How I Plan To Stop The Recession, House The Homeless, & Create Jobs For Irish...

IrishManSaipan

Dr_Phil wrote: »

Then you are obviously wrong. As Irish Society (on which behalf you seem to be appointed to speak) voted for EU including all it's pro's and con's, then you have to either respect the will of the Irish Society or leave and maybe set your own state somwewhere in a middle of desert and keep it yours, only YOURS, YOUR OWN!!!

And if you don't think so, then educate yourself:

http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/freetravel/fsj_freetravel_intro_en.htm

"The right to free movement means that every EU citizen is entitled to travel freely around the Member States of the European Union and to settle anywhere within the EU."

Wrong. You need a residency permit to reside in Poland for longer than three months.

A valid passport is required to enter the country. If you plan to stay for longer than three months, you will need to obtain a residence permit from the local immigration office within these first three months. This permit is valid for a year and entitles the bearer to take up work.
If you are from a non-EU country, please check with your embassy about regulations for working in Poland.

How do I apply for a visa?

If you are from a non-EU country, contact the Polish embassy in the country where you are currently residing. If you are living in the UK, go to the Polish Embassy in London. You might also find it helpful to contact your ministry of foreign affairs (or your own embassy if you are not living in your home country) to ask whether there are any issues to be taken into account when considering working in Poland.

IrishManSaipan

TheZohan wrote: »

Is racist, it's advocating ethnic cleansing.

So, calling for stringent immigration controls that benefit Ireland first and foremost, equates with ethnic cleansing?

Heres the definition of ethnic cleansing;
The term 'ethnic cleansing' has frequently been employed to refer to the events in Bosnia and Herzegovina which are the subject of this case ... General Assembly resolution 47/121 referred in its Preamble to 'the abhorrent policy of 'ethnic cleansing', which is a form of genocide', as being carried on in Bosnia and Herzegovina. ... It [i.e. ethnic cleansing] can only be a form of genocide within the meaning of the [Genocide] Convention, if it corresponds to or falls within one of the categories of acts prohibited by Article II of the Convention. Neither the intent, as a matter of policy, to render an area “ethnically homogeneous”, nor the operations that may be carried out to implement such policy, can as such be designated as genocide: the intent that characterizes genocide is “to destroy, in whole or in part” a particular group, and deportation or displacement of the members of a group, even if effected by force, is not necessarily equivalent to destruction of that group, nor is such destruction an automatic consequence of the displacement. This is not to say that acts described as 'ethnic cleansing' may never constitute genocide, if they are such as to be characterized as, for example, 'deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part', contrary to Article II, paragraph (c), of the Convention, provided such action is carried out with the necessary specific intent (dolus specialis), that is to say with a view to the destruction of the group, as distinct from its removal from the region. As the ICTY has observed, while 'there are obvious similarities between a genocidal policy and the policy commonly known as 'ethnic cleansing' ' (Krstić, IT-98-33-T, Trial Chamber Judgment, 2 August 2001, para. 562), yet '[a] clear distinction must be drawn between physical destruction and mere dissolution of a group. The expulsion of a group or part of a group does not in itself suffice for genocide.

Tchaikovsky

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Anyways, the Poles are the same ethnicity as us Pads(OMG racism).......

Errr no, no they're not. Slavic + Celtic = not the same

We could always build a casino over Newgrange, a carpark on the Burren and turn the GPO into a stripclub.. that might create some jobs for the Polacks (yeah, while we're on racist slurs and all)

pp_me

Xinkai wrote: »

Topic Continued : For Irish, Polish, & Americans.

Ok hear me out, out of nowhere i've gotten the best idea ever.

We all know the Grand Canyon right? Well, i say somebody negotiates a deal to sell a bit at the back, close end to Vegas, And heres my step by step plan.

1. On Said Plot Of Land, BUILD YOUR FLAMIN APARTMENTS THERE, THERES MORE ROOM THAN THERE IS LEFT IN ALL OF IRELAND.

2. Seeing as how the Polish like to flock by the millions to other countries to work, they'll be alerted of the jobs there, and move on to the states!

