EPL Team of the Decade- CM's

Spiritoftheseventies

JPA wrote: »

Vieira was a better CM than Lampard has ever been. I'm not knocking Lampard but he has never been the dominating player Vieira was.

Yes but Lampard has been ever present in that Chelsea team throughout the decade. Not blaming Vieira for leaving but can we vote for a guy who wasnt in premiership for half of the period we are talking about.

JPA

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Yes but Lampard has been ever present in that Chelsea team throughout the decade. Not blaming Vieira for leaving but can we vote for a guy who wasnt in premiership for half of the period we are talking about.

You seem to think so as you have Keane in the poll.

RandolphEsq

Scholes and Gerrard, though Lampard came very close

Frisbee

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Yes but Lampard has been ever present in that Chelsea team throughout the decade. Not blaming Vieira for leaving but can we vote for a guy who wasnt in premiership for half of the period we are talking about.

Such as the likes of Evra, Lennon, Clichy, A Young, Sagna, Ronaldo and Fabregas?

All of whom you included?

Spiritoftheseventies

JPA wrote: »

You seem to think so as you have Keane in the poll.

Yes but Keane made it into Andy Grays team which is why I left him in. If mod wants to go through the hassle of resetting poll he can do so but again I just dont see it making it that big a difference to final result. And to be fair there was more of a consultative process here then with EPL team of the year where players who played only half a term (like Ronaldo) got into team. Anyway posters start thinking about your forwards. Going up tomorrow morning.

JPA

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Yes but Keane made it into Andy Grays team which is why I left him in. If mod wants to go through the hassle of resetting poll he can do so but again I just dont see it making it that big a difference to final result.

Firstly what has Andy Gray got to do with anything?
Secondly by saying ah sure it'll make no difference and having so few choices you are setting the poll to your own preferences, rather then what the posters are actually saying to you.

L'prof

Xavi6 wrote: »

It's ok, I'll be in good company today with the Arsenal and Chelsea fans seeing as there's somehow no Vieira or Essien.

And yet Keane is in there!!!!

For crying out loud, what is the point in leaving out players who were in there prime in the last decade and including Keane, who clearly wasn't!

These polls were a good idea but, I have to say your selections have been extremely questionble!

Here's links to 2 team of the decade articles in which Vieira was picked!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/12/ever_had_a_hospital_pass.html

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/17/1387845/premier-league-team-of-the-decade-2000-2010

Spiritoftheseventies

jasonorr wrote: »

And yet Keane is in there!!!!

For crying out loud, what is the point in leaving out players who were in there prime in the last decade and including Keane, who clearly wasn't!

These polls were a good idea but, I have to say your selections have been extremely questionble!

Here's links to 2 team of the decade articles in which Vieira was picked!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/12/ever_had_a_hospital_pass.html

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/17/1387845/premier-league-team-of-the-decade-2000-2010

jaysus lads. Will we go through every single poll to find gaps in it. Team of the year was full of flaws IMO as we had players being included when they left during the summer. Vierra can start on the bench.

L'prof

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

jaysus lads. Will we go through ever single poll to find gaps in it. Team of the year was full of flaws IMO as we had players being included when they left during the summer. Vierra can start on the bench.

If you keep leaving players out, then yes!

Vieira on the bench? No, I reckon he'd be getting the majority of Scholes' votes!

SlickRic

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

jaysus lads. Will we go through every single poll to find gaps in it. Team of the year was full of flaws IMO as we had players being included when they left during the summer. Vierra can start on the bench.

ha.

people only keep going because you keep trying to defend the poll.

the more you do that, the more people will ridicule it.

yes, a mod could adjust it. but it's probably kind of late now unfortunately.

leninbenjamin

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Will we go through every single poll to find gaps in it.

Surely that's the point? To debate the best team of the decade, no? Or are we to just meekly accept whatever drivel the likes of Andy Gray try to shovel down our throats and leave it at that?

thorbarry

Maybe a good way to pick the nominees would be to go through the EPL team of the year for the last 10 years, and put every CM mentioned in it on the nominations list. It'd be better than someone just picking names off the top of their head, with little to no research done

ShiverinEskimo

Jazzy

where in ****ting crikey is viera and essien?

stoopid poll is stoopid



edit - lock & forget this thread. start again tomorow

CHD

So much fail. So much fail.

Frisbee

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Yes but Keane made it into Andy Grays team which is why I left him in.

Best laugh I've had all day.

everdead.ie

I put Keane down and am going to pretend he's essien :P
and Lampard gets my second

Necronomicon

For the last poll I think it'd be far more successful if the thread was open (without a poll) for people to make nominations, have a bit of debate about who deserves to get on. Then after a page or two of posts a mod edits the thread to add a poll that has the most frequent nominations. There's a flaw in one person picking the nominations, there will always be a few omissions.

Spiritoftheseventies

Scholesie making a late run in the votes. Yes if it so happens Keane edges out Gerrard for second spot start from scratch

Jazzy

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Scholesie making a late run in the votes. Yes if it so happens Keane edges out Gerrard for second spot start from scratch

just close it now and start again. this one is crap

Spiritoftheseventies

Jazzy wrote: »

just close it now and start again. this one is crap

jazzy you have to be the narciest poster of all time. A poster without a cause. Get a grip will ya

IvySlayer

Oh man this is tough. Keane and Gerrard.

