Race for 4th

matrim

It's definitely in Spurs hands, but if they (or city) slip up hopefully Villa can capsulise

In reality it's unlikely as it involves Spurs losing 2 and drawing (or losing) one and City losing against Villa and one other.

JPA

SuprSi wrote: »

Unless Villa score a lot of goals in those 3 games, it might not matter as if either Spurs or City get 70 points, the chances are they'll have a better goal difference and will get 4th.

Yes we know. A lot of assumptions have to happen for Villa like Spurs dropping points to Bolton or Burnley.

Helix

SuprSi wrote: »

Unless Villa score a lot of goals in those 3 games, it might not matter as if either Spurs or City get 70 points, the chances are they'll have a better goal difference and will get 4th.

yup, the likelihood is that spurs will get 70, but if they slip up against either bolton or burnley they might not

saying that, villa beating city is hardly a certainty lol

SuprSi

Manchester City

Yeah it's a crazy end to the season - any of 4 teams could realistically finish in 4th, it's just mad.

everdead.ie

So 35 games gone and it sits at

4 Spurs 64
5 City 63
6 Villa 61
7 Pool 59

I think we still have the edge and a lot could be decided by the result of the Villa City match Villa need to win it to have a chance at fourth and City need to win it to put the pressure on Spurs a 5 point gap Between Spurs and Liverpool that could be just too big for them to make up

karma_

Spurs

I think it's now Spurs to lose. If City don't get 3 points at Villa, then even if Spurs lose the City game they would be 4th, I'd expect them to win against Bolton & Burnley.

Helix

SuprSi wrote: »

Yeah it's a crazy end to the season - any of 4 teams could realistically finish in 4th, it's just mad.

no

realistically theres only 3 who can do it

the 4th team need a miracle, some teams to go into administration, and a meteor to hit somewhere in london

Bounty Hunter

okay Liverpool still have to play but imo they really should be out of this now so

Spurs lose vs Man Utd
City draw vs Arsenal
Villa win vs Brum

club----pts---played

Spurs----64---35
Villa

---

64----36
City

---

63----35

Remaining fixtures:

Spurs vs Bolton
Villa vs City
City vs Spurs
Villa vs Blackburn
Spurs vs Burnley
City vs West ham

Bounty Hunter

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Remaining fixtures:

Spurs vs Bolton spurs
Villa vs City draw
City vs Spurs city
Villa vs Blackburn villa
Spurs vs Burnley spurs
west hamv city city

.....

Which would mean:

Spurs 71
City 70
Villa 68

Helix

rarnes1 wrote: »

You forgot west ham v city city

Which would mean:

Spurs 71
City 70
Villa 68

maths fail

invinciblePRSTV

I'm calling it for City, they should have the beatings of Spurs and Villa at their place.

Helix

Helix wrote: »

maths fail

:pac:

What did I miss?

Helix

rarnes1 wrote: »

:pac:

What did I miss?

nothing actually, i made a balls of it... it was a self fulfilling prophecy of a post lol

SantryRed

Judging by City's past two performances there will be draws in their games against Villa and Spurs.

Spurs to get 4th.

Helix

Helix wrote: »

nothing actually, i made a balls of it... it was a self fulfilling prophecy of a post lol

actually no i was right initially, youve city to pick up 7 points, but youve also got them drawing with spurs and villa

the points tallies dont line up

youve spurs to get 7 points (beating bolton and burnley and drawing with city i assume)
villa to get 4 points (beating blackburn and drawing with city)
and city to get 7 points, which they can only do by winning 2 and drawing 1 of their remaining 3

SuprSi

Manchester City

What will happen if City & Spurs finish on the same points with the same goal difference?

Helix

SuprSi wrote: »

What will happen if City & Spurs finish on the same points with the same goal difference?

goes to goals for

Zonda999

Spurs

I know its a one match play off in a neutral venue if this happens between 1st and 2nd so i presume its the same in this case?

Edit, thats if they've scored the same amount of goals and all..

Helix

Zonda999 wrote: »

I know its a one match play off in a neutral venue if this happens between 1st and 2nd so i presume its the same in this case?

nah its goals for afaik, the play off is only if everything is the same

could be wrong tho

Zonda999

Spurs

Nah, forgot about that, duly edited!

SuprSi

Manchester City

Helix wrote: »

goes to goals for

Bugger, we'll need to put quite a few past Bolton and Burnley then!

everdead.ie

Bolton is going to be a very difficult game our bogey team we will need to show a lot of guts and gile to beat them a draw for villa and city would be perfect though

everdead.ie

So 2-3 Games Left who's going to take fourth?

