Arsenal -v- Liverpool, 19.45 SS2

Spiritoftheseventies

I am bringing in Henry because it was an equally blatant handball. Not making excuses for liverpool. We were awful tonight. But that decision at the end was an outrage. Refs seem to think they are immune now from making bad decisions. Happening way too often IMO.

Minstrel27

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

You don't miss much do you :rolleyes:?

You obviously do. Henry is a Barcelona player.

OPENROAD

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I am bringing in Henry because it was an equally blatant handball. Not making excuses for liverpool. We were awful tonight. But that decision at the end was an outrage. Refs seem to think they are immune now from making bad decisions. Happening way too often IMO.

Are you been serious here????


It wasn't a free in the first place :mad:

amacachi

I remember once Maradona handled the ball. Sorry we are just reminiscing about well-known handball incidents aren't we?

citytillidie

Pighead wrote: »

Man City V Liverpool on the 21st of February is gonna be huge! SKY can justifiably hype this one up.

Not on Sky unless they change it at this stage. Game is 3pm kick off moved to Sunday as Liverpool are playing on Thursday night

Frisbee

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I am bringing in Henry because it was an equally blatant handball.IMO.

Blatant handball - yes

Equally blatant as stopping the ball going out of play with your hand then taking a second touch to bring it back onto your good foot - no

Spiritoftheseventies

OPENROAD wrote: »

Are you been serious here????


It wasn't a free in the first place :mad:

Gerrard free was dodgy. And he didnt do himself any favour with some of his antics tonight. But that handball was so obvious it just has to be brought up. You telling me if it had happened with united or Chelsea there wouldnt have been the same outcry?

Mr.Nice Guy

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I am bringing in Henry because it was an equally blatant handball. Not making excuses for liverpool. We were awful tonight. But that decision at the end was an outrage. Refs seem to think they are immune now from making bad decisions. Happening way too often IMO.

Yes years from now people will look back at the infamous Fabregas handball. I wonder how he's going to handle all those journalists at his home tomorrow wanting his reaction to the scandal. What will Blatter and Platini have to say? Can his reputation survive all this?

Jazzy

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I am bringing in Henry because it was an equally blatant handball. Not making excuses for liverpool. We were awful tonight. But that decision at the end was an outrage. Refs seem to think they are immune now from making bad decisions. Happening way too often IMO.

STOP SPAMMING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.


you orignally brought in henry as he was an ex-arsenal player and you were trying to make some sh1tty comparison to score points because liverpool didnt get any tonight.
f*cking pathetic bargain basement posting that doesnt need to be said or heard but alas, here we are.



my f**king kingdom to have redspider back

OPENROAD

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gerrard free was dodgy. And he didnt do himself any favour with some of his antics tonight. But that handball was so obvious it just has to be brought up. You telling me if it had happened with united or Chelsea there wouldnt have been the same outcry?

Would you like to take a stronger line on Gerrards antics?

noodler

Mr Alan wrote: »

oh god stop talking about Henrys handball, its embarrasing.

You're not wrong but everything seems to embarrass you!

citytillidie

OPENROAD wrote: »

Are you been serious here????


It wasn't a free in the first place :mad:

So its ok to push players to the ground?

It was given for Cesc pushing Kuyt to the floor.

And as said before Howard was awful

mayordenis

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gerrard free was dodgy. And he didnt do himself any favour with some of his antics tonight. But that handball was so obvious it just has to be brought up. You telling me if it had happened with united or Chelsea there wouldnt have been the same outcry?

I don't think there is much of an outcry, 1 person angry not equals an outcry.

We were poor, away to Arsenal, we left in a sloppy goal, that is the issue at hand, not the handball.

SDTimeout

OPENROAD wrote: »

Would you like to take a stronger line on Gerrards antics?

I was wondering that myself, diving and handballing are on par for fouls in the game of football. Curious as to what his take on gerrards antics tonight are. I expect them to be very similar to his views on cesc's handball

Spiritoftheseventies

OPENROAD wrote: »

Would you like to take a stronger line on Gerrards antics?

