EPL Team of the decade-forwards

JP Liz V1

Rooney or Henry

RandolphEsq

owen

+3 Michael Owen

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Rooney or Henry

rooney and henry are going in to poll. its a 4-4-2 formation. Boggles take note

Iago

owen

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

have we a second on Torres. Think he is the quickest over seas player ever to reach fifty goals.

to be honest that's irrelevant when looking at a "premier league player of the decade" if we were voting on most talented striker of the decade, then he'd be a good shout for it.

For this team, I think he's out of place.

Morzadec

owen

Said in another thread that Henry should be a shoe-in here. No real way of leaving him out although he may suffer some bias from the handball incident.

My other choice will probably go to Van Nistelrooy.

Morzadec

owen

Iago wrote: »

to be honest that's irrelevant when looking at a "premier league player of the decade" if we were voting on most talented striker of the decade, then he'd be a good shout for it.

For this team, I think he's out of place.

I think he's well worth a nomination though I probably won't be voting for him. He's definitely up there though

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

Morzadec wrote: »

I think he's well worth a nomination though I probably won't be voting for him. He's definitely up there though

done. that's torres in.

Iago

owen

Morzadec wrote: »

I think he's well worth a nomination though I probably won't be voting for him. He's definitely up there though

Without trying to be smart here, on what basis?

He played a total of 57 games in the decade in question, that's not even 2 full seasons out of 10.

Granted his goal per game ratio for that period was exceptional but it's just not enough to justify inclusion in a team of the decade poll.

If he is included it just makes a mockery of the whole thing to be honest.

Xavi6

Iago wrote: »

If he is included it just makes a mockery of the whole thing to be honest.

Well no point bucking the trend at this stage.

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

Iago wrote: »

Without trying to be smart here, on what basis?

He played a total of 57 games in the decade in question, that's not even 2 full seasons out of 10.

Granted his goal per game ratio for that period was exceptional but it's just not enough to justify inclusion in a team of the decade poll.

If he is included it just makes a mockery of the whole thing to be honest.

I see what your saying but injury kind of hampered his involvement last year. Okay to make this fair three nominations per player. Two so far for Torres. And so there is no repeat of yesterday will put up a final list later on in afternoon that posters and mod can put their names to before posting poll.

SlickRic

owen

Torres really should not be in it SOTS.

don't do it.

Owen, yes, is worth a nomination.

builttospill

owen

This is going to be another irrelevant poll. Torres and Arshavin? :eek:

Roy Keane in the CM thread??? LOL, the poll should be called Boardsies favourite players in the EPL from 1995-2004 and 2007-2010.

Morzadec

owen

Iago wrote: »

Without trying to be smart here, on what basis?

He played a total of 57 games in the decade in question, that's not even 2 full seasons out of 10.

Granted his goal per game ratio for that period was exceptional but it's just not enough to justify inclusion in a team of the decade poll.

If he is included it just makes a mockery of the whole thing to be honest.

Yeah fair point. I guess it comes down to how much we are accounting for time spent playing in the decade. For my votes I've been looking at it fairly literally and voting for the best in that decade, based on the criteria of ability and achievement.

I voted for Ronaldo and Viera and felt that the 'time argument' wasn't overly relevant for them. That said I do think there is some weight to the argument as it weighs heavily on the 'achievement' aspect of the vote. For Ronaldo and Viera they achieved more than enough in their years at their clubs (combined with their ability) to warrant my vote. For Torres the time argument has impacted more on his achievement as you pointed out, and he wouldn't get my vote but I still think he is worthy of a nomination.

Torres has played even less than these 2 I know. But I feel he is deserving of a nomination for 2 reasons.

1. I feel it's always better to have too many players on the poll than too little to stop people going 'Where's .........?'. (So I feel that players such as Hasselbaink, Keane and other outsiders are also worth a nomination.)

2. I feel that there is a decent argument that, of all the strikers of the decade's respective peaks, Torres is in the top 2. (Not saying he definitely is, just saying that he arguably is). So if we were to take the question 'Best 2 strikers of the decade' very literally, there would be a strong case for including him, let alone nominating him.

