Human Implanted Microchips

uprising2

studiorat wrote: »

I'm a busy Rat. Stuff to be doing out in the real world. But it's OK, I'm back.

So apologies for keeping you all waiting, where were we? Did we have a look to see what Nano Technology really means?

BTW my new RFID is working just dandy in case you were wondering.

Listen RFID doesn't have to transmit anything, how many bit's of data would be required to hold a 20 alphanumeric code?, 20, what is the smallest possible size you imagine a chip that need's to hold 20bit's of data could possibly be?, it does not have to transmit anything, it simply needs to be a reflector, like a tiny mirror that reflects when a light is shone on it, except using a radio frequency, revealing a code. The true power lies in the sophistication of the transmitter/scanner/reciever, it may sound a bit star trek like, but do you remember they had video phones in star trek, how did scotty know when to beam them up?

Truthrevolution

Over in the US the Virginia house of delegates have passed a bill which forbids corporate companies from forcing employees to accept implanted RFID microchips.Apparently the reason being to protect people from receiving the "Mark of the Beast".Lets hope more government bodies take a leaf out of their book over in the state of Virginia!

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/virginia-passes-law-banning-chip-implants-mark-beast/

studiorat

uprising2 wrote: »

Listen RFID doesn't have to transmit anything, how many bit's of data would be required to hold a 20 alphanumeric code?, 20, what is the smallest possible size you imagine a chip that need's to hold 20bit's of data could possibly be?,

Bytes (8bits), alphanumeric ACSII for instance actually is 7 bits. 20 bytes could barely hold my name.

Then you need to keep the thing going because of capacitor leakage, each slot is actually a transistor (switch) and a capacitor to hold the charge. But yes they are tiny, don't forget animals are frequently implanted with ID chips.

The thing is what to do with the information? Obviously there are concerns about human rights not to mention health concerns. But back here, in reality the technology is too fragile and unreliable to use on anybody who didn't actually want one. I mean your Tin Foil hat would be enough to stop anybody reading it. And of course, if they can get it in you can surely get it out, or rescan it with new information etc...

On another note, FYI, nobody actually ever said, "Beam Me up Scotty". Just thought I'd throw that in. I suppose it illustrates how something that didn't actually happen can sink into the collective memory as fact. Why? Because even if it didn't actually occur, it sounds plausable.

Another vaguley interesting fact is that most RFID tech is manufactured in China, although no one has mentioned China in the thread.

Truthrevolution wrote: »

...rently the reason being to protect people from receiving the "Mark of the Beast".Lets hope more government bodies take a leaf out of their bo...

It was only a matter of time before that came up. Bye:rolleyes:

uprising2

studiorat wrote: »

Bytes (8bits), alphanumeric ACSII for instance actually is 7 bits. 20 bytes could barely hold my name.

Then you need to keep the thing going because of capacitor leakage, each slot is actually a transistor (switch) and a capacitor to hold the charge. But yes they are tiny, don't forget animals are frequently implanted with ID chips.

The thing is what to do with the information? Obviously there are concerns about human rights not to mention health concerns. But back here, in reality the technology is too fragile and unreliable to use on anybody who didn't actually want one. I mean your Tin Foil hat would be enough to stop anybody reading it. And of course, if they can get it in you can surely get it out, or rescan it with new information etc...

If you look around you, you will find electronics getting smaller, more sophisticated by the day, to think your up to the minute on this technology is naive.

I'm done with my tinfoil hat, tinfoil capes are the way forward.

Mahatma coat

My cattle are tagged, your reader would probably read the tag, but you would just get very basic information if you could translate it. its not the TAG as Uprising said its the technology to read the tag and use the Data tha matters, I can send a road train out to the farm, it picks up the cattle and scans them I then know in Brisbane Which cattle went in which truck, how much each one weighed, how much food they ate on the trip to Mart and how long it took, I can even tell you which route they took to get there.