Who would you like to take fourth?
Spurs 35 played 64 points 1.83ppg max 73
Villa 36 played 64 points 1.78ppg max 70
City 35 played 63 points 1.8 ppg max 72
Pool 36 played 62 points 1.72ppg max 68

---

Spurs

---

Villa

---

City

---

Pool
Sat 1---Bolton(H)

---

City(A)

---

Villa(H)

---

Sun 2

---

Chelsea(H)
Wed 5--City(A)

---

Spurs(H)

---

Sun 9--Burnley(A)

---

Blackburn(H)----WestHam(A)--Hull(A)
I Reckon Villa must win at City this weekend to get it.
City must take at least 4 points from there next two games with a win against spurs
Spurs must win against Burnley and Bolton
Liverpool have to hope for all the other teams to draw against each other and loose another game each

Spiritoftheseventies

Manchester City

everdead.ie wrote: »

So 2-3 Games Left who's going to take fourth?

Who would you like to take fourth?
Spurs 35 played 64 points 1.83ppg max 73
Villa 36 played 64 points 1.78ppg max 70
City 35 played 63 points 1.8 ppg max 72
Pool 36 played 62 points 1.72ppg max 68

---

Spurs

---

Villa

---

City

---

Pool
Sat 1---Bolton(H)

---

City(A)

---

Villa(H)

---

Sun 2

---

Chelsea(H)
Wed 5--City(A)

---

Spurs(H)

---

Sun 9--Burnley(A)

---

Blackburn(H)----WestHam(A)--Hull(A)
I Reckon Villa must win at City this weekend to get it.
City must take at least 4 points from there next two games with a win against spurs
Spurs must win against Burnley and Bolton
Liverpool have to hope for all the other teams to draw against each other and loose another game each

City trying to get Joe Hart back from Birmingham. Other clubs staying silent for the moment. Could be an interesting development there

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8644269.stm

K-9

Manchester City

everdead.ie wrote: »

So 2-3 Games Left who's going to take fourth?

Who would you like to take fourth?
Spurs 35 played 64 points 1.83ppg max 73
Villa 36 played 64 points 1.78ppg max 70
City 35 played 63 points 1.8 ppg max 72
Pool 36 played 62 points 1.72ppg max 68

---

Spurs

---

Villa

---

City

---

Pool
Sat 1---Bolton(H)

---

City(A)

---

Villa(H)

---

Sun 2

---

Chelsea(H)
Wed 5--City(A)

---

Spurs(H)

---

Sun 9--Burnley(A)

---

Blackburn(H)----WestHam(A)--Hull(A)
I Reckon Villa must win at City this weekend to get it.
City must take at least 4 points from there next two games with a win against spurs
Spurs must win against Burnley and Bolton
Liverpool have to hope for all the other teams to draw against each other and loose another game each

To me Villa have to win at City as their goal difference is considerably worse than the rest. Pool obviously have to win both their games too.

ctrl-alt-delete

Spurs

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

City trying to get Joe Hart back from Birmingham. Other clubs staying silent for the moment. Could be an interesting development there

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8644269.stm

The Hart move was blocked, and rightly so. They have signed Fulop who has been excellent this season for Sunderland,

Don't think it should have been allowed either though, they have 9 keepers on their books according to SkySports, it can't really be described as an emergency loan, like what it has been put through as.

The Muppet

Spurs are now favourites in my book though having Spurs V City and Villa V City still to play it is very much still up for grabs. Unless those two games are draws Liverpool have little chance of getting it even if they win their last two games which is unlikely.

Spiritoftheseventies

Manchester City

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

The Hart move was blocked, and rightly so. They have signed Fulop who has been excellent this season for Sunderland,

Don't think it should have been allowed either though, they have 9 keepers on their books according to SkySports, it can't really be described as an emergency loan, like what it has been put through as.

Nine Keepers. How many from the reserve team up?

ctrl-alt-delete

Spurs

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Nine Keepers. How many from the reserve team up?

I don't know, i'm just going on the number Sky Sports were reporting.

If Man City can loan out Hart because he is too good to be sitting on the bench, they should have adequate cover remaining, they should make sure they have adequate cover remaining to cover injuries.

Surely one of the guys is good enough to step between the posts, if they were not fighting for 4th i don't think an "emergency" loan would have been called in, they would have blooded one of the other guys. For that reason i view it as an advantage to them outside of a transfer window and i don't agree with it.

SlickRic

man, people hate Spurs.

20 people thought they'd ever get 4th.

Villa with more votes?

we all could end up looking a bit stupid.

herbieflowers

SlickRic wrote: »

we all could end up looking a bit stupid.

Soccer forum posters potentially looking stupid?! Well, I never!

flahavaj

Manchester City

SlickRic wrote: »

man, people hate Spurs.

20 people thought they'd ever get 4th.

