Humanitas Tournament Discussion

Deki

Sorry, but I try to see a scenario in my mind and it just sort of fades on me...

cyberwolf77

Fewcifur wrote: »

Damn it Deki, now you've raised another point to confuse me. I really can't picture them going after each other. Unless... Indy was after something buried in the AvP temple and Ripley was all "just blow the god damn thing up!" Nah, that's not even hugely plausible. Harungah.
We could just settle it all and assume we're talking about Alien Resurrection Ripley, in which case she'd just bleed on him and all would be over. Dang.

That however, would make her non-human

cyberwolf77

Deki wrote: »

Sorry, but I try to see a scenario in my mind and it just sort of fades on me...

Fine, if they refuse to fight they both get tossed to The Rancor beast

Deki

but together they would definitely beat the rancor

cyberwolf77

They go in one at a time, and they not Jedi

Deki

:rolleyes:you loving this - aren't you?

cyberwolf77

Just vote already

Deki

I'm thinking...don't rush me

cyberwolf77

I not rushing you. Take your time.

Deki

Well I voted Wolf.

cyberwolf77

That was a very well reasoned vote. Thank you kindly.

Deki

So now Jack against Lara? I already decided this.(I mean when everyone's voted on this one.)

cyberwolf77

Jack and Lara are fight 16 for Round 1.

Deki

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Jack and Lara are fight 16 for Round 1.

then who is next - I've lost track?

cyberwolf77

Then we have the first Intermission match, followed by Round 2.

Handsome Bob

Humans IMO have more mental capacity than the Xenomorphs. Yes, I know they've shown signs of intelligence such as using shadows well and in AR when they killed one of their own so the floor would dissolve with acid blood. But c'mon in the main they are pretty fcuking stupid. Take Aliens for example, a sea of them just kept coming and coming even though a lot of them were being taken out by the remote controlled machine guns.

Indy would have taken the Xenomorphs that Ripley did, and he wouldn't have found himself impregnated by them while doing it either.

cyberwolf77

Wow the LZ-Pter voting bloc has split. :eek:

Baggly

When has indy shown he could deal with countless numbers of enemies?

Xenomorphs are the ultimate killers, the ultimate prey and are tough to kill without getting hurt.

Added to that, they wanna make babies with your face.

And ripley took them down. On four seperate occasions. A task which even the mighty predators found challenging.

Indy cant even survive a nuke without a refridgerator.

cyberwolf77

I staying out of this fight.

Handsome Bob

Pter wrote: »

When has indy shown he could deal with countless numbers of enemies?

Xenomorphs are the ultimate killers, the ultimate prey and are tough to kill without getting hurt.

Added to that, they wanna make babies with your face.

And ripley took them down. On four seperate occasions. A task which even the mighty predators found challenging.

Indy cant even survive a nuke without a refridgerator.

Let's look at the times Ripley has taken down Xenomorphs;

She's a natural survivor but that requires an awful amount of luck. Like having a space station full of guns and ammo to hold off Hordes (Aliens), was able to destroy the Queen by killing herself (Alien 3 - and she was fcuked anyway so bravery doesn't come into it), and was able to stay alive for so long in AR because she was connected by blood to the Queen as well as the hybrid.

Human Ripley (and we are talking about the original Ripley, this after all *is* the Human League) IMO is great, but would she have achieved what she did if all she had was a gun, a whip and her smarts? I don't think so. In a basic fight Jones IMO would win.

cyberwolf77

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Let's look at the times Ripley has taken down Xenomorphs;

She's a natural survivor but that requires an awful amount of luck. Like having a space station full of guns and ammo to hold off Hordes (Aliens), was able to destroy the Queen by killing herself (Alien 3 - and she was fcuked anyway so bravery doesn't come into it), and was able to stay alive for so long in AR because she was connected by blood to the Queen as well as the hybrid.

Human Ripley (and we are talking about the original Ripley, this after all *is* the Human League) IMO is great, but would she have achieved what she did if all she had was a gun, a whip and her smarts? I don't think so. In a basic fight Jones IMO would win.

Yep, just humans here

FewFew

No freaks allowed!

Galvasean

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Humans IMO have more mental capacity than the Xenomorphs. Yes, I know they've shown signs of intelligence such as using shadows well and in AR when they killed one of their own so the floor would dissolve with acid blood. But c'mon in the main they are pretty fcuking stupid. Take Aliens for example, a sea of them just kept coming and coming even though a lot of them were being taken out by the remote controlled machine guns.

That's a textbook case of hive intelligence. Aliens don't give a damn about an individual xeno. It is the survival of the hive that is important. They would gladly sacrifice countless numbers of their own to simply waste the enemy's ammunition.
You are just lucky the Tyranids aren't here!

Handsome Bob

Selfless Xenos? You give the hive too much credit good sir! What about that Xeno that was wimpering like a biatch when his "hive" decided to sacrifice him in Alien Resurrection so they could escape? That Xeno didn't seem too happy to die in order for his fellow Xenos to survive!

Baggly

Look, its easy to kill one xeno, but its impossible to stop them all...which is what ripley did.

Its easy to stop nazi's...sure the allies did that no bother.

Handsome Bob

Yeah, it was an easy victory with no casualties all right. :P

Baggly

Eggsactly. Ipso facto, Ripley wins.

Deki

Taking out all those aliens is fantastic, but that isn't who Ripley is fighting now. She's up against another human.: One that I think is quite a lot like her. Is this a fight to the death or just till one says "uncle"? ( I just don't know if she would do it- it's not that I think she couldn't.)

Baggly

Oh yeah cause Indy is all about the bloodlust

Handsome Bob

Indy's all about the common sense;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a7s1vu_1uU

Baggly

One argues that Ripley wouldnt even let him play with the sword

Handsome Bob

This is what happens;

Ripley and Indiana Jones are in a crappy situation where they are forced into battle. Ripley starts bitching to the devious foe who is making them fight each other, Indiana yawns and just shoots her in the back. Game over.

Deki

( in reference to blood lust) No I don't think he is, I don't think she is either,:( i really don't like this match up. I really think they'd be better allies than foes.( and I would like to see that) I don't think either of them actually enjoy the fight, only fight from necessity.

Baggly

Indy is a great character, but imo, he relies on luck while Ripley relies on ingenuity, skill and grit.

She would win out with these characteristics.

FewFew

Pter wrote: »

Indy is a great character, but imo, he relies on luck while Ripley relies on ingenuity, skill and grit.

She would win out with these characteristics.

Ah here, Ripley is all about the luck. Indy has escaped from so many dodgey situations. Ripley just constantly runs. Sure she has good moments when she takes the fight to the Aliens, but normally she's trying to run away and prevent the spread by blowing stuff up. She never actually hunts the lads. She would have been dead in number 3 if it wasn't for her pregnant state.

Nerin

Hey guys,

I know the tournies are great fun and we all get wrapped up in it sometimes, but can you please try and keep the discussion about the events here in these discussion threads?
Mentioning it in the lair is grand in passing, but constantly bringing the discussion there will only get in the way of the folks who arent using the tournies enjoying the forum.

Thanks,

Nerin

cyberwolf77

Nerin wrote: »

Hey guys,

I know the tournies are great fun and we all get wrapped up in it sometimes, but can you please try and keep the discussion about the events here in these discussion threads?
Mentioning it in the lair is grand in passing, but constantly bringing the discussion there will only get in the way of the folks who arent using the tournies enjoying the forum.

Thanks,

Nerin

Sorry sir, know I been guilty of that meself.

Deki

sorry- hangs head.

cyberwolf77

You got dragged into it by me Deki.

Handsome Bob

Re: Koth and Pter's vote, that's true to a certain extent lads, but what mostly wins the day for Jack is his ability to think on his own and ignore CTU and government protocol. That's why Jack has often found himself in hot water and indeed, why he found himself up against the US Senate and possibly facing a court martial. This dude wins the day because he's a free thinker, he still managed to whoop ass in Africa without CTU, he took down entire gangs by his own FFS!

Delirium

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Re: Koth and Pter's vote, that's true to a certain extent lads, but what mostly wins the day for Jack is his ability to think on his own and ignore CTU and government protocol. That's why Jack has often found himself in hot water and indeed, why he found himself up against the US Senate and possibly facing a court martial. This dude wins the day because he's a free thinker, he still managed to whoop ass in Africa without CTU, he took down entire gangs by his own FFS!

When I'm only now starting to watch the show, as I finally picked up series one.

And without all the intel provided by other people in the show, the first series would have been basically Jack grounding his daughter :P

cyberwolf77

randylonghorn wrote: »

Lara Croft, coz all she has to do is give him the eye, and Bauer will unload his weapon.

Gee, how did I see that coming

Handsome Bob

Galvasean wrote: »

Lara Croft has fought, dinosaurs, aliens, monsters, demons, agents at area 51 etc. etc. etc. and come out on top.
Bauer's escapades against 'durka durka' style terrorists pale in comparison.

Really? I don't remember that, that being said I only remember the first three games, there was no freaks in them right?

Galvasean

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Selfless Xenos? You give the hive too much credit good sir! What about that Xeno that was wimpering like a biatch when his "hive" decided to sacrifice him in Alien Resurrection so they could escape? That Xeno didn't seem too happy to die in order for his fellow Xenos to survive!

Forced natural selection. The xenos kill off any weakling with 'emotions'. Keeps teh hive fighting fit.

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Yeah, it was an easy victory with no casualties all right. :P

Operation D-Day, also known as, OPeration: "Charge at them headlong, they can't possibly shoot us all!" - a tactic eerily similar to the one used by the xenos in Aliens :cool:

Galvasean

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Really? I don't remember that, that being said I only remember the first three games, there was no freaks in them right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wpUqq6G1g

Can Jack do that?

Handsome Bob

That reminds me, I'm going to watch Aliens Resurrection now, LZ's guilty pleasure. :cool: :pac:

EDIT Jack could do that with ease, jesus all he needs to do is shout and those pansy dinosaurs will go wimpering back to where they came from.

Galvasean

LZ5by5 wrote: »

EDIT Jack could do that with ease, jesus all he needs to do is shout and those pansy dinosaurs will go wimpering back to where they came from.

Oh I'm sorry, I though this tourney was about the respective characters' actual abilities, not ChuckNorrisisms

Handsome Bob

Chuck Norris you say?

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055756161

FewFew

I went with Lara on this, but really I reckon a decent shot in the face is enough to take out a dino... Lara is peppering those chaps and they're taking a long time to die. I now question her aim.

Galvasean

Fewcifur wrote: »

I went with Lara on this, but really I reckon a decent shot in the face is enough to take out a dino... Lara is peppering those chaps and they're taking a long time to die. I now question her aim.

Scaly skin FTW.That's video game bosses for you. They can take an unusual amount of punishment. Heck, it takes a fair few bullets to take down Lara aswell.