Its not the Tag that does all this, its the Integration of the system, we arre already tagged with eftpos cards and eToll thingys and mobile phoes, and all these systems are being integrated so that you can be tracked much in the same way as a droughtmster on its way to becoming a sirloin.

studiorat

Mahatma coat wrote: »

....all these systems are being integrated....

That is conjecture. "Beam Me up Scotty", it's plausable. That doesn't mean it's true.

uprising2

studiorat wrote: »

That is conjecture. "Beam Me up Scotty", it's plausable. That doesn't mean it's true.

Ok so we'll leave it there as this is going nowhere, swings and roundabouts.

studiorat

Well I did tell you that the technology is crap and usless for the applications that were suggested. And all I got was that it was really, really small.

Only a NWO of idiots would use RFID to try and monitor people because anyone who wanted to could reprogram it very easily.

Truthrevolution

studiorat wrote: »

Only a NWO of idiots would use RFID to try and monitor people because anyone who wanted to could reprogram it very easily.

You just dont get it do you? It wont be used to monitor people, it will be used as a way to CONTROL people.There will come a day when the RFID system will replace the need for cash and credit cards with all digital payments being done with RFID chips.So therefor if you reprogramme your chip, you wont be doing yourself any favours.

thecommander

Truthrevolution wrote: »

You just dont get it do you? It wont be used to monitor people, it will be used as a way to CONTROL people.There will come a day when the RFID system will replace the need for cash and credit cards with all digital payments being done with RFID chips.So therefor if you reprogramme your chip, you wont be doing yourself any favours.

Is this just guesswork or do you have any basis for this?

Truthrevolution

thecommander wrote: »

Is this just guesswork or do you have any basis for this?

If you check out their website and read up about it youl see that these chips encorporate a veri-pay system, so the only explanation for this being they intend to use the RFID for carrying out transactions.

http://www.positiveidcorp.com

Check out these videos, just something to get you started

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybKSwuIHvL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVEPlxwlzCE&feature=related

thecommander

Truthrevolution wrote: »

If you check out their website and read up about it youl see that these chips encorporate a veri-pay system, so the only explanation for this being they intend to use the RFID for carrying out transactions

Using rfid to pay for stuff I get, but Im wondering about the distopian future you seem so sure is going to happen.

Truthrevolution

thecommander wrote: »

Using rfid to pay for stuff I get, but Im wondering about the distopian future you seem so sure is going to happen.

Im hopeing it doesnt happen, if enough people awaken themselves to the reality of whats going on, we can hopefully stop this.Discussing my beliefs here would be straying off topic, thats another days work.Anyway do you really think that people being implanted with micro-chips is a good thing?

thecommander

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Im hopeing it doesnt happen, if enough people awaken themselves to the reality of whats going on, we can hopefully stop this.

You're talking as if you know this is definitely going to happen, rather than just an idea you have. I'm asking you how you seem so sure that this is what is planned.

As for human being implanted, I don't see a need for it, but I can see benefits of having it done (medical reasons)

Truthrevolution

thecommander wrote: »

You're talking as if you know this is definitely going to happen, rather than just an idea you have. I'm asking you how you seem so sure that this is what is planned.

As for human being implanted, I don't see a need for it, but I can see benefits of having it done (medical reasons)

Glad to hear you dont think there is any need for it.By "this" i presume you mean the New World Order?? If your looking for a bit of evidence then look no further than the horses mouths.Our politicians and powerbrokers openly boast about setting up their new world order.Heres a few quotes from the powers that be......

We are on the verge of a global transformation.All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the new world order - David Rockefeller

Out of these troubled times a new world order can emerge under a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders - George Bush

We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money - Arthur Schlesinger

studiorat

Truthrevolution wrote: »

If you check out their website and read up about it youl see that these chips encorporate a veri-pay system, so the only explanation for this being they intend to use the RFID for carrying out transactions.

And what the hell is wrong with that ?