Hope this makes sense and isn't too repetitious, I'm in work and have had to serve about 20 customers in between writing this out!

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

slic ric Rule is any players gets three nomination he gets three. But if enough people put their name at bottom of this post ill take it as a sign not to put him in.

Super-Rush

I was going to re start this series of threads today(i've been sick lately) but seeing as SOTS is making a stones of it all on his own, i'll leave him to it.

Re Torres, no.

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

super-rush wrote: »

I was going to re start this series of threads today(i've been sick lately) but seeing as SOTS is making a stones of it all on his own, i'll leave him to it.

Re Torres, no.

to confirm arshavin not going in. Im reluctantly leaving torres out because some folks cant let go of yesterday. Its not relevant to today and im not wasting any more energy talking about other thread

SlickRic

owen

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Im reluctantly leaving torres out because some folks cant let go of yesterday.

it's nothing to do with that.

he hasn't played enough to warrant a nomination for the entire decade.

aidan24326

Henry would be the first name on the team sheet for me. Superb for Arsenal through a large chunk of this decade. 174 goals in 254 prem league games and probably Arsenal's best ever striker.

After that it's Begkamp, Van Nistelrooy or Shearer.

Just for comparison, Van Nist scored 95 goals in 150 prem lge games (and also had a fantastic record in the champs lge it must be said, 38 goals in 47 games)

Shearer bagged 283 goals in 559 prem lge games overall, for Southampton, Blackburn and Newcastle. Bearing in mind that none of those teams achieved any great success with the exception of Blackburn '95, it's a hell of a record too.

Bergkamp scored 87 goals in 316 league games for Arsenal, though as we know Bergkamp's game was about much more than just goals.

I'd go with Henry and Shearer.

Hard to leave out the brilliant Begkamp though, while Van Nist is more than worthy of inclusion too as his goalscoring record shows.

ShiverinEskimo

Henry

All those goals per game stats should be adjusted to the decade though.

Jordonvito

Henry

Berbatov

Xavi6

Mitch Connor

owen

Xavi6 wrote: »

this is the nomination thread Xavi, Poll thread comes later.:rolleyes::p

Jazzy

Heskey

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

yeah included Arshavin as he was included on this. In or out?
http://arsenal.theoffside.com/team-news/arsenals-all-decade-team-strikers.html

but viera was left out of the midfield...................................


how dies your brain come to these decisions?

C.Ronaldo should be on the list too

keane2097

God these Team poll threads are always a pile of wank.

Iago

owen

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

All those goals per game stats should be adjusted to the decade though.

If you're talking about mine, they already are.

leninbenjamin

Heskey

Jazzy wrote: »

but viera was left out of the midfield...................................


how dies your brain come to these decisions?

C.Ronaldo should be on the list too

talk about a 'Freudian slip'

K-9

owen

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

to confirm arshavin not going in. Im reluctantly leaving torres out because some folks cant let go of yesterday. Its not relevant to today and im not wasting any more energy talking about other thread

I'd have Torres in the nominations, solely because of his games to goals ratio, which is phenomenal.

K-9

owen

Jazzy wrote: »

but viera was left out of the midfield...................................


how dies your brain come to these decisions?

C.Ronaldo should be on the list too

Yeah, that would suit this fecking poll. 2 Ronaldos in the team of the Decade.

Jazzy

Heskey

K-9 wrote: »

Yeah, that would suit this fecking poll. 2 Ronaldos in the team of the Decade.

oh right, hes in the other one. didnt seem to be a midfielder from what i saw of him. is leo messi a midfielder too? gotta admit, 2 ronaldos would make it some team :pac:

Warper

owen

Henry has to be the best striker in the EPL over the past decade - top scorer in 4 different seasons.

CR 7

K-9 wrote: »

Yeah, that would suit this fecking poll. 2 Ronaldos in the team of the Decade.

