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George Lee on Frontline

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    #62
    Gretchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭Gretchy


    Wonder how this looks at European and Multinational level. The second largest party in the country unable to retain a man of George Lee's potential. Irish politics!!!!


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    #63
    Greentopia
    Registered Users Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    I think George Lee is too honest and has too much integrity for Irish politics, nothing to do with him leaving because he didn't get his own way.
    He simply wasn't prepared to play the cosy game of backslapping and shmoozing that's called for to get on in politics here.
    He was too idealistic and honest for his own good.


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    #64
    Mental Mickey
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    Gretchy wrote: »
    Wonder how this looks at European and Multinational level. The second largest party in the country unable to retain a man of George Lee's potential. Irish politics!!!!


    It's not that they were unable to retain him, he let himself down.


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    #65
    InReality
    Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    anybody else spot the young FF candiate as soon as he opened his mouth ?
    then confirmed by Kenny :)

    Leo is rocking.


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    #66
    JonathanAnon
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    Did anyone see that opportunist pr1ck Shay Brennan on the news today saying "I'm not a quitter. I'll be running the next time".. Last thing we need is a wimp like him in for the career and the pension, just cos his father was there before him.


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    #67
    Cabra
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Cabra


    Leo being quite reasonable - that's a surprise!


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    #68
    yoshytoshy
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    Red_Marauder wrote: »

    And what about the fact that policy makers in FG who made formal submissions to him, had their requests ignored?

    The fact is, George Lee wanted to be parachuted directly into a Finance Ministry or Enterprise, his biggest issue is probably that there was no general election before his May watershed with RTE.

    Fine gael were happy to take on mr.popular for their own gains ,thats clear now.
    I wanted to vote for fine gael ,because I want a new government. But who else is being ignored in fine gael and within other parties in irish politics.

    It's a bad day for irish politics ,but some good will come of it.


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    #69
    Mr.Micro
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    Greentopia wrote: »
    I think George Lee is too honest and has too much integrity for Irish politics, nothing to do with him leaving because he didn't get his own way.
    He simply wasn't prepared to play the cosy game of backslapping and shmoozing that's called for to get on in politics here.
    He was too idealistic and honest for his own good.

    Probably a lot of truth there. he found out the TD s do very little except collect their expenses and salaries.


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    #70
    gandalf
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    Leo Varadkar probably the best guy that FG could have put on tonight and he has done a good job with a poisoned chalice.


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    #71
    Nicki123
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    What's Leo a doctor of?


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    #72
    Jip
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    Greentopia wrote: »
    I think George Lee is too honest and has too much integrity for Irish politics, nothing to do with him leaving because he didn't get his own way.
    He simply wasn't prepared to play the cosy game of backslapping and shmoozing that's called for to get on in politics here.
    He was too idealistic and honest for his own good.

    I don't think you could be further from the truth. He had no idea of the back room slog involved and went in feet first.


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    #73
    Red_Marauder
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    Nicki123 wrote: »
    What's Leo a doctor of?
    medicine


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    #74
    DogmaticLefty
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    In 48 hours, the name "George Lee" will be dead and buried.


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    #75
    JonathanAnon
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    Nicki123 wrote: »
    What's Leo a doctor of?

    He's a GP.

    Have to say, I think he's one of the most impressive people we have in the Dáil.


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    #76
    gandalf
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Probably a lot of truth there. he found out the TD s do very little except collect their expenses and salaries.

    No I do think they do a lot, but most of it is nothing to do with their jobs. Our TD's are just glorified County Councillors pandering to parish pump politics. Until that's addressed nothing will change.


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    #77
    Cabra
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Cabra


    I think George Lee didnt understand how political parties work - once elected, the spotlight was off and he was expected to get in there and do the work like every other backbencher - the glitz and the glamour was over and he couldnt hack it


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    #78
    thegen
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    Leo loses it at the end agreeing there is a problem with leadership. Bad decision to parachute a celeb in to win a seat.