Where does it say anything about implanting veri-pay systems? :rolleyes:

theman97

I think the whole thing is sick!!!

zenno

why would a sane person want to put an RFID chip into them. personally i think it's the dumbest thing to do to yourself. personal privacy is all what people want so why would someone want to stick one into them. it's a spacecake idea. i do suppose it has it's advantages like having your favourite pet rfid'd or people suffering from alzimers but i wouldn't stick one of them into me just so it would make it easier to get into a nightclub like they are doing in america. pointless piece of junk other than that. stupid turning yourself into a GPS transmitter.

thecommander

Did I miss something? I cant see anyone or any company asking or telling you to put an RFID chip inside you.

Unfolding before our eyes? Where?

thecommander

theman97 wrote: »

I think the whole thing is sick!!!

Is is if you buy into the CT hype.

If you're rational, and don't believe everything you read on CT site then you're ok.

Truthrevolution

thecommander wrote: »

Did I miss something? I cant see anyone or any company asking or telling you to put an RFID chip inside you.

Looks like you did, heres one such example

http://www.prisonplanet.com/congress-proposed-implanting-airport-workers-with-RFID-chips.html

thecommander wrote: »

Unfolding before our eyes? Where?

Look around you, the new world order masterplan is unfolding.Crash the global economy, lower everybodys living standards, strip away their liberties, evaporate the middle classes, create a slave society whereby those of us lucky enough to have a job will be either working in a government job or for a large multi-national corporation for minimum wage.Eventually people will have no rights and will just be pieces of equipment that will be tracked, monitered and controlled using micro-chips.
Open your eyes, look around you it has already started.They are incrimentally lowering wages all the time, people are losing their jobs, they are squeezing out small businesses, nanny-state laws are being enacted to control us even more etc.

magma69

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Looks like you did, heres one such example

http://www.prisonplanet.com/congress-proposed-implanting-airport-workers-with-RFID-chips.html



Look around you, the new world order masterplan is unfolding.Crash the global economy, lower everybodys living standards, strip away their liberties, evaporate the middle classes, create a slave society whereby those of us lucky enough to have a job will be either working in a government job or for a large multi-national corporation for minimum wage.Eventually people will have no rights and will just be pieces of equipment that will be tracked, monitered and controlled using micro-chips.
Open your eyes, look around you it has already started.They are incrimentally lowering wages all the time, people are losing their jobs, they are squeezing out small businesses, nanny-state laws are being enacted to control us even more etc.

Just out of interest when do you think this dystopian world will be complete. In 10 years time, what liberties do you think we will have lost? Will we have freedom of speech? Will it be mandatory to get a RFID chip? Give me a summary of the world you envisage 10 years from now. I can't help but think you are slightly over reacting.

I agree that the middle class is reducing in sizr and multi national corporations are getting an ever increasing strangle hold on the economy. This isn't an NWO master plan though, it's called Capitalism and it's been around since the 18th century. I believe Capitalism will eventually fail us and be replaced through revolution but that is going off topic.

thecommander

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Look around you, the new world order masterplan is unfolding.Crash the global economy, lower everybodys living standards, strip away their liberties, evaporate the middle classes, create a slave society whereby those of us lucky enough to have a job will be either working in a government job or for a large multi-national corporation for minimum wage.Eventually people will have no rights and will just be pieces of equipment that will be tracked, monitered and controlled using micro-chips.
Open your eyes, look around you it has already started.They are incrimentally lowering wages all the time, people are losing their jobs, they are squeezing out small businesses, nanny-state laws are being enacted to control us even more etc.

I bet in 100 years you could copy paste that exact same article and it would still have the same foreboding message. But it still wont have happened, always "soon" or just around the corner.

theman97

thecommander wrote: »

I bet in 100 years you could copy paste that exact same article and it would still have the same foreboding message. But it still wont have happened, always "soon" or just around the corner.

i bet you their will be a new world in 100 years

theman97

zenno wrote: »

why would a sane person want to put an RFID chip into them. personally i think it's the dumbest thing to do to yourself. personal privacy is all what people want so why would someone want to stick one into them. it's a spacecake idea. i do suppose it has it's advantages like having your favourite pet rfid'd or people suffering from alzimers but i wouldn't stick one of them into me just so it would make it easier to get into a nightclub like they are doing in america. pointless piece of junk other than that. stupid turning yourself into a GPS transmitter.