Technically, i think if one more person nominates him, he'll have to be included in the poll.:pac:

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

Heres the list so. We ready to run with this folks
Shearer 168 apps 84 goals 42 assists
Henry 223 apps 157 goals 132 assists, one hand-pass
Hasselb 219 apps 93 goals 71 assists
Owen 209 apps 94 goals 30 assists
Keane 296 apps 109 goals 66 assists
Anelka 234 apps 77 goals 71 assists
Rooney 248 apps 101 goals 89 assists
RVN
Hasselbank

K-9

owen

Jazzy wrote: »

oh right, hes in the other one. didnt seem to be a midfielder from what i saw of him. is leo messi a midfielder too? gotta admit, 2 ronaldos would make it some team :pac:

True, some even argued Gerrard wasn't a midfielder for the decade.

The way this poll is going, he would be picked twice!

thorbarry

owen

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Heres the list so. We ready to run with this folks
Shearer 168 apps 84 goals 42 assists
Henry 223 apps 157 goals 132 assists
Hasselb 219 apps 93 goals 71 assists
Owen 209 apps 94 goals 30 assists
Keane 296 apps 109 goals 66 assists
Anelka 234 apps 77 goals 71 assists
Rooney 248 apps 101 goals 89 assists
RVN
Hasselbank
Owen

Great work Spiritoftheseventies

CR 7

K-9 wrote: »

True, some even argued Gerrard wasn't a midfielder for the decade.

The way this poll is going, he would be picked twice!

:D:D

I think I'm guilty of starting both. It worked out well though.:pac:

Jazzy

Heskey

K-9 wrote: »

True, some even argued Gerrard wasn't a midfielder for the decade.

The way this poll is going, he would be picked twice!

thats what happens when you get a n00b to make polls

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

Jazzy wrote: »

thats what happens when you get a n00b to make polls

yesterdays news jazzman. Poll goes up at six.

ShiverinEskimo

Henry

thorbarry wrote: »

Great work Spiritoftheseventies

Yea - he has Owen in twice.

Pepe LeFrits

owen

Van Nistelrooy - 219 apps, 150 goals.

Henry and the Horse.

Jazzy

Heskey

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

yesterdays news jazzman. Poll goes up at six.

am i wrong or something? i hear there is a bench too is that the 'just in case' if a liverpool player doesnt get on the team? did Andy Grays team have a bench? so many questions young bayviewclose......

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

Yea - he has Owen in twice.

corrected. Keep this up and ill go through every future post of yours with a fine toothcomb for above two. It wont be pretty.

Jazzy

Heskey

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

corrected. Keep this up and ill go through every future post of yours with a fine toothcomb for above two. It wont be pretty.

oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


playing rough. whatever you do though, dont create a poll on shivreneskimos posts, i dont think they are your niche

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

Jazzy wrote: »

oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


playing rough. whatever you do though, dont create a poll on shivreneskimos posts, i dont think they are your niche

Will leave the bench to you jazzman. Dont mess it up

K-9

owen

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Van Nistelrooy - 219 apps, 150 goals.

Henry and the Horse.

Think I'm veering towards them two as well, with Rooney just loosing out.

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

Okay folks poll is up. Went with drogs and Bergkamp myself.

GLaDOS

owen

Rooney, so good he can play twice

Anyway, I went for Henry and RVN, RVN i can accept debate, but I cannot understand why anyone would not pick Henry, unless they're being stupid about the handball

ShiverinEskimo

Henry

Rooney x 2. Jesus bayviewclose you suck at polls.

Spiritoftheseventies

Heskey

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

Rooney x 2. Jesus bayviewclose you suck at polls.

would have been worse if I left him out altogether. Guys have me so paranoid at this stage. Yes Eskimo the gloves are off now. I'll be coming after you for this. When and where i can't say

Reganio 2

No DiCanio and Robbie Keane and Heskey. Crap poll. Shove your poll up your hole.

flahavaj

Drogba

Voted for the Rooney brothers.:pac: