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Things you hated in the games
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09-02-2010 12:11am#1So I figured a thread to vent the frustration that can sometimes be felt while playing the games could be quite therapeutic for us all
I'll get the ball rolling.
I hate tag-teaming with Barry/Tyson/(Bob as I know him) in Platinum. That kid just can't duel for his life, his monsters always get completely destroyed and here's me left 2 on 1. Kid needs to take the finger out or just p!ss off and go play with his bloody weedle!0
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i love the games but cant stand the fact nintendo will not make a decent 3d game.
Well, the D/P/Pt/HG/SS engine is fully 3D. Sure it's on the DS, but on the few occasions where the camera changes, or there are in-game "cutscenes" you can really see it at work.You can catch an abra with an Ultra Ball with out weakening it.
Oh boy, so not true.
Based on the catch rate formula, when the wild Pokémon is at full health, the current value of a is catch rate over 3. For an Abra, that means at full health his a is 200/3. An Ultra Ball only doubles that value at it's ball modifier is 2x, making that 400/3, so the capture is still not guaranteed (only about a half chance). To absolutely guarantee it, you need to use a ball with a 4x multiplier, so a Quick Ball in the first 5 turns, Dusk Ball at night, Level Ball while at least double it's level, or a Fast Ball will result in a guaranteed capture, as 800/3 is more than 255
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Well, the D/P/Pt/HG/SS engine is fully 3D. Sure it's on the DS, but on the few occasions where the camera changes, or there are in-game "cutscenes" you can really see it at work.
Oh boy, so not true.
Based on the catch rate formula, when the wild Pokémon is at full health, the current value of a is catch rate over 3. For an Abra, that means at full health his a is 200/3. An Ultra Ball only doubles that value at it's ball modifier is 2x, making that 400/3, so the capture is still not guaranteed (only about a half chance). To absolutely guarantee it, you need to use a ball with a 4x multiplier, so a Quick Ball in the first 5 turns, Dusk Ball at night, Level Ball while at least double it's level, or a Fast Ball will result in a guaranteed capture, as 800/3 is more than 255
Every game I've played any of the games, to catch Abra that's how I've done it and it has worked perfectly every time.
200/3 would mean you have 200 chances in 3 of catching the Pokémon which is extremely high, 3/200 would be extremely low.
With the ultra ball, that raising to 400/3 just makes it easier.
Try it, next time you see one, usually around lvl5-11 just throw an Ultra Ball.
In my experience, you can catch them easily.
Finding them seems to be harder.0 -
200/3 would mean you have 200 chances in 3 of catching the Pokémon which is extremely high, 3/200 would be extremely low.
With the ultra ball, that raising to 400/3 just makes it easier.
I think you've mis-read. To succeed in catching a Pokémon the number that results from the catch rate formula has be greater than or equal to 255. Otherwise it's down to a random number generator.
At full health, the formula is simplified to: catch rate X ball X status / 3
Even with an Ultra, that's only: 200 X 2 X 1 / 3 = 133.33.
While I don't usually work out the other formula, here goes. At 133.33, the random number generator, which generates four random numbers between 0 and 65535, has to generate four numbers between 0 and 55727. Which gives you, say about an 85% a 52% chance. (EDIT: 85% chance for one of the four to be under, so put it to the power of four...)
Sure it's not half, but it's also not guaranteed - just very bloody likely.
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Jees, ye're all very good at the pokématics!
I never needed a calculator to play pokémon
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Nothing is more annoying than trying to catch Pokémon in the safari zone...
TRAINER used SAFARI BALL...
Wild RHYHORN fled...
AAAAHHHHHH!0 -
I think you've mis-read. To succeed in catching a Pokémon the number that results from the catch rate formula has be greater than or equal to 255. Otherwise it's down to a random number generator.
At full health, the formula is simplified to: catch rate X ball X status / 3
Even with an Ultra, that's only: 200 X 2 X 1 / 3 = 133.33.
While I don't usually work out the other formula, here goes. At 133.33, the random number generator, which generates four random numbers between 0 and 65535, has to generate four numbers between 0 and 55727. Which gives you, say about an 85% a 52% chance. (EDIT: 85% chance for one of the four to be under, so put it to the power of four...)
Sure it's not half, but it's also not guaranteed - just very bloody likely.
Ah, I see how you're doing it alright.
So in the simplest terms possible: I've been very lucky when it comes to catching Abra. 0 -
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Then there's moves with less than 100% accuracy. 70% you say? Sounds like it'd be worth the risk. Then you find it actually only lands 20% of the time.
Reminds me of my battle with Lance. His Dragonite's thunder only has 70%? Yea, hits all the time, yet I miss half the time with a 95% Ice Fang
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The necessity to have to surf across a huge expanse of water that had nothing but bloody tentacools!
In the original games, being told that paralysis will let you catch the legendary birds. Paralyzing them, then seeing that they can still dodge your ball
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