Gerrard's diving has been highlighted to death on these boards. But are we not allowed to discuss this handball incident. Do two wrongs make a right?

OPENROAD

Anyone live near the Spanish Embassy in Dublin, any Liverpool activity outside?

mayordenis

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gerrard's diving has been highlighted to death on these boards. But are we not allowed to discuss this handball incident. Do two wrongs make a right?

Sometimes 2 wrongs do make a right.

OPENROAD

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gerrard's diving has been highlighted to death on these boards. But are we not allowed to discuss this handball incident. Do two wrongs make a right?

Come on I'm interested to know what you think, people quick to call Henry "a cheat"!

Jazzy

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gerrard's diving has been highlighted to death on these boards. But are we not allowed to discuss this handball incident. Do two wrongs make a right?

yeah we didnt talk about handballs at all ever ever on this forum. you are again correct. what a top post

Spiritoftheseventies

mayordenis wrote: »

Sometimes 2 wrongs do make a right.

not tonight. Not tonight.

leninbenjamin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

flahavaj

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gerrard free was dodgy. And he didnt do himself any favour with some of his antics tonight. But that handball was so obvious it just has to be brought up. You telling me if it had happened with united or Chelsea there wouldnt have been the same outcry?

After the poll debacles(s) I thought you'd have had the sense to keep the head down, yet here you are making a show of yourself again. Awful awful few days from you bayview, possibly your most ever, which says a lot.

Frisbee

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gerrard's diving has been highlighted to death on these boards. But are we not allowed to discuss this handball incident. Do two wrongs make a right?

Comparing it to Henry is ludicrous though.

Spiritoftheseventies

flahavaj wrote: »

After the poll debacles(s) I thought you'd have had the sense to keep the head down, yet here you are making a show of yourself again. Awful awful few days from you bayview, possibly your most ever, which says a lot.

Not at all. If anyone else had made such an outcry about the handball would it be such an outcry. Again its posters arguing the poster not the post. And was today so awful. One or two posters bringing up stuff from yesterday.

~Rebel~

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

But are we not allowed to discuss this handball incident.

What's there to discuss? It happened. It was a bad call. Nobody says it wasn't a handball. That's life. We'll all just have to move on.

Jazzy

flahavaj wrote: »

After the poll debacles(s) I thought you'd have had the sense to keep the head down, yet here you are making a show of yourself again. Awful awful few days from you bayview, possibly your most ever, which says a lot.

fs flahavaj, please keep up to date with this weeks theme

flahavaj

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Not at all. If anyone else had made such an outcry about the handball would it be such an outcry. Again its posters arguing the poster not the post. And was today so awful. One or two posters bringing up stuff from yesterday.

In this case its hard to decide which is more worthy of derision though, the poster or the posts. Seriously you're making a fool of yourself. Stop.

Spiritoftheseventies

~Rebel~ wrote: »

What's there to discuss? It happened. It was a bad call. Nobody says it wasn't a handball. That's life. We'll all just have to move on.

have no problem moving on. But let no one say it wasnt a bad call. Which is what some posters clearly are. And Ive already said Gerrrard's antics were a bit off tonight. Arsenal deserved the points but that was down in part to are caution in first half. We should have taken the game to them more.

flahavaj

Jazzy wrote: »

fs flahavaj, please keep up to date with this weeks theme

Is it my spelling?:(

mayordenis

Moving on...

Any word from Rafa post-match? Not his best choices tonight, not awful by any means just would love to know why bringing on Babel(Earlier) and Riera(at all) wasn't considered.

OPENROAD

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

And Ive already said Gerrrard's antics were a bit off tonight. .

Would you not like to take stronger view than "a bit off" ?

copacetic

OPENROAD wrote: »

Well the way decisions have gone against us against Liverpool in the past, I will take this and as I said and most Liverpool fans seem to be missing, it was not a free in the first place

yes, it was. Fabregas pushed Kuyt and stuck his leg between his and tripped him.

Frisbee

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

have no problem moving on. But let no one say it wasnt a bad call. Which is what some posters clearly are.

I don't think anyone is saying it was a bad call.

It was an awful call, how the ref didn't see it I'll never know and it should have led to another free for Liverpool.

SDTimeout

OPENROAD wrote: »

Would you not like to take stronger view than "a bit off" ?

why open, are you suggesting a send him to the gallows approach ? :P

Spiritoftheseventies

OPENROAD wrote: »

Would you not like to take stronger view than "a bit off" ?

Like I said its been discussed to death at this stage. But handball was just Fabregas taking the piss. Thats what annoys me the most. leave it at that.

OPENROAD

copacetic wrote: »

yes, it was. Fabregas pushed Kuyt and stuck his leg between his and tripped him.

No it wasn't

OPENROAD

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Like I said its been discussed to death at this stage. But handball was just Fabregas taking the piss. Thats what annoys me the most. leave it at that.

You seem happy to take a strong line on other players, just giving you an opportunity to take a similar line on Gerrard

copacetic

OPENROAD wrote: »

No it wasn't

oh right, my mistake so.

Spiritoftheseventies

OPENROAD wrote: »

You seem happy to take a strong line on other players, just giving you an opportunity to take a similar line on Gerrard

Have already said Gerrard's antics were questionable tonight. No point discussing this any further.

citytillidie

copacetic wrote: »

yes, it was. Fabregas pushed Kuyt and stuck his leg between his and tripped him.

Shhhhhh cant correct him stuck into thinking it was Gerrards fall were he got right back up that the free kick was awarded for.

OPENROAD

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Have already said Gerrard's antics were questionable tonight. No point discussing this any further.

ah I see

OPENROAD

copacetic wrote: »

oh right, my mistake so.

Not to worry

Spiritoftheseventies

Frisbee wrote: »

I don't think anyone is saying it was a bad call.

It was an awful call, how the ref didn't see it I'll never know and it should have led to another free for Liverpool.

exactly. Ref awards another free and there is no problem.

Frisbee

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

exactly. Ref awards another free and there is no problem.

I'm in agreement with you on that.

But for the life of me I can't understand why you felt the need to bring Henry into it. That's my only problem.

K-9

K-9 wrote: »

Nah, said it last week on the pool thread. I wanted to be 3 points behind them come the City game.

Wanted 4 points from the last 2 games, but City losing at the weekend took the pressure of us.

The pressure is all on City. It's theirs to feck up.

3 points is far better than 6, with a game in hand.

PS. City have Stoke away before they play us. Not a gimme that they'll be 3 ahead either.

~Rebel~

OPENROAD wrote: »

No it wasn't

the free was clearly for the challenge on Kuyt. It was taken from where Kuyt was fouled, not where Gerrard pansied himself around, which was a good 5 meters right and 2 or 3 back. very different spots.

OPENROAD

~Rebel~ wrote: »

the free was clearly for the challenge on Kuyt. It was taken from where Kuyt was fouled, not where Gerrard pansied himself around, which was a good 5 meters right and 2 or 3 back. very different spots.

have to see it again but from my point of view neither were.

Spiritoftheseventies

Frisbee wrote: »

I'm in agreement with you on that.

But for the life of me I can't understand why you felt the need to bring Henry into it. That's my only problem.

because in the space of like three months we have had two very bad hand ball decisions that have gone totally un-noticed.
Refereeing is very poor at moment. Last night City player totally obstructed a bolton player inside penalty area and again nothing happens.
Seems to me decisions like these are happening way too often this season.

Frisbee

~Rebel~ wrote: »

the free was clearly for the challenge on Kuyt. It was taken from where Kuyt was fouled, not where Gerrard pansied himself around, which was a good 5 meters right and 2 or 3 back. very different spots.

This is what I thought as well, I don't think it was given for Gerrard. Sure when Fab (stupidly) got involved and threw the ball back he was throwing it back to where the free on Kuyt was.

OPENROAD

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

because in the space of like three months we have had two very bad hand ball decisions that have gone totally un-noticed.
Refereeing is very poor at moment. Last night City player totally obstructed a bolton player inside penalty area and again nothing happens.
Seems to me decisions like these are happening way too often this season.

Sometimes you get them sometimes you don't, you have got plenty in key matches.