3. With the Polish now out of Ireland, this will free up millions of jobs in Ireland, allowing the Irish to get a job, & Save the Social Welfare billions on dole, thus, saving the Irish economy.

4. With said Polish gone, houses and countless apartments here will be freed up, mostly around Smithfield, Ballymun & Tallaght. The corporation can move the homeless into these apartments for a small fee, & send the recently employed 'Care Division' around checking on the new, happy tenants once a week to see if thier back on thier feet yet.

End result, More jobs in the American (Making Obama Happy, Along With Countless Polish & Some Possible Irish Immigrants) and Irish economy.

Money is saved, Cowen gets sacked, water gets turned back on, Wages get raised now that Ireland is out of the Recession.

EVERYONES HAPPY.

Everyone is not happy, the economy would only suffer more with all those polish not paying rents :P
If the polish are not paying rents.. the landlords are then out of pocket.
They wont find anyone else to go into these apartments because there is already too many house sitting around with no one in them, we dont need any more.
These apartments that there is no one in will then become run down. they will then become a bigger eyesore than they already are (Thank you An Bord Pleanála) These eyesores will then become centres for large amounts of unsocial behaviour, alot of this will be fueled by drugs. These drugs which are bought through unoffical sources, meaning no VAT is paid on them :P. When people then switch to buying these drugs the goverments current revenue will fall. Bringing the huge debt bill of this country even further into the red.

Tchaikovsky

pp_me wrote: »

Everyone is not happy, the economy would only suffer more with all those polish not paying rents :P
If the polish are not paying rents.. the landlords are then out of pocket.
They wont find anyone else to go into these apartments because there is already too many house sitting around with no one in them, we dont need any more.
These apartments that there is no one in will then become run down. they will then become a bigger eyesore than they already are (Thank you An Bord Pleanála) These eyesores will then become centres for large amounts of unsocial behaviour, alot of this will be fueled by drugs. These drugs which are bought through unoffical sources, meaning no VAT is paid on them :P. When people then switch to buying these drugs the goverments current revenue will fall. Bringing the huge debt bill of this country even further into the red.

Simple: demolish the abandoned developed sites and reclaim them for agriculture.

Tchaikovsky

Oh, and by the way OP, did you not stop to think that the millions of Mexican immigrants in the US would get first dibs on the back-breaking labour?

IrishManSaipan

pp_me wrote: »

Everyone is not happy, the economy would only suffer more with all those polish not paying rents :P
If the polish are not paying rents.. the landlords are then out of pocket.

There are currently over 300,000 unoccupied properties in Ireland. The markets phuced either way. What you seem to be forgetting is that there are circa 45,000(and their dependants!) Poles on the dole here, thus their rent would be subsidised too. Its simply unsustainable. Fianna Fail, IBEC et al brought over hundreds of thousands of cheap labour to build houses from one end of the country to the other. Then rented said houses to said cheap labour. Now the countries gone tits up, the government subsidies said cheap labour to live in said houses.

Crazy scenario. Only in Ireland.:mad:

IrishManSaipan

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

Simple: demolish the abandoned developed sites and reclaim them for agriculture.

Three words. Common Agricultural Policy. We would be shipping the food off to some landfill.;)

Tchaikovsky

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

some landfill.;)

That's what the Isle of Man is there for

goose2005

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

Simple: demolish the abandoned developed sites and reclaim them for agriculture.

The cost of demolishing an acre of houses and making the land fit for farming would be far, far more than the potential profit from farming that acre. But thanks for playing.

Dr_Phil

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Wrong. You need a residency permit to reside in Poland for longer than three months.

A valid passport is required to enter the country. If you plan to stay for longer than three months, you will need to obtain a residence permit from the local immigration office within these first three months. This permit is valid for a year and entitles the bearer to take up work.
If you are from a non-EU country, please check with your embassy about regulations for working in Poland.

How do I apply for a visa?

If you are from a non-EU country, contact the Polish embassy in the country where you are currently residing. If you are living in the UK, go to the Polish Embassy in London. You might also find it helpful to contact your ministry of foreign affairs (or your own embassy if you are not living in your home country) to ask whether there are any issues to be taken into account when considering working in Poland.

Source of your revelations please...