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Being over the legal legal limit.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    dclane wrote: »
    I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

    http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp


    irrespective of legal alcohol limits, donegal's roads are more dangerous than beirut's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭I_am_Jebus


    dclane wrote: »
    I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

    http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

    Is being over the "legal legal" limit different to being over just the legal limit.

    I am confused about this two tier legal limit system that has been set up. Can you provide more detail? :cool::P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    dclane wrote: »
    I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

    http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

    Depends on body weight doesn't it?

    Four times the legal limit though I'd guess is somewhere between 8 and 10 pints for a man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭RoadKillTs


    Fair play to the judge! Fecking foreigners coming over here drink driving!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    I'll hazard a guess and say one bottle of fermented swan juice.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,071 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    genericguy wrote: »
    irrespective of legal alcohol limits, donegal's roads are more dangerous than beirut's.

    That's why they get tanked up before they get in their cars, so's they can alleviate the stress of driving in such a dangerous place.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    That's why they get tanked up before they get in their cars, so's they can alleviate the stress of driving in such a dangerous place.

    How about just being there?
    For drink driving Michalkiawicz was sentenced to four months in jail and disqualified from driving for 15 years. He was also sentenced to four consequetive months in prison and disqualifed from driving for the same period of time for driving with no insurance

    IF the guy was disqulaified from driving in the first place... which i'd assume meant he no longer had a lisence to drive in this country... how in the heck was he meant to get insurance?

    - Drav!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    Yes We've pot holes as big as craters over here you'd have to be locked sure


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,404 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    dclane wrote: »
    I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?
    Nearly 4x80mg/100ml ~= 300mg/100ml

    The scale is essentially exponential. Thats enough to kill some people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content
    Unless a person has developed a high tolerance for alcohol, a BAC rating of 0.20% represents very serious intoxication, and 0.35%–0.40% represents potentially fatal alcohol poisoning.[1] 0.40% is the accepted LD50, the dose that is lethal for 50% of adult humans.

    For drink driving Michalkiawicz was sentenced to four months in jail and disqualified from driving for 15 years. He was also sentenced to four consequetive months in prison and disqualifed from driving for the same period of time for driving with no insurance

    http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=consequetive&word2=consecutive+


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    dclane wrote: »
    I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

    http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

    I'd assume it means legal limit x 5.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Bloody foreigners. Coming over here driving our drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    dclane wrote: »
    I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

    http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

    Two pints will put you just over the limit. This individual had at least ten pints over the course of a few hours, then decided to drive

    With a blood alcohol level of 320mg/dL he was almost at the fatal dosage. He would have been suffering from Stage 1 anaesthesia, memory lapse and labile mood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I thought they lowered the legal limit and there is a zero tolerance to driving with any alcohol in your system. My understanding is that you can have about a glass of beer or one short measure of spirits?

    Anyone know the proper legal limit? Anyway, best practice is to never drink and drive. Not even a pint. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.
    Won't someone think of the children?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    Two pints will put you just over the limit. This individual had at least ten pints over the course of a few hours, then decided to drive

    With a blood alcohol level of 400mg/dL he was almost at the fatal dosage

    Ive an acquaintance who likes his swalloy. Hes in his early 20s. He was done for drink for drink driving last summer. He was declared three times over the legal limit, yet he claims he had at least 8 pints and a heap of shorts on top of that. Ive been out with him before, so Id be inclined to believe him.

    They left him in the cells for an hour, then let him go after processing the charge sheet. They gave him back the car keys along with the rest of his belongings.:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,404 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.
    I've not seen those stats, but yes, quite a few pedestrians are killed in situations involving alcohol and other drugs, whether as a driver, passenger, pedestrian or through violence or poisoning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Victor wrote: »
    I've not seen those stats, but yes, quite a few pedestrians are killed in situations involving alcohol and other drugs, whether as a driver, passenger, pedestrian or through violence or poisoning.

    Stats were quoted in freakonomics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.
    Won't someone think of the children?

    That's not the type of mentality we need though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,402 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Ive an acquaintance who likes his swalloy. Hes in his early 20s. He was done for drink for drink driving last summer. He was declared three times over the legal limit, yet he claims he had at least 8 pints and a heap of shorts on top of that. Ive been out with him before, so Id be inclined to believe him.

    They left him in the cells for an hour, then let him go after processing the charge sheet. They gave him back the car keys along with the rest of his belongings.:eek:

    And how is Mr Halvey these days...? Long time no hear!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    I heard that 2 out of 10 accidents are caused by drink drivers

    That proves that you're 8 times more likely to have a crash if you haven't had a drink so be safe guys, drink up


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    what would likely outcome of this be, over de limit and hitting two cars,,
    what would that guy expect to get?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    what would likely outcome of this be, over de limit and hitting two cars,,
    what would that guy expect to get?

    a job driving Niall Quinn?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.
    Won't someone think of the children?

    Yes, but you won't injure or kill anyone else drink walking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    Yes, but you won't injure or kill anyone else drink walking.

    you will if you walk out in front of a bus, the bus driver swerves to avoid you, bus hits a wall, fuel goes everywhere, you throw your cigarette away, bus goes up in a fireball.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    you will if you walk out in front of a bus, the bus driver swerves to avoid you, bus hits a wall, fuel goes everywhere, you throw your cigarette away, bus goes up in a fireball.

    You don't have to be drunk to do that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    "It's different , Up here in Donegal"

    - I blame Bord Failté.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,918 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

    But then there was that 7 month suspended sentence vehicle manslaughter, while drunk.

    Is the justice system run by an Enchanted 8-Ball?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Overheal wrote: »
    In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

    But then there was that 7 month suspended sentence vehicle manslaughter, while drunk.

    Is the justice system run by an Enchanted 8-Ball?

    It's not "run" so much as it's made up as they go along.

    It's a well known fact that our justice system is a load of balls.

    Then again, we did have a huge problem with drink driving and not such a problem with murder/rape.

    25 years for carrying some weed? Your own system is more fcuked up imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,402 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Overheal wrote: »
    In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

    But then there was that 7 month suspended sentence vehicle manslaughter, while drunk.

    Is the justice system run by an Enchanted 8-Ball?

    When did a drunk driver get fifteen years? Was that in the States?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    I got knocked down two years ago by a lad 4 times over the legal limit and all the cu*t got was a 5 year driving ban and a fine, he hit 3 people and got a slap on the wrist!

    Fair play to the judge, about time the law was enforced properly.


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