Although it could've easily been Lampard/Fab.

Jazzy

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

jazzy you have to be the narciest poster of all time. A poster without a cause. Get a grip will ya

im fukin right though. you've made a sh1t poll and it wouldnt surprise me if those obvious exceptions were left out just so you can see gerrard on the team because if gerrard doesnt get there, no liverpool players will.

Essien & Viera have been crucial to the success of two teams. in fact, when viera left, arsenal stopped winning trophies... thats how important he was.


WHY ISNT HE THERE BAYVIEWCLOSE? answer me that and ill stop taking the piss out of your crappy poll

Spiritoftheseventies

Jazzy wrote: »

im fukin right though. you've made a sh1t poll and it wouldnt surprise me if those obvious exceptions were left out just so you can see gerrard on the team because if gerrard doesnt get there, no liverpool players will.

Essien & Viera have been crucial to the success of two teams. in fact, when viera left, arsenal stopped winning trophies... thats how important he was.


WHY ISNT HE THERE BAYVIEWCLOSE? answer me that and ill stop taking the piss out of your crappy poll

Why isnt he there. Ask Wenger that. Not disputing his talent but again he was only there five years. The bigger issue is why Fabregas and Lampard are not featuring more prominently here.

oconnon9

Keane - dominated the prem for 10 years!! a travesty if he isn't in it!!

Other spot would be Gerrard or Fabregas

Jazzy

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Why isnt he there. Ask Wenger that. Not disputing his talent but again he was only there five years. The bigger issue is why Fabregas and Lampard are not featuring more prominently here.

fabregas has been in the PL for f**k all as well. p1ss poor excuse. did andy gray not mention viera or something? i think im right with the gerrard thing and your crap excuse has only justified that.
and yes it is a crap excuse.. either that or your opinions on football are worth f**k all. up to you which (heres a little winky for you too )


close your retarded poll and start another tomorow with the correct players in it... otherwise, the whole thing will be a farce wont it?

Mitch Connor

oconnon9 wrote: »

Keane - dominated the prem for 10 years!! a travesty if he isn't in it!!

Other spot would be Gerrard or Fabregas

his best years, imo, were 95 on to 2003. with 9 being the peak i feel. You could argue he dominated for 10 years, but not for the last 10 years and not for much of those years either imo.

Spiritoftheseventies

okay lads you can vote if you want another poll. For those complaining about the lack of democracy here.

Mitch Connor

Jazzy wrote: »

fabregas has been in the PL for f**k all as well. p1ss poor excuse. did andy gray not mention viera or something? i think im right with the gerrard thing and your crap excuse has only justified that.
and yes it is a crap excuse.. either that or your opinions on football are worth f**k all. up to you which (heres a little winky for you too )


close your retarded poll and start another tomorow with the correct players in it... otherwise, the whole thing will be a farce wont it?

Hasn't Fabregas been in the Prem for 6 years, and been a class talent for all of that. I would say for the last 2 and a half seasons he has been right up there - arguable as the best in the league. Before that he was freaking good too.

builttospill

This poll is ridiculous. Of those choices it has to be Lampard. He has been consistently brilliant for Chelsea since 2002. That's 8 years. Gerrard has been explosive on many occasions but drifts in and out of games far too much. He's nowhere near as consistent. Then you have Fabregas there! WTF??? He's only been lighting up the premiership for the last few years, not a decade. Keane is more of a 90's star and Scholes wasn't firing on all cylinders in the last half of the decade.

I think with this poll most people are just picking the player that plays for the team they support. Therefore it's impossible to conduct a fair poll seeing as most people support either Liverpool or United. Most people hate Chelsea and Frank Lampard and this is why he hasn't got more votes. I'm not a Chelsea fan either btw.

Spiritoftheseventies

builttospill wrote: »

This poll is ridiculous. Of those choices it has to be Lampard. He has been consistently brilliant for Chelsea since 2002. That's 8 years. Gerrard has been explosive on many occasions but drifts in and out of games far too much. He's nowhere near as consistent. Then you have Fabregas there! WTF??? He's only been lighting up the premiership for the last few years, not a decade. Keane is more of a 90's star and Scholes wasn't firing on all cylinders in the last half of the decade.

I think with this poll most people are just picking the player that plays for the team they support. Therefore it's impossible to conduct a fair poll seeing as most people support either Liverpool or United. Most people hate Chelsea and Frank Lampard and this is why he hasn't got more votes. I'm not a Chelsea fan either btw.

Well im not too fond of chelsea either but voted for Lampard.

Eire-Dearg

Polls are too much for this guy, I think it's time to leave it to the experts.

L'prof

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Polls are too much for this guy, I think it's time to leave it to the experts.

You gonna do a proper one?

Eire-Dearg

jasonorr wrote: »

You gonna do a proper one?

He can finish what he started. Anyways, I didn't say I was an expert.