I know some one could just buy a credit card scanner and steal your id, all your personal information, and most all of your money

theman97

thecommander wrote: »

Did I miss something? I cant see anyone or any company asking or telling you to put an RFID chip inside you.

Unfolding before our eyes? Where?

everywhere...its all around you if you just open your eyes

theman97, I've deleted all of your off topic posts. If you're going to post in a thread, please make your posts relevant to the topic.

theman97

i saw some thing that said veri chips are the mark of the beast
thats a little out there but it could be true

Truthrevolution

magma69 wrote: »

Just out of interest when do you think this dystopian world will be complete. In 10 years time, what liberties do you think we will have lost? Will we have freedom of speech? Will it be mandatory to get a RFID chip? Give me a summary of the world you envisage 10 years from now. I can't help but think you are slightly over reacting.

I agree that the middle class is reducing in sizr and multi national corporations are getting an ever increasing strangle hold on the economy. This isn't an NWO master plan though, it's called Capitalism and it's been around since the 18th century. I believe Capitalism will eventually fail us and be replaced through revolution but that is going off topic.

The NWO elites have used capitalism as a tool to smash the global economy into pieces.You are right in saying that capitalism is going to fail and it will be replaced by a communist dictatorship paradigm.I would recommend a good documentary called the capitalist conspiracy which was made in the 60s by G Edward Griffin.It seems to have eerily predicted how this whole thing was going to go.

By 2020 the elites hope to have their new world order in place.As regards to liberties we will have lost our voting rights with self-electing governments in power, freedom of speech will be stamped out, workers rights will be out the window and unions will be a thing of the past.There will be a cashless society using the RFID system to buy and sell so getting implanted will be a requirement.They are currently using 3 instruments to bring in the new world order....

ECONOMIC DOWNTURN
This was necessary to crash the economic system and lower peoples living standards in turn people will be desperate and will accept lower wages and less working rights.

TERRORISM
By keeping people in a state of fear you can keep taking their liberties away without question and create a more subservant society.People will accept a violation of their rights if its in the name of "fighting terrorism".Anyone for a virtual strip search? - why not!

ENVIROMENTALISM
Using this pretext to create a global governing system and global bank to collect "carbon taxes".Crippling taxation will close down the small businesses enabling only big corporations to survive.Anybody with a bit of financial stability will be raped by extortionate enviroment taxes and we will all be punished for our "carbon footprint".

thecommander

Truthrevolution wrote: »

The NWO elites have used capitalism as a tool to smash the global economy into pieces.You are right in saying that capitalism is going to fail and it will be replaced by a communist dictatorship paradigm.I would recommend a good documentary called the capitalist conspiracy which was made in the 60s by G Edward Griffin.It seems to have eerily predicted how this whole thing was going to go.

By 2020 the elites hope to have their new world order in place.As regards to liberties we will have lost our voting rights with self-electing governments in power, freedom of speech will be stamped out, workers rights will be out the window and unions will be a thing of the past.There will be a cashless society using the RFID system to buy and sell so getting implanted will be a requirement.They are currently using 3 instruments to bring in the new world order....

ECONOMIC DOWNTURN
This was necessary to crash the economic system and lower peoples living standards in turn people will be desperate and will accept lower wages and less working rights.

TERRORISM
By keeping people in a state of fear you can keep taking their liberties away without question and create a more subservant society.People will accept a violation of their rights if its in the name of "fighting terrorism".Anyone for a virtual strip search? - why not!

ENVIROMENTALISM
Using this pretext to create a global governing system and global bank to collect "carbon taxes".Crippling taxation will close down the small businesses enabling only big corporations to survive.Anybody with a bit of financial stability will be raped by extortionate enviroment taxes and we will all be punished for our "carbon footprint".

2020? They set a date for it? Cool.