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    #79
    Gretchy
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    Sorry Mickey
    Dont agree with you there.
    Picture the scenario. Your local GAA/Rugby/Whatever club is been run into the ground by the committee. You have a few lads on the sideline that have been trying to get a grasp on things but just cant convince people to give them the chance. Along comes a guy whom the public and members have a vibe about, but because he is an outsider and not of the "local" stock he is ignored by the current set-up.
    Did this happen here!!


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    #80
    shanehillview
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    When will George Lee release his book?


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    #81
    Seth Brundle
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    deadtiger wrote: »
    Jesus Ivan Yates is the leader that Fine Gael needs badly. Its a shame he stood down from them. He'd make a great Taoiseach imho.
    His ability to be in two places at once would be helpful when Taoiseach!
    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    Did anyone see that opportunist pr1ck Shay Brennan on the news today saying "I'm not a quitter. I'll be running the next time".. Last thing we need is a wimp like him in for the career and the pension, just cos his father was there before him.
    The nepotism card works for the rest of the country so why not in DS?


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    #82
    west101
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    Cabra wrote: »
    I think George Lee didnt understand how political parties work - once elected, the spotlight was off and he was expected to get in there and do the work like every other backbencher - the glitz and the glamour was over and he couldnt hack it

    Thats the point, there not working


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    #83
    InReality
    Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    Gretchy wrote: »
    Sorry Mickey
    Dont agree with you there.
    Picture the scenario. Your local GAA/Rugby/Whatever club is been run into the ground by the committee. You have a few lads on the sideline that have been trying to get a grasp on things but just cant convince people to give them the chance. Along comes a guy whom the public and members have a vibe about, but because he is an outsider and not of the "local" stock he is ignored by the current set-up.
    Did this happen here!!

    Probably part of it. But the outsider needs to bring people along with him.


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    #84
    Nicki123
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    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    He's a GP.

    Have to say, I think he's one of the most impressive people we have in the Dáil.


    Yeah I have to say that he impresses me. But will he have to serve his time at the coalface before he gets a shot at the top job or will FG realise that the public want a young, dynamic alternative to the FF'ers and put ppl like this into the driving seat of the party....


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    #85
    Cabra
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Cabra


    George Lee got his chance - he confirmed himself that he was promised nothing - the life of a backbencher is not a pretty one and he clearly never expected to have to do the work everyone else has to do to get their issues on the agenda - methinks he made the classic mistake of believing his own propaganda!


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    #86
    Red_Marauder
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    Nicki123 wrote: »
    Yeah I have to say that he impresses me. But will he have to serve his time at the coalface before he gets a shot at the top job or will FG realise that the public want a young, dynamic alternative to the FF'ers and put ppl like this into the driving seat of the party....
    What do you mean? He's enterprise spokesman, he has already worked his way up. I think it's a bit early to tout him as leader tbh. The man is 30


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    #87
    Dotsie~tmp
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    Leos comment about the two staffers facing the dole :D . Truely the best knife of the day. On the whole i think it has reflected poorly on George.


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    #88
    peasant
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    thetonynator wrote: »
    George Lee is like a spoilt child . . .
    No one will ever take him seriously again!!!

    Personally, after what he did today and said just now, I take him more seriously than I ever did before


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    #89
    Cabra
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Cabra


    Anyway George will be back in RTE by the end of the month - I'm sure they have a vacancy in children's programming - or he could join Charlie Bird on the woe is me nobody loves me wagon!


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    #90
    Dotsie~tmp
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    shanehillview wrote: »
    When will George Lee release his book?


    Whats he gonna write about? The way he hid in his office For months talking to nobody.


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    #91
    Gretchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭Gretchy


    Agree
    But lets face it. The level of education that GL brought to this party outshone the majority he joined there. All our TDs are mere teachers, auctioneers, solicitors and god knows what else.Oh I see the senior civil servants who negotiated there cuts recently run this country. Protect what is yours people. Protect I say!!!


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