Villa with more votes?

we all could end up looking a bit stupid.

I think at the time the vote was taken they weren't in that favourable a position. But yeah, looks like we could all be eating our words in a couple of weeks.

Prufrock

Spurs

Down to the wire. Liverpool will have to beat Chelsea to have any chance. Villa still there. Too tough to call.

everdead.ie

SlickRic wrote: »

man, people hate Spurs.

20 people thought they'd ever get 4th.

Villa with more votes?

we all could end up looking a bit stupid.

I think we had just lost to wolves away the poll in ssc had only 2 people that thought we'd get it after that dreadful performance and I didn't vote before the deadline I ment to though

_blank_

herbieflowers wrote: »

Soccer forum posters potentially looking stupid?! Well, I never!

The sheer volume of people who voted for Liverpool is the main illustration of this point. even back when the poll was created, it was obvious that they wouldn't get near 4th.

flahavaj

Manchester City

Des wrote: »

The sheer volume of people who voted for Liverpool is the main illustration of this point. even back when the poll was created, it was obvious that they wouldn't get near 4th.

I've been as vocal as anyone in thinking they'd get 4th.

My confidence was based on my opinion of the challengers rather than any great faith in Liverpool tbh.

I honestly thought it'd be the same old story with Spurs and they'd fall away. They've shocked me with their staying power. I thought the three games against the top three would kill them, but they've done brilliantly.

City I just thought would make a balls of it 'cos they're City and thats what they do.

And I never rated Villa as good enough for the CL.

I thought Pool would get their act together wnough to make the CL like they have done for the past few years and in Torres had a senstionla player who could fire them into it almost singlehandedly.

Not for the first time and certainly not the last it looks I was wrong on a number of scores. Of course its not over yet....:pac:

Bounty Hunter

flahavaj wrote: »

I've been as vocal as anyone in thinking they'd get 4th.

My confidence was based on my opinion of the challengers rather than any great faith in Liverpool tbh.

I honestly thought it'd be the same old story with Spurs and they'd fall away. They've shocked me with their staying power. I thought the three games against the top three would kill them, but they've done brilliantly.

City I just thought would make a balls of it 'cos they're City and thats what they do.

And I never rated Villa as good enough for the CL.

I thought Pool would get their act together wnough to make the CL like they have done for the past few years and in Torres had a senstionla player who could fire them into it almost singlehandedly.

Not for the first time and certainly not the last it looks I was wrong on a number of scores. Of course its not over yet....:pac:

great post

remember constantley calling you (and others) on the Villa Liverpool thing too saying that if people considerd Villa out of the race then surely you should Liverpool and yet so many not only said they were in it but still favourites, tbh the way this season has gone Liverpool are lucky that Pompey were refused entry to Europe as otherwise they might not have even made the Europa, which has shocked me.

brayblue24

......and then there were two......:D

Paul Tergat

The midweek game is set up so nicely.

Bounty Hunter

yep two horse race now, City vs Spurs should decide all if we get a winner

tony1kenobi

Just heard Redknapp there say Gomes hurt his groin and he only has 4 more keepers on the books so he'll ask the FA if he can get 2 more in on loan....legend.

KittyeeTrix

Spurs

tony1kenobi wrote: »

Just heard Redknapp there say Gomes hurt his groin and he only has 4 more keepers on the books so he'll ask the FA if he can get 2 more in on loan....legend.

I'm sure we have a spare one now that we got Fulop, maybe they can ask for Nielson;)

x in the city

Manchester City

Des wrote: »

The sheer volume of people who voted for Liverpool is the main illustration of this point. even back when the poll was created, it was obvious that they wouldn't get near 4th.

Liverpool supporters are owners of the worlds sexiest rose tinted glasses, of course they will get 4th.


unless its mathematically mathematically mathematiciallically lost....:cool::cool:

K-9

Manchester City

x in the city wrote: »

Liverpool supporters are owners of the worlds sexiest rose tinted glasses, of course they will get 4th.


unless its mathematically mathematically mathematiciallically lost....:cool::cool:

By Liverpool you mean the city? The rose tinted glasses seems to be a Liverpudlian thing going from posts from March.

PHB

Manchester City

This Wednesday tie could be so much damm fun, a real title decider vibe to it already!

Prufrock

Spurs

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

yep two horse race now, City vs Spurs should decide all if we get a winner

Then it'll be a draw and go to the last day of the season.

mike65

Arsenal are back in this race!

L'prof

Manchester City

mike65 wrote: »

Arsenal are back in this race!

Possible, but no!

Mr Alan

Manchester City

who's arsenals last game against?

Frisbee

Manchester City

Mr Alan wrote: »

who's arsenals last game against?

Fulham, hopefully they'll rest players.