Flashing in overtaking lane

Pimp Ninja

I was all for flashing the overtaking lane hoggers, until one night about 4 years ago coming in the N4.

Came to a line of about 6 or so cars on the left most lane, pulled to overtaking lane to pass them.
There was a car in the overtaking lane along side the car at the front of the convoy (if you like) doing the same speed as the cars in the left lane. It should also be noted that there was a decent distance between each car in the left lane.
As I overtook these cars in the left lane, I came behind (not too close) the car in the overtaking lane. I sat at their speed for about a minute, untill another car joined behind me in the overtaking lane. Then I flashed the headlights at the "lane hog"

They put on the brakes and pulled towards and then onto the grass verge on the central median.

Narrow miss later, Ive never flashed anyone since.

Töpher

Onkle wrote: »

If it's dark I'll throw my indicator on, when I first started doing this I was shocked to see that it worked.

Also a big fan of this. My reckoning was that it's also useful to let any traffic behind you know there's a car hogging the overtaking lane just in front, so getting pissed at me is a pointless exercise.

Or so I thought. About 2 weeks ago some lad in a Range Rover was behind me going mental when I was behind a car that wouldn't move in from the overtaking lane on the M50 (2 lane part), I'd stuck the inicator on when I saw the RR approaching from behind and gave the lad in front a flash or three. Range Rover decides he's had enough and barrells through on the driving lane, as he does this the clown in front of me finally decides he's utilised his quota of overtaking lane for the evening and pulls back in with no indication, very nearly taking out the Range Rover (and probably myself too, had they hit).

So now I take the bus. :pac:

Sleepy

If I'm in the outside lane, I'll pull in when I've finished over-taking what I intended to overtake. If you signal from a reasonable distance behind me and there's a gap I can safely pull into in the inside lane (of slower moving traffic), I'll pull in and let you go. Flash your headlights at me when there's no safe place for me to pull in or do it while tailgating me and I'll stay out in that lane way longer than I would have otherwise just to piss you off.

sesna

Martron wrote: »

are you crazy? when have you been blinded by a car coming from behind unless you were staring at your rearview mirror for longer than a second? if that is the case you were not looking at the road in the first place. and slamming on your brakes on a motorway is mental.

saftey precaution!!!!!!! i think its this attitude that cause accidents.

No I'm not crazy!!!! Im sorry to have alarmed you !!!
I have been blinded by a car that has been driving in close proximity to me and turned on their full beams.
I can assure you I was looking at the road, and was dazzled even after flicking rear view mirror up due to reflection of light from wing mirrors also. Light has a habit of dispersing and reflecting in all directions.

Perhaps you think slamming on my brakes is mental, but what if some poor wildlife animal, a rabbit perhaps, was crossing the motorway and I couldnt see it

colm_mcm

Jip

red menace wrote: »

Is it better than the guys who feels the need to pull in after overtaking every single car even if there is no-one trying to overtake them?

Eh, that's what your supposed to. Obviously not if you're in and out like a yo-yo if there's cars within feet of each other. Are you trying to say it's acceptable to driver on the outside lane if there's no cars on the road ?

OldmanMondeo

sesna wrote: »

I have noticed that the experts on use of the overtake lane strangely seem to have no regard for the law when it comes to the speed-limit.

If I am driving at 120kmp/h on a motorway slowly over-taking cars at 105kmph, I inevitably always get drivers flashing at me or tail-gating me to speed up further and break the speed-limit. I always pull in to the left once I have completed my over-taking and use the over-take lane properly.

Flashing at the driver in front for no good reason is not a good idea, as it can dazzle the driver. When I am dazzled and can not see where I am going I have no option but to slam on my brakes, as a safety precaution.

the first 2 pragraphs make perfect sense, however for the 3rd paragraph you should be taken off the roads forever.

Jip

Not really, it's not his job to enforce the speed limits. If a car wants to get by at speed in excess of the limit he should. And if he thinks he's doing exactly 120kph from looking at his speedo, in all likelihood he's doing less.

Viper_JB

I remember getting stuck behind two trucks, one involved in the longest overtaking maneuver in the world and the other determind to keep up with him both pretty much matching speed and blocking both lanes on the M7 bugs the hell out of me when you get HGV's over taking HGV's so they can drive at the exact same speed a few meters infront of the other truck. have to drop back like 100 meters or more so he can see you flashing and even at that at full tilt the truck will still take ages to get upto over taking speed.

Bull76

Alot of fools think they own the road and can and will drive where they want, regardless of the RoTR.
Some education is needed badly.
I've encountered the I'm in the overtaking lane screw you driver. Nothing in the driving lane and there in the over taking lane. Indicate and move over they still don't bother, flash and they might flash again and they do move over, only long enough for you to pass and then back out into the over taking lane, I'm back in the driving lane and away.
Had some plonker, big merc doing less than 100km/Per hour, pull out in to the over taking lane and stay there, had passed the other vehicle and decided it was nice out there. Flashed them and they put on there hazard's? all you had to do was move over, plenty of space and it was safe to do so. Then when i passed them and pulled back into the driving lane, full headlights on.
I know your a useless driver but blinding everyone who passes you isn't a good idea.
One of these days some one will be driven off the road because of there selfish actions.

