

Ush1

Des wrote: »

Unless a player died, I can't see the point.

Well it's all tokenistic. You can show respect to living people for being great servants to a club etc..

Reganio 2

Des wrote: »

Unless a player died, I can't see the point.

I am actually the opposite tbh, just cause a player died shouldn't mean his jersey is retired. Like Foe at City, yeah its a nice idea and that but he was hardly a major man at City and was just a normal squad player till he died.

Zaph

Frisbee wrote: »

Did Sevilla retire Puertas jersey no?

dreamers75 wrote: »

yup

Not quite, according to that Wikipedia page

The shirt has not been fully retired. It was temporarily retired after Puerta died of a cardiac arrest on the first matchday in La Liga 2007–2008 However, the Spanish Football Federation rules state that clubs must use number 1 to 25 for their regular squad, and as a result, David Prieto wore the number in 2008 in honour of his friend.

Xavi6

Foe's Lyon number 17 shirt has come out of retirement.

kmart6

Some interesting little facts in that Wiki article!

Bukman13

#1 For Ferencváros.

Gyula Grosics never played for Ferencváros during his career. Although he wanted to do so, the Communist regime in Hungary did not allow him to sign for them. Grosics thus ended his career. At the age of 82, he was allowed to sign for the club officially and stand in goal for a few minutes in a friendly against English club Sheffield United before being substituted.

Cool Story.

PHB

I don't ever think a shirt should be retired, even after somebody dies, even while wearing it.

I think ultimately, what makes football clubs special is their history. There have been plenty of players who have worn the number 7 shirt at United who could make it worthy of retirement, but ultimately, what makes the shirt so special is the players who have worn it, Best, Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo.

It's got a history and an expectation and I like that.

Ush1

Xavi6 wrote: »

Foe's Lyon number 17 shirt has come out of retirement.

The particularly poignancy of that was Coupet playing for France shortly after, and crying his eyes out during the moments silence. Really got to me.

kmart6

PHB wrote: »

I don't ever think a shirt should be retired, even after somebody dies, even while wearing it.

I think ultimately, what makes football clubs special is their history. There have been plenty of players who have worn the number 7 shirt at United who could make it worthy of retirement, but ultimately, what makes the shirt so special is the players who have worn it, Best, Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo.

It's got a history and an expectation and I like that.

It's really an American thing though! Way more plausible over there considering numbers run from 0-100 in their main sports!

Xavi6

kmart6 wrote: »

It's really an American thing though! Way more plausible over there considering numbers run from 0-100 in their main sports!

They run from 0-100 in football as well. Just look at the state of Serie A.

GavRedKing

Baresi's number 6 at milan is retired im sure.

kmart6

Xavi6 wrote: »

They run from 0-100 in football as well. Just look at the state of Serie A.

True,but not as predominantly as in American sports! very unusual too see a huge varity of numbers outside of say Italy and I think the Germans have a habit for it to!

starbelgrade

Xavi6 wrote: »

Foe's Lyon number 17 shirt has come out of retirement.

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m@cc@

I recall Argentina wanted to retire the number 10 shirt at the '98 World Cup but FIFA wouldn't allow it, so Ortega was given it.

kmart6

m@cc@ wrote: »

I recall Argentina wanted to retire the number 10 shirt at the '98 World Cup but FIFA wouldn't allow it, so Ortega was given it.

Go on...just admit it....you read the Wiki aticke didn't you?!;)

m@cc@

kmart6 wrote: »

Go on...just admit it....you read the Wiki aticke didn't you?!;)

I didn't actually. I have a scarily good memory of football from that time as I was growing up. I can tell you in the opening game of that World Cup Brazil beat Scotland 2-1 through an own goal from Tommy Boyd. And Austria scored in all 3 of their games in the 90th minute.

starbelgrade

m@cc@ wrote: »

I recall Argentina wanted to retire the number 10 shirt at the '98 World Cup but FIFA wouldn't allow it, so Ortega was given it.

The same happened when Cameroon tried to retire Marc-Vivien FoÃ's shirt - FIFA rules don't allow international teams to do it.

Bubs101

PHB wrote: »

I don't ever think a shirt should be retired, even after somebody dies, even while wearing it.

I think ultimately, what makes football clubs special is their history. There have been plenty of players who have worn the number 7 shirt at United who could make it worthy of retirement, but ultimately, what makes the shirt so special is the players who have worn it, Best, Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo.