Jazzy

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Hasn't Fabregas been in the Prem for 6 years, and been a class talent for all of that. I would say for the last 2 and a half seasons he has been right up there - arguable as the best in the league. Before that he was freaking good too.

yeah of course, im not disputing that. but the impression i was getting was that viera was in it for f**k all so couldnt be counted, which is a load of bullsh1t. fabregas has had what, a year more then him? this poll just reminds me of Rob Schneider... DURP!


and id be 100% confident that this particular part of the poll has been rigged by the creator in a very vain effort to get a liverpool player on the team. he'll deny it, but the smart people will know WINKYEYESMILEY DURRR!

Spiritoftheseventies

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

He can finish what he started. Anyways, I didn't say I was an expert.

I gave mod options ages of go of putting in Vieira and anyone else. Its a pain Poll cant be amended. Would cut out an awful lot of grief.

Headshot

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I gave mod options ages of go of putting in Vierra and anyone else. Its a pain Poll cant be amended. Would cut out an awful lot of grief.

Eire-Dearg

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I gave mod options ages of go of putting in Vierra and anyone else. Its a pain Poll cant be amended. Would cut out an awful lot of grief.

Usually a bit of research before you post the poll wouldn't go astray.

Spiritoftheseventies

Jazzy wrote: »

yeah of course, im not disputing that. but the impression i was getting was that viera was in it for f**k all so couldnt be counted, which is a load of bullsh1t. fabregas has had what, a year more then him? this poll just reminds me of Rob Schneider... DURP!


and id be 100% confident that this particular part of the poll has been rigged by the creator in a very vain effort to get a liverpool player on the team. he'll deny it, but the smart people will know WINKYEYESMILEY DURRR!

How can i rig vote. Gerrard got into two polls as best midfielder with Vieira included. Thats just being stupid. No one is denying Gerrards class here. Take a look at the voting. Your worst moment ever.

Bubs101

Headshot wrote: »

Scholes is one of the finest Cm's to grace the PL. Lampard is a great player but not in the same league of scholes in his hay days

Lampard came 2nd in the European footballer of the year poll one year I think which is far better than any of Scholes' haydays

builttospill

Bubs101 wrote: »

Lampard came 2nd in the European footballer of the year poll one year I think which is far better than any of Scholes' haydays

He actually came 2nd in the world player of the year. It's pretty funny how a lot of people overlook him.

Edit: And you are right, he did come 2nd in the European player of the year award as well.

builttospill

Headshot wrote: »

Scholes is one of the finest Cm's to grace the PL. Lampard is a great player but not in the same league of scholes in his hay days

Don't get me wrong, I think Scholes should be up there as well but he was more dominant in the late 90's-early 00's period. Lampard was dominant throughout the whole decade. That's why I voted for him.

Spiritoftheseventies

looking like an all red midfield the way things are going anyway. Still a good way to go unless Jazzy puts in an injunction beforehand.

TheSpecialOne

Paddy V how he isn't even in the poll is a joke...and its ridiculous how united won't vote gerrard/Lampard and vice versa for Pool fans regarding Keane/Scholes...My own Votes Would be Vieira and Gerrard.

aidan24326

PHB wrote: »

In this decade? Scholes and Gerrard I'd say. With Lampard tight behind. However, Essien has done as much as Keane in this decade imo

Fixed.

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Essien and Gerrard easily.

Let Gerrard do what he does best and Essien will clean up any holes left by him.

Just pick the two best full stop, whether they would work as a combination in reality is irrelevant.



I went with Gerrard and Lampard as the two who made the biggest impact in this decade. For me Lampard absolutely has to be there, he has been consistently outstanding for Chelsea for 7 or 8 years now, scoring 20 goals per season from midfield. He even went 3 seasons in a row without missing a single premier league game, which is unheard of nowadays. Gerrard at his best carried Liverpool through games and they'd be in a much worse position the last few years without him.

Keane in his heyday would have topped the poll by a mile but the nineties was probably more his decade.

But for consistent excellence through this decade it has to be Lampard. (and I'm not a Chelsea fan)

Roy Keane only played half the decade

Jazzy

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

How can i rig vote. Gerrard got into two polls as best midfielder with Vieira included. Thats just being stupid. No one is denying Gerrards class here. Take a look at the voting. Your worst moment ever.

jesus your slow

Mitch Connor

TheSpecialOne wrote: »

Paddy V how he isn't even in the poll is a joke...and its ridiculous how united won't vote gerrard/Lampard and vice versa for Pool fans regarding Keane/Scholes...My own Votes Would be Vieira and Gerrard.

i voted Gerrard, i'm sure you'll find other United fans voted for himself or Lampard too.

My votes went to Scholes and Gerrard.

ShiverinEskimo

I'm a united fan and would vote scholes and Vieira.

Much as it pains me to say, Arsenal's unbeaten league campaign was the finest league campaign I've witnessed as a football fan and he was at the heart of it.

Saying that though this poll is a total farce from the word go so I couldn't give a bollox what the outcome is.

SlickRic

and mine went to Scholes and Gerrard.

although the argument for Lampard a few posts up is excellent.