CoDy1

sesna wrote: »

Perhaps you think slamming on my brakes is mental, but what if some poor wildlife animal, a rabbit perhaps, was crossing the motorway and I couldnt see it

So you value bugs bunny's life more than your own or the driver's behind you???

you have to be takin the piss at this stage...

Martron

sesna wrote: »

Perhaps you think slamming on my brakes is mental, but what if some poor wildlife animal, a rabbit perhaps, was crossing the motorway and I couldnt see it

ha ha ha very good. i was thinking you were serious for a moment. i would agree with colm mc on this

sesna

Jip wrote: »

Not really, it's not his job to enforce the speed limits. If a car wants to get by at speed in excess of the limit he should. And if he thinks he's doing exactly 120kph from looking at his speedo, in all likelihood he's doing less.

I have a digital speedo and a GPS system which I use to reference my true speed

Jip

A digital speedo is no more accurate than a analogue one. Doesn't matter either way, it's still not up to you to dictate what speed other drivers drive at.

sesna

Martron wrote: »

ha ha ha very good. i was thinking you were serious for a moment. i would agree with colm mc on this

The point being any obstruction on the road ahead. Perhaps a closed motorway lane, damage to the road, a piece of debris would be more palatable to you. It is wreckless to drive without full visual awareness of the road ahead.

JohnGone

I wouldn't usually partake in these threads, but I feel strongly about this.

Last year, one morning our toddler started getting sick & dizzy, so we had to rush her to hospital (Newbridge to Tallaght) up the N7 on Wed morning at rush-hour.

I will admit that I was speeding up the road, and on a couple of occasions, had to flash vehicles to move over - thankfully I didn't meet any lane hoggers - having my hazards on as well may have highlighted an emergency. My wife was in the backseat trying to keep our baby awake, as any parent knows, you cannot let them sleep in the event of an emergency.

Thankfully we got there in time, and after having her checked out, she came home the next day - very slowly!
The overtaking lane is for overtaking , not parking in. You just don't know if there is a real emergency behind you

sesna

Jip wrote: »

A digital speedo is no more accurate than a analogue one. Doesn't matter either way, it's still not up to you to dictate what speed other drivers drive at.

If you read my original post you would see I am not enforcing the law, merely completing a legal overtake manouver before moving back to the travelling lane

Jip

So you didn't comment then on drivers exceeding the limit ?

red menace

I was commenting onm the guys, who do this like a you, pull into a gap of ~ 8 to 10 carlengths and then overtake again have seen it done in smaller spaces as well

CoDy1

sesna wrote: »

The point being any obstruction on the road ahead. Perhaps a closed motorway lane, damage to the road, a piece of debris would be more palatable to you. It is wreckless to drive without full visual awareness of the road ahead.

Its a flash of a high beam not a flippin lighthouse behind you. The flash of light would take less time than it would for you to even process and hit the break. Slamming on the breaks in the fast lane knowing that there is a car travelling at high speed behind you is SUICIDAL.

Martron

sesna wrote: »

The point being any obstruction on the road ahead. Perhaps a closed motorway lane, damage to the road, a piece of debris would be more palatable to you. It is wreckless to drive without full visual awareness of the road ahead.

1. closed motorway lane = advanced warning , ipv ( impact protection vehicle) tapered cones.

2. damage to the road = unless its a crater you will never see it until you are on top of it. slamming on your brakes in that case will couse more damage than just rolling over it.

3. debris = again you wont see it at night anyway until you are on top of it.

slamming on your brakes will cause more of an accident than you hitting a pothole or a plastic bag.

and for your own futre reference........ if there is a small animal on the road...... its their tough.

we'llallhavetea_old

sometimes i wish real life was like mario kart and i could lob stuff at the idiots infront.

bazzachazza

My opinion on this matter hasn't changed from the first 50 times this subject has been posted here on boards and it won't.:rolleyes:

Berty

Wow 5 pages. This topic is nearly as entertaining as a fog light thread.

I thought the steam was let out of the OP in the first page of the thread and thought the thread was done to death by the 3rd page.

Yet.....................

red menace

Berty wrote: »

Wow 5 pages. This topic is nearly as entertaining as a fog light thread.

I thought the steam was let out of the OP in the first page of the thread and thought the thread was done to death by the 3rd page.

Yet.....................

you should set your preferences to 40 posts per page.
Slims down to a convenient 2 pages

Dades

corriganalan wrote: »

In the fast lane - car sitting in front of you doing 80k with nothing in the slow lane

What were you overtaking if there was nothing in the slow lane?

Gary ITR

Sweet Jesus. This has been done to death, hovering over the lock button here

JimmyCrackCorn

Ill get my tits out at any occasion.:D


@Onkle
Did that get the lock