It's got a history and an expectation and I like that.

Completely agree. Juve could have retired the number 1 jersey for Zoff for example but that would have deprived Buffon from ever wearing it. Youngsters look up to these guys. I'm sure little Romans for example all want to wear number 10 after Totti but once they retire that an aspect of the dream is ruined

kmart6

m@cc@ wrote: »

I didn't actually. I have a scarily good memory of football from that time as I was growing up. I can tell you in the opening game of that World Cup Brazil beat Scotland 2-1 through an own goal from Tommy Boyd. And Austria scored in all 3 of their games in the 90th minute.

That you may have, but you were 4 years to early, Argentina only retired #10 in 2001, and had to bring it back for the 2002 WC!

Reganio 2

Yep I am with the people against it, especially if its a 1-11 number. I mean most strikers dream of being that number 9 for their favourite team, if its retired your fecked.

m@cc@

kmart6 wrote: »

That you may have, but you were 4 years to early, Argentina only retired #10 in 2001, and had to bring it back for the 2002 WC!

Doh! Well, not that good then. Well at least proves I knew the original fact (I think).

cashville

Roma retired the number 6 jersey for Aldair.

DazMarz

It's a mark of respect on one hand... But can get out of hand really. I vaguely remember looking at that Wiki article, and there are some teams have 4-5 numbers retired, I think. That's getting a bit crazy. Heaven forbid the day ever arrives when we see a player running onto the field with ''101'' on their back or something!!!:eek:

kmart6

Or more like in Futurama with the 5/8's on the baseball jerseys!

CiaranC

Rovers retired the number 12 after the 400 club took over

20 Times 20 Times

why ?

Doctor Zaius

kmart6 wrote: »

Or more like in Futurama with the 5/8's on the baseball jerseys!

blurnsball the sport of the future, along with rollerball.

(getting very pedantic there, sorry)

Saint_Mel

CiaranC wrote: »

Rovers retired the number 12 after the 400 club took over

I assume it so the fans are the 12th man

everdead.ie

I don't really think that numbers should be retired but reserved maybe say for instance at spurs the number 4 was worn by Blanchflower that should be reserved, untill someone comes along proves themself to the club then gets the honour of wearing the number four thus the club honours Blanchflower by only allowing the best to wear the #4 and the player is honoured somewhat by wearing #4. It would be especially appealing to those who come through the academy.

larchielads

Bukman13 wrote: »

#1 For Ferencváros.

Gyula Grosics never played for Ferencváros during his career. Although he wanted to do so, the Communist regime in Hungary did not allow him to sign for them. Grosics thus ended his career. At the age of 82, he was allowed to sign for the club officially and stand in goal for a few minutes in a friendly against English club Sheffield United before being substituted.

Cool Story.

How did he ever pass a medical at the age of 82?:pac:

anyone remember zamarano wore the numbers 1+8 on his jersey for inter milan. think he had the number 9 but then i think inter gave it to ronaldo when they signed him so zamarano wore 1+8 .....thats just weird!!!

larchielads

here's zamarano wit his 1+8 jerseyhttp://http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SxaXLqz-FPw/RlmOzpjvIvI/AAAAAAAAABU/wtAh4_o-dF0/s200/zamorano.jpg
if link doesnt work just type in zamarano wearing 1+8 jersey hit images and its on the 1st page

pickarooney

Bubs101 wrote: »

Completely agree. Juve could have retired the number 1 jersey for Zoff for example but that would have deprived Buffon from ever wearing it.

Doesn't he wear the controversial number 88?

Xavi6

larchielads wrote: »

How did he ever pass a medical at the age of 82?:pac:

anyone remember zamarano wore the numbers 1+8 on his jersey for inter milan. think he had the number 9 but then i think inter gave it to ronaldo when they signed him so zamarano wore 1+8 .....thats just weird!!!

Pfft

Bubs101

pickarooney wrote: »

Doesn't he wear the controversial number 88?

Nah, he wore that number the year he emerged and took Bucci's place at Parma and maybe the year after that but I think he realised that he should probably drop the fascist thing. In his defence he was very young

pablomakaveli

Cork City retired the No.12 jersey a few years ago and dedicated it to the fans.

Seaneh

gavredking wrote: »

Baresi's number 6 at milan is retired im sure.

Yup.

There was talk of Costacurta's number